Queen music download : ANNOUNCE: Shizuoka 1975 - stark remaster

Happy valentines day Starky! And thanks for this torrent! Will download and seed for eons.
Enjoyed your other remasters...I have high expectations for this one!

Thank you very much.

Thank you for your work Stark!!

Haha I know you can handle it.
By the way, as an addendum to my original post
"one response represents 10,000 people"

thanks for the show .
you wrote:
25 downloads and 1 thank you. Is that a record?
i'm afraid it's not,a record is a round piece of vinyl with a hole in the middle.seriously tho', i can understand your annoyance.

Thank you, Stark. I really enjoyed your upload of Drammen 1982 and it's one of the most interesting bootlegs I can recall. I remember some songs of Brussel 1984 and Stockholm 82, but I don't remember whether you did any work on them as you did on Drammen 1982.

Well, that's just to say that I enjoyed your remastering and wanna say thank you for sharing and working on it.

I think I have to start burning cds, I guess...I can't rely on my memory and there are times I want to listen to the songs again. That's a whole different story, though.

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thanks a lot!

I like your remasters, so I'm gonna try this one.
Thanks for sharing

Well you already know I'm a big fan of your remasters so naturally this is hitting my download queue - can't wait to check it out! Thanks!

Thanks a lot.

Beautiful stuff... thanks, Stark!

I lost my copy because on a bad disc and now I've got a remaster instead :-)
Thank you very much.

Comparing this with the original Seven seas of Tsumagoi silver release, why do I have the feeling that this "remaster" sounds a bit lower in terms of volume?

Still thanks a lot for sharing your work, stark and I do apreciatte your effort in working at this.

Cheers.

stark's remasters are always quieter then the original bootlegs

Glad someone's listening. :) It IS lower in volume, as pittrek says. 'Don't mistake something more for something better..'

Digital audio works 'in reverse' - in that the loudest possible level is 0dB, and the lowest is -96dB (on a 16-bit CD, anyway). These levels have nothing to do with the volume of your stereo system, but rather how the loud the track is recorded onto the CD (you must have noticed that hip-hop CDs generally play louder than records like 'Harvest', or 'Dark Side Of The Moon').

So. Imagine you're listening at a comfortable volume and the music on the CD is, unknown to you, averaging around -30dB. A loud audio event occurs (band suddenly comes in/explosion etc) which peaks briefly at 0dB. Allowing for the fact that your speakers have exploded, the event would sound incredibly 'real' (in the 'lifelike' sense). This example gives what we call a Peak-To-Average Ratio (similar to dynamic range) of 30dB, which is huge. Too huge, in fact, for the genre and the compact disc medium.

Had the music been averaging -5dB with the loud event peaking at 0dB (giving a 5dB Peak-To-Average Ratio , which is very small indeed), you would not even have blinked (and think how hard it is not to blink when someone's hitting a snare drum next to you - it's a reflex). This is not good: our ears expect quiet sounds to be quiet and loud sounds to be loud (in relation to one another); if they're not, even if it's subconscious, we know something's 'wrong' or at least unnatural.

By correcting the equalisation of a recording, it is possible to increase the Peak-To-Average Ratio, thus making the quiet parts quieter and the loud parts louder (*in relation to one another*), resulting in a more 'real' or natural sound. It is this large Ratio that gives good recordings their depth, richness, clarity and of course, dynamic range. And this is why my remasters sound quieter than their source.

For a valid comparison between a source and its remaster, you MUST listen to them at the same volume, otherwise the loudest one always sounds better. Generally the easiest way to do this is to match the vocal levels. I've attached a link to a section from the Liverpool '73 gig I'm working on at the moment. The files are as follows:

1. Source louder than remaster. Source sounds better.
2. Remaster louder than source. Remaster sounds better.
3. Source and remaster levels matched. Remaster sounds better? You decide.

The source comes first in each example.

http://www.mediafire.com/?8bl03bz3ukv

I hope that explains it - forgive me if I've patronised you, but I've tried to explain it simply and in a way that even I would understand!

Nice two posts !

stark, thanks for the explanation and thanks for all your efforts!

^ what he said.



Your work on Golders Green 73, Shizuoka 75, and Tokyo 5-1-75 was brilliant, but on this one, I honestly can't tell the difference.

Thanks a lot for the detailed description of your work =)

Really appreciate that.

Now, trying to resume my point of view (and most of all, trying to make sense in it) on the "remastering" work you've done, I gotta say, in first place, that it's very well done.

Secondly, I gotta say that I'm aware of all the technical mumbo-jumbo concerning to remastering these audience recordings, stopping especially at that fact: that you cannot improve a lot what it's there.
You don't have to many "colors" or "significant and defined peaks" to work with, like in a soundboard recording... basically the improvement it's there and I can hear it but it doesn't add too much to the recording as in a soundboard recording.
I use to do some remastering on some of my recordings as well but I don't share them here since the average Queenzoner can't notice the difference or just don't give a fuck about the effort & work you put on remastering/improving an audience recording of this kind, and just compulsively download what they see.

Don't take my comment as a bashing to your work or intention to share your work with the rest of us.
Just my two cents about remastering audience recordings of this kind as I said before.

Keep up the hard work & I do really appreciate it!


Cheers =)

Kind words - thank you. But I *think* we'll have to agree to differ on your point about not being able to improve it a lot. I'm not familiar with your terminology (s.d.peaks?), but this is about frequency manipulation, not transients or timbre, and I think the results are a Significant (capital S) improvement.

If you mean that audience recordings can't be cleaned up to soundboard quality, then no, it can't be turned into something it never was, which is why I wouldn't claim to have improved the quality. Or do you mean that better recordings can be more successfully restored? I think I'm lost..

You've actually piqued my curiosity - I guess you're saying you don't think it's worth it (and I see no offence is meant) - anyone else got any thoughts?

from Sir GH's site

front:
http://queenlive.ca/queen/art/CD/75-04-29_Shizuoka_SweetEncore_a.jpg

back:
http://queenlive.ca/queen/art/CD/75-04-29_Shizuoka_SweetEncore_b.jpg

Thanks for another remaster.
And great description about your work. it makes us more aware of things.

Take care

Tried to download Liar but ended up with Lap of the Gods, so I've cut the two sources together to give a comparison. Starts off with the original then switches to the remaster and back again.

Thanks for the comment, Sir GH; obviously I'd rather hear that you loved it, but honesty is the next best thing. :) and at least it means we're not all just accepting these 'remasters' at face value. Let me know your thoughts?

http://www.mediafire.com/?mnmdv2jmi64

Thanks for trying but that artwork (I know you didn't made those) it really sucks arse so no point to modify 'em. Nuff with the available ones plus this version you worked on it's very small and you won't get a decent print of it.

;-)

Stark, are you there?

As I posted in the Glasgow 77 topic, here's a sample of my two-source mix of that show:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O7D7QVP0

Perhaps you could work your magic on it...?

Excellent... looking forward to it.

Exactly... two tape generations can be a world of difference.



It did!



Fully agree. So, if you're up for the task, I'll send you the two raw sources, and you can do the cross-fades in KYA and Jailhouse Rock?

The sample sounds brilliant. Can you send me an email, and we can go from there? I lost your email address in my hard drive crash!

Please Seed!

Please seed!

You have one! Good download :)