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Band : Queen
Venue : Music Hall, Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Date : 30. January 1976
Lineage : Master Cassette > Nakamichi CR-3A cassette deck with azimuth correction > M-Audio Firewire Audiophile 2496 > CDWAV 24-bit/96-KHz wav files > Goldwave (normalizing and crossfades) > CDWAV (track breaks) > FLAC Frontend (FLAC 8) > WAV > Goldwave (speed correction) > WAV

The audio on this one comes from the Dan Lampinski master tape, for more details check :
http://www.queenlive.ca/queen/76-01-30.htm


The video is only 1 static picture, simply because no video exists ! The important thing is the sound :)

Speed correction & quick authoring : SirGH (Thanks and sorry it took so long)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 1:09:00 PM
lemme be the first to say THANKS PETE!!
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 1:14:00 PM


Alex Solan. wrote:

lemme be the first to say THANKS PETE!!

Let me be the first to ask you for a cover :)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 1:55:00 PM
Thanks for improving an already great share!!! :)
Posted by Ginger01user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 1:59:00 PM


Ginger01 wrote:

Thanks for improving an already great share!!! :)

Actually this is SirGH's work, so all the "thank you " comments should be targeted in his way :)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 2:10:00 PM


pittrek wrote:



 



Ginger01 wrote:



Thanks for improving an already great share!!! :)


Actually this is SirGH's work, so all the "thank you " comments should be targeted in his way :)






Ok - I correct myself - Thank you, Sir Bob, for all your work in improving this, and thank you, Pittrek, for sharing it - I don't need to say how much your efforts are appreciated!! :))
Posted by Ginger01user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 2:17:00 PM


pittrek wrote:







Alex Solan. wrote:



lemme be the first to say THANKS PETE!!


Let me be the first to ask you for a cover :)




Lemme be the first to say it's gonna be my pleasure to do it ;-)
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 2:20:00 PM
You've got a PM, pal !
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 3:41:00 PM


Alex Solan. wrote:


You've got a PM, pal !

Not yet
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 3:42:00 PM


pittrek wrote:







Alex Solan. wrote:




You've got a PM, pal !


Not yet




Geez, stupid Queenzone bugs!! I've sent it... I'll try again
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 3:51:00 PM


Alex Solan. wrote:







pittrek wrote:



















Alex Solan. wrote:







You've got a PM, pal !






Not yet



Geez, stupid Queenzone bugs!! I've sent it... I'll try again


Received and answered.

To all others - it's sleeping time for me & my PC. I'llcontinue seeding tomorrow
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 4:05:00 PM
Thank you Bobbie for this wonderful DVD-audio version! And of course Pittrek for the upload!
I heard the Boston recording already like 100 times and now I think that I need to listen to it again 100 times :-)) 
What an upgrade and what a recording!
Posted by Harry_queenbootlegsuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 5:29:00 PM
I almost forgot to thank Bob for this wonderful job!

Grazie mille!!
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/11/2009 5:50:00 PM
Thank you.
Posted by PBBuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 3:58:00 AM
wow !! many thanks, Bob and Peter !! this is great !

cheers
Vali
Posted by Valiuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 6:48:00 AM
Thank You for sharing best possible version of such important recording!!

   I have a question about chance to burn this project into music CD
Posted by pogor1user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 7:33:00 AM
Thanks for sharing :)
Posted by Rickuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 9:24:00 AM


pogor1 wrote:


  Thank You for sharing best possible version of such important recording!!

   I have a question about chance to burn this project into music CD
   �


Unfortunately not. The CDDA specification requires 16bit / 44.1kHz wave files, this DVD has 32bit/96kHz wave. If you want to listen to it on CD, download the 16b/44.1kHz flac files which were also shared here
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 11:33:00 AM


pittrek wrote:

Unfortunately not. The CDDA specification requires 16bit / 44.1kHz wave files, this DVD has 32bit/96kHz wave.


I thought it was 24?

Either way, converting it down to 16 bit kind of defeats the purpose of using DVD-A, unless someone wants the speed corrected version and doesn't mind the quality reduction.  You definitely do hear digital artifacts at 16 bit, as the recording is so good to begin with.
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 12:27:00 PM


Sir GH wrote:







pittrek wrote:



Unfortunately not. The CDDA specification requires 16bit / 44.1kHz wave files, this DVD has 32bit/96kHz wave.



I thought it was 24?

Either way, converting it down to 16 bit kind of defeats the purpose of using DVD-A, unless someone wants the speed corrected version and doesn't mind the quality reduction.  You definitely do hear digital artifacts at 16 bit, as the recording is so good to begin with.

Cool Edit Pro claims it's 32/96, I haven't checked it in anything else
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 12:33:00 PM
thanks for your job!
Posted by Hitmanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 12:35:00 PM


Vali wrote:


wow !! many thanks, Bob and Peter !! this is great !

cheers
Vali


Hey amigo! you've got a PM!
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 12:52:00 PM


pittrek wrote:







Sir GH wrote:



















pittrek wrote:







Unfortunately not. The CDDA specification requires 16bit / 44.1kHz wave files, this DVD has 32bit/96kHz wave.






I thought it was 24?

Either way, converting it down to 16 bit kind of defeats the purpose of using DVD-A, unless someone wants the speed corrected version and doesn't mind the quality reduction.  You definitely do hear digital artifacts at 16 bit, as the recording is so good to begin with.

Cool Edit Pro claims it's 32/96, I haven't checked it in anything else

That's interesting - the original shares were written up as 16bit and 24bit. Can I ask a stupid quesiton? Why author this as a DVD-A, why not just share the remastered audio files? Does DVD-A offer something extra?
Posted by TimBHMuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 6:24:00 PM
I burned this to DVD-A basically so that I could listen to it on my stereo.  Computer speakers just don't do this recording justice.
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/12/2009 9:38:00 PM
Thank you for your kindness in sharing this with us.
Posted by Graeme Arnottuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 1:29:00 AM
Is this the correct setlist?

Disc 1:
1. Bohemian Rhapsody
2. Ogre Battle
3. Sweet Lady
4. White Queen (As It Began)
5. Flick of the Wrist
6. Bohemian Rhapsody (continued)
7. Killer Queen
8. The March of the Black Queen
9. Bohemian Rhapsody (conclusion)
10. Bring Back That Leroy Brown
11. Brighton Rock
12. Guitar solo
13. Son and Daughter
14. The Prophet’s Song
15. Stone Cold Crazy
16. Doing All Right
Disc 2
1. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon
2. Keep Yourself Alive
3. Seven Seas of Rhye
4. Liar
5. In the Lap of the Gods…Revisited
6. Now I’m Here
7. Big Spender/Jailhouse Rock/Be-Bop-a-Lula/God Save the Queen
Posted by tgunn2760user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 1:41:00 AM
Great! A big thank-you to everybody involved!!
Posted by Ramiuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 3:46:00 AM


pittrek wrote:







pogor1 wrote:




  Thank You for sharing best possible version of such important recording!!

   I have a question about chance to burn this project into music CD
   �



Unfortunately not. The CDDA specification requires 16bit / 44.1kHz wave files, this DVD has 32bit/96kHz wave. If you want to listen to it on CD, download the 16b/44.1kHz flac files which were also shared here

Just checked the official DVD-A spec - it only supports a maximum bitrate of 24 bit so as that's what the original files were encoded at, I'm guessing that's what's on the disc.
Posted by TimBHMuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 4:02:00 AM


Sir GH wrote:

I burned this to DVD-A basically so that I could listen to it on my stereo.  Computer speakers just don't do this recording justice.

Ah I see. So I'm assuming then that the DVD-A is encoded as LPCM stereo or is it lossless PPCM?
Posted by TimBHMuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 4:02:00 AM


TimBHM wrote:







pittrek wrote:



















pogor1 wrote:







  Thank You for sharing best possible version of such important recording!!

   I have a question about chance to burn this project into music CD
   �







Unfortunately not. The CDDA specification requires 16bit / 44.1kHz wave files, this DVD has 32bit/96kHz wave. If you want to listen to it on CD, download the 16b/44.1kHz flac files which were also shared here

Just checked the official DVD-A spec - it only supports a maximum bitrate of 24 bit so as that's what the original files were encoded at, I'm guessing that's what's on the disc.


Strange. I don't understand why CEP claims it's 32 bit
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 7:03:00 AM






TimBHM wrote:



















Sir GH wrote:







I burned this to DVD-A basically so that I could listen to it on my stereo.  Computer speakers just don't do this recording justice.






Ah I see. So I'm assuming then that the DVD-A is encoded as LPCM stereo or is it lossless PPCM?


Lossless PCM all the way.  There's a reason why 85 minutes of audio is over 3 Gb :-)

Here's the setlist for Tgunn:

Bohemian Rhapsody (tape & rock part), Ogre Battle, Sweet Lady, White Queen, Flick Of The Wrist, Bohemian Rhapsody (verses), Killer Queen, The March Of The Black Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody (reprise), Bring Back That Leroy Brown, Brighton Rock, Son And Daughter, The Prophet's Song, Stone Cold Crazy, Doing All Right, Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon, Keep Yourself Alive, Seven Seas Of Rhye, Liar, In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited, Now I'm Here, Big Spender, Jailhouse Rock, God Save The Queen
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 10:22:00 AM
Thanks for this upgrade, I'm looking forward to hearing it on a high quality system.
Anyone want to buy me one....
Posted by Marknowuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 10:59:00 AM
THANKS!!!!

judging by the files in uTorrent window, this is not a DVD-A.

This is a DVD-V (video)...excellent, cause I don't have DVD-A player
Posted by goauser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 3:06:00 PM


goa wrote:

THANKS!!!!

judging by the files in uTorrent window, this is not a DVD-A.

This is a DVD-V (video)...excellent, cause I don't have DVD-A player

That's correct. that's why I called it "audio DVD" instead of "DVD-Audio" :)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 3:37:00 PM
Thank you very much !
Posted by Masahikouser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 6:02:00 PM
Thanks a lot Peter for the upload and Bob for your great job.

There a while I didn't post on QZ due to a removal in Paris but I'll try to be forgiven soon (if I find something which haven't been uploaded)
Posted by daffy_the_duckuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 8:10:00 PM
Thanks Bob,

I will grab this, it "sounds" great. I almost said it "looks good".
Posted by tgunn2760user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 10:12:00 PM


daffy_the_duck wrote:

There a while I didn't post on QZ due to a removal in Paris but I'll try to be forgiven soon (if I find something which haven't been uploaded)



I don't understand this part...
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/13/2009 11:03:00 PM


Alex Solan. wrote:







daffy_the_duck wrote:



There a while I didn't post on QZ due to a removal in Paris but I'll try to be forgiven soon (if I find something which haven't been uploaded)




I don't understand this part...






Looks like he used an online translation tool.

I didn't post to QZ for a while because I was sent  to Paris, but hope to compensate by finding
somehing that hasn't been shared before?

My guess anyway.
Posted by tgunn2760user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 9:10:00 AM
just started downloading,thankyou very much for this.
Posted by kevukukuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 10:49:00 AM
I got a feeling that he is talking about the new stupid French law, they have now the right to "unplug" you if they catch you downloading illegal material :)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 10:50:00 AM


pittrek wrote:

I got a feeling that he is talking about the new stupid French law, they have now the right to "unplug" you if they catch you downloading illegal material :)


Oh my! yeah that fucking stupid law! it shouldn't apply for bootlegs like this one but I guess stupid laws make no difference between free fan stuff and legal downloads...
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 3:42:00 PM
Is this being seeded? It fluctuates constantly.
Posted by Rickuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 3:42:00 PM


Rick wrote:

Is this being seeded? It fluctuates constantly.


Yes, it is. Unfortunately only afternoons since I'm at work during workdays. But many people 67% now, so I guess on Friday the first people should complete
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 4:02:00 PM
Thanks, Peter. So I don't have to worry about my connection then :-)
Posted by Rickuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 4:16:00 PM


tgunn2760 wrote:







Alex Solan. wrote:



















daffy_the_duck wrote:







There a while I didn't post on QZ due to a removal in Paris but I'll try to be forgiven soon (if I find something which haven't been uploaded)







I don't understand this part...






Looks like he used an online translation tool.

I didn't post to QZ for a while because I was sent  to Paris, but hope to compensate by finding
somehing that hasn't been shared before?

My guess anyway.






Yes my bad!!!

Obviously my english at 3 AM wasn't very great...
Posted by daffy_the_duckuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 4:22:00 PM
Where is the artwork for this?

Thanks to whoever made it.

A question for Pittrek:

Could you have made a slide show of this?
Posted by tgunn2760user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 10:48:00 PM
I wish I could make artwork for this but I can't find decent pics to do it...
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/14/2009 11:00:00 PM


tgunn2760 wrote:

Where is the artwork for this?

Thanks to whoever made it.

A question for Pittrek:

Could you have made a slide show of this?

There are not enough pics for it. I remember when I tried to do something similar for Rainbow - the result was terribly boring
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/15/2009 2:21:00 AM


Rick wrote:

Thanks, Peter. So I don't have to worry about my connection then :-)

No no :) However I don't understand why it goes so slowly, the last torrent went about 100kBps.

Also I don't want to let my computer on when I'm not at home, since one of my earlier computers exploded :)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/15/2009 2:28:00 AM






Alex Solan. wrote:




I wish I could make artwork for this but I can't find decent pics to do it...

but the pics could be of any date of that year...I found amazing the last one you made for Emperors of Japan!!!
Posted by goauser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/15/2009 1:50:00 PM
OK guys, 41 seeders :-) Now it should go pretty fast and stable
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/15/2009 3:09:00 PM


goa wrote:















Alex Solan. wrote:







I wish I could make artwork for this but I can't find decent pics to do it...





but the pics could be of any date of that year...I found amazing the last one you made for Emperors of Japan!!!








I agree...or simply logos of Queen.
Posted by tgunn2760user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/15/2009 4:31:00 PM


goa wrote:















Alex Solan. wrote:







I wish I could make artwork for this but I can't find decent pics to do it...





but the pics could be of any date of that year...I found amazing the last one you made for Emperors of Japan!!!





Thanks for your comments :)

The pics I used for the Emperors of Japan artwork are actually from that night, as all the pics I use for my artwork, I always try to use pics from that especific venue... I'll keep searching for pics from that night at the Music Hall.

Unfortunately, the pics maybe Vali took to do his artwork from this site http://www.rockrollphoto.com/gallery.php?artist=30&location=Boston+Music+Hall are all watermarked now (and they have low resolution)

Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/15/2009 4:33:00 PM


tgunn2760 wrote:







goa wrote:



































Alex Solan. wrote:















I wish I could make artwork for this but I can't find decent pics to do it...













but the pics could be of any date of that year...I found amazing the last one you made for Emperors of Japan!!!




I agree...or simply logos of Queen.




hehe, I think artwork made with no pics at all it'd look boring, don't ya think? :P

I'll give it a go removing a couple of watermarks and stuff...
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/15/2009 4:35:00 PM
Alex, didn´t you read my PM ?

I´ve checked it and yes, I used the same pics from that same site for my artwork ... had to remove the copyright marks manually and apply additional beauty treatment here and there .... I can send you  my edited pics if you wanna give ´em a try, so you can avoid removing the copyright marks, wich is a long and boring task !
Posted by Valiuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/15/2009 6:38:00 PM


Vali wrote:


Alex, didn´t you read my PM ?

I´ve checked it and yes, I used the same pics from that same site for my artwork ... had to remove the copyright marks manually and apply additional beauty treatment here and there .... I can send you  my edited pics if you wanna give ´em a try, so you can avoid removing the copyright marks, wich is a long and boring task !


oh my! I didn't get your PM Marc! fucking QZ PMs! jaja
it happened the same to me when I tried to PM pittrek and he didn't get my message :@

I thought you've downloaded the pics without those marks! such a boring work as you said! you've done a wonderful job my friend and yes, I'd be really grateful if you could provide me of those pics you've edited so I can do some artwork for the audio share and this new one ;-)

Muchas gracias amigo!!

alex.solan@queenzone.com
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/15/2009 7:13:00 PM
Hi mates!, sorry if my English isn’t fine…
 
This is a GREAT SHARE !!!!
 
Thanks VERY MUCH to Bob for the work on this gem !!!!!
Thanks VERY MUCH to pittrek for the share of this gem !!!!!
 
This a quality recording but it’s a pity it was recorded relatively distant from the stage/speakers, so it could be better :-)
 
Even in it’s 16 bit version IMHO this is one of the top best Queen audience recording until now, as well as Mannheim 86 "Done Under Pressure In Germany" (Gypsy Eye) and Vancouver 78 audience recording, even this recording sounds better than some closer to the stage recordings, for example better than Wembley 86 "A Day At The Stadium" (Kiss The Stone) cause the sound is a bit diffuse, although was recorded very close to the stage, and better than Osaka 85 "The Last Concert In Japan" (Masterport) audience recording, which distorts mainly in the percussions although I’m not sure if this is recording’s issue but the fact is that the sound is a bit unpleasant to hear
 
 
Boston recording
* Precise and well defined sound, clean, the hiss is difficult to hear, no distortion is present; please not to confuse volume level or closeness to the stage with definition
* Complete and rich sound: low, mid and high frequencies are present
* Balanced, voices and every instrument can be heard, although in some parts the bass definition was a little bit lost, but isn’t a recording issue, e.g. KYA
* The stereo effect is very limited, but anyway is a very enjoyable recording
* And I don’t doubt this marvelous 24/96 DVD version contains a very DEEP sound, which raise it to a higher level
 
 
 

TimBHM WROTE:
That's interesting - the original shares were written up as 16bit and 24bit. Can I ask a stupid quesiton? Why author this as a DVD-A, why not just share the remastered audio files? Does DVD-A offer something extra?
 
 
 
Hi, high resolution 24 bits audio files only can be played properly in equipment with 24bits/96 Khz digital to analog converters (DAC) or an appropriate card/motherboard, normally a DVD player or a Hi-Fi system meets those integrated circuits, this high resolution format is a huge improvement for any little ear-trained people, is much more rich in low and mid frequencies and gives a more precise highs and a more natural sound, a VERY enjoyable experience.
 
 
16 and 24 Bits Analog to Digital Converters/Digital to Analog Converters:
 
Signals in the real world are analog: light, sound, you name it. So, real-world signals must be converted into digital, using a circuit called ADC (Analog-to-Digital Converter), before they can be manipulated by digital equipment. An ADC can take an analog signal such as an electrical current (a music tape in this case), and digitize it into a binary format. The key to get high resolution music is the transfer be done in a high resolution ADC. It has a sample and hold circuitry which take very narrow samples periodically of the changing analog signal and hold that samples for an adequate analog to digital conversion.
 
Whenever we need the analog signal back, the opposite conversion – digital-to-analog, which is done by a circuit called DAC, Digital-to-Analog Converter – is needed. When you play an audio CD, what the CD player is doing is reading digital information stored on the disc and converting it back to analog so you can hear the music. In other words a DAC turns a digital value in an analog waveform from the same proportion.
 
Precision on ADC's
If we would have an analog audio signal changing between 0 and 5 Volts (1 volt = 1000 milivolts)
 
A 16 bits/44.1 khz converter has a maximum resolution of 0.07629 milivolts and takes samples of the audio signal 44 100 times per second
 
A 24 bits/96 khz converter has a maximum resolution of 0.00029 milivolts and takes
samples of the audio signal 96 000 times per second
 
The maximum resolution is the smallest amount of audio signal (in milivolts) that can be measured by the converter. As the 24/96 converter divide the audio signal in more small portions therefore is much more precise and can to exhibit much more audio content, for this reason we have BIG sized files that only can be reproduced in DVD format or 24 bit capable IO cards/motherboards.
 
So while:
A 16 bits converter has a range of values assigned of          65,536 for each sample
A 24 bits converter has a range of values assigned of  16,777,216 for each sample
 
 
Cheers!
Posted by Farrokh The Greatuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 1:47:00 AM


Alex Solan. wrote:

oh my! I didn't get your PM Marc! fucking QZ PMs! jaja
it happened the same to me when I tried to PM pittrek and he didn't get my message :@

I thought you've downloaded the pics without those marks! such a boring work as you said! you've done a wonderful job my friend and yes, I'd be really grateful if you could provide me of those pics you've edited so I can do some artwork for the audio share and this new one ;-)

Muchas gracias amigo!!

alex.solan@queenzone.com







Ok my friend; I´ll send you the pics this evening, as I get home after work :)
From all the artworks I´ve made, this is probably the one I like the most , as I could really create something good with so few, little and difficult elements ..... but, of course, It will be a pleasure having your design too !! :D

ps: "a todos los que no creyeron en mí, que la sigan chupando!!"
grande Diego !!! jajajajajajajajaja !!
Posted by Valiuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 3:20:00 AM


Farrokh The Great wrote:

Hi mates!, sorry if my English isn’t fine…
 
This is a GREAT SHARE !!!!
 
Thanks VERY MUCH to Bob for the work on this gem !!!!!
Thanks VERY MUCH to pittrek for the share of this gem !!!!!
 
This a quality recording but it’s a pity it was recorded relatively distant from the stage/speakers, so it could be better :-)
 
Even in it’s 16 bit version IMHO this is one of the top best Queen audience recording until now, as well as Mannheim 86 "Done Under Pressure In Germany" (Gypsy Eye) and Vancouver 78 audience recording, even this recording sounds better than some closer to the stage recordings, for example better than Wembley 86 "A Day At The Stadium" (Kiss The Stone) cause the sound is a bit diffuse, although was recorded very close to the stage, and better than Osaka 85 "The Last Concert In Japan" (Masterport) audience recording, which distorts mainly in the percussions although I’m not sure if this is recording’s issue but the fact is that the sound is a bit unpleasant to hear
 
 
Boston recording
* Precise and well defined sound, clean, the hiss is difficult to hear, no distortion is present; please not to confuse volume level or closeness to the stage with definition
* Complete and rich sound: low, mid and high frequencies are present
* Balanced, voices and every instrument can be heard, although in some parts the bass definition was a little bit lost, but isn’t a recording issue, e.g. KYA
* The stereo effect is very limited, but anyway is a very enjoyable recording
* And I don’t doubt this marvelous 24/96 DVD version contains a very DEEP sound, which raise it to a higher level
 
 
 

TimBHM WROTE:
That's interesting - the original shares were written up as 16bit and 24bit. Can I ask a stupid quesiton? Why author this as a DVD-A, why not just share the remastered audio files? Does DVD-A offer something extra?
 
 
 
Hi, high resolution 24 bits audio files only can be played properly in equipment with 24bits/96 Khz digital to analog converters (DAC) or an appropriate card/motherboard, normally a DVD player or a Hi-Fi system meets those integrated circuits, this high resolution format is a huge improvement for any little ear-trained people, is much more rich in low and mid frequencies and gives a more precise highs and a more natural sound, a VERY enjoyable experience.
 
 
16 and 24 Bits Analog to Digital Converters/Digital to Analog Converters:
 
Signals in the real world are analog: light, sound, you name it. So, real-world signals must be converted into digital, using a circuit called ADC (Analog-to-Digital Converter), before they can be manipulated by digital equipment. An ADC can take an analog signal such as an electrical current (a music tape in this case), and digitize it into a binary format. The key to get high resolution music is the transfer be done in a high resolution ADC. It has a sample and hold circuitry which take very narrow samples periodically of the changing analog signal and hold that samples for an adequate analog to digital conversion.
 
Whenever we need the analog signal back, the opposite conversion – digital-to-analog, which is done by a circuit called DAC, Digital-to-Analog Converter – is needed. When you play an audio CD, what the CD player is doing is reading digital information stored on the disc and converting it back to analog so you can hear the music. In other words a DAC turns a digital value in an analog waveform from the same proportion.
 
Precision on ADC's
If we would have an analog audio signal changing between 0 and 5 Volts (1 volt = 1000 milivolts)
 
A 16 bits/44.1 khz converter has a maximum resolution of 0.07629 milivolts and takes samples of the audio signal 44 100 times per second
 
A 24 bits/96 khz converter has a maximum resolution of 0.00029 milivolts and takes
samples of the audio signal 96 000 times per second
 
The maximum resolution is the smallest amount of audio signal (in milivolts) that can be measured by the converter. As the 24/96 converter divide the audio signal in more small portions therefore is much more precise and can to exhibit much more audio content, for this reason we have BIG sized files that only can be reproduced in DVD format or 24 bit capable IO cards/motherboards.
 
So while:
A 16 bits converter has a range of values assigned of          65,536 for each sample
A 24 bits converter has a range of values assigned of  16,777,216 for each sample
 
 
Cheers!



Great post, thanks
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 3:45:00 AM
Thanks a million Sir GH  for this wonderful work and Pittrek for upload it!!!
I can't wait to hear it with my dvd player! :)))

Cheers!!! :))
Posted by Lazing On A Sunday Afternoonuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 5:56:00 AM






























































Farrokh The Great wrote:































Wembley 86 "A Day At The Stadium" (Kiss The Stone) cause the sound is a bit diffuse, although was recorded very close to the stage






























That's actually a soundboard recording, taken from a radio broadcast.. !

And I don’t doubt this marvelous 24/96 DVD version contains a very DEEP sound, which raise it to a higher level

But that's only because the recording was shared in 24/96 quality to begin with.  This sounds exactly the same as the FLAC files that were shared on Dime, with the only difference being I slowed it down to play at the right speed.  In other words, we couldn't scale up the 16/44 recording to sound like this.  It would still sound the same, and it would just be bigger files.  The 16/44 share was dithered down from the original 24/96 files, and that quality loss cannot be brought back.

Can someone tell me what the difference between audio DVD and DVD-A is?  Is it that DVD-A has to be 5.1 ?
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 9:19:00 AM


Sir GH wrote:































































































































Farrokh The Great wrote:































































Wembley 86 "A Day At The Stadium" (Kiss The Stone) cause the sound is a bit diffuse, although was recorded very close to the stage






























































That's actually a soundboard recording, taken from a radio broadcast.. !

And I don’t doubt this marvelous 24/96 DVD version contains a very DEEP sound, which raise it to a higher level

But that's only because the recording was shared in 24/96 quality to begin with.  This sounds exactly the same as the FLAC files that were shared on Dime, with the only difference being I slowed it down to play at the right speed.  In other words, we couldn't scale up the 16/44 recording to sound like this.  It would still sound the same, and it would just be bigger files.  The 16/44 share was dithered down from the original 24/96 files, and that quality loss cannot be brought back.

Can someone tell me what the difference between audio DVD and DVD-A is?  Is it that DVD-A has to be 5.1 ?

No - DVD-Audio is an alternative to DVD-Video : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-A
BTW could you maybe slow down the 16/44.1 version for burning it to CD ? I tried to demux the video but for some reason I end up with an damaged file
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 10:44:00 AM






























pittrek wrote:















No - DVD-Audio is an alternative to DVD-Video :[url=http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/DVD-A][url=http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/DVD-A%5B/url][url=http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/DVD-A%5B/url%5B/url][url=http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/DVD-A%5B/url%5B/url%5B/url] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-A[/url[/url[/url[/url]]]]














Cool.. thanks for the info !

BTW could you maybe slow down the 16/44.1 version for burning it to CD? I tried to demux the video but for some reason I end up with an damaged file

Of course, that's no problem.  But why?  It's worse quality in 16/44, which is why I went the audio DVD route to begin with.
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 11:02:00 AM
Simply because I want to burn all the fantastic recordings on audio cds complete with booklets :)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 11:14:00 AM
I' pretty sure I dl a sc version at 16/44 here at QZ, made by thomasbirch.

I searched now with th function google of the forum but didn't find it!!!
Posted by goauser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 2:16:00 PM
Then I'll get the speed-corrected 16/44 version up soon..
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 2:43:00 PM
Thanks
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/16/2009 2:51:00 PM
Posted by eYeuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/17/2009 1:19:00 AM

Great, I'll get this one. No need to work on it anymore, Bob
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/17/2009 7:17:00 AM
Sir GH wrote:
But that's only because the recording was shared in 24/96 quality to begin with. 


Sorry, as I’ve said in my previous post, for me 16 bits version sounds better than most of other recordings, I’m talking about the quality of the recording exclusively, not about the closeness to the stage or volume level, although the latter are other very important factors


 This sounds exactly the same as the FLAC files that were shared on Dime, with the only difference being I slowed it down to play at the right speed.�

Although at the beginning I though that this one was authored as DVD- audio, I was wrong, so then in this case I think we haven’t take the most of the audio content…but anyway it’s strange, it should sound different in any case; can you tell me what is installed in your PC for to hear the 24 Bits version?


In other words, we couldn't scale up the 16/44 recording to sound like this.  It would still sound the same, and it would just be bigger files.  The 16/44 share was dithered down from the original 24/96 files, and that quality loss cannot be brought back.

Yes, that's true


Can someone tell me what the difference between audio DVD and DVD-A is?  Is it that DVD-A has to be 5.1 ?

Well, there's a huge difference:

DVD-Audio is a dedicated high resolution audio format, which works with 24 bits resolution and up to 192 Khz sample-rate frequency, it can be stereo or multi-channel output, it's a lossless format.
 
An audio DVD is a disc authored as DVD video and contains menus of audio files, DVD video is usually a lossy format (talking about audio only) like DTS (3:1 compression) or Dolby Digital (12:1 compression)


Best Regards!
Posted by Farrokh The Greatuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/18/2009 4:14:00 PM
this DVD- V is absolutely lossless.
And any DVD-V with PCM it's lossless.

and in this case is exactly equal to the source: 24/96

The advange of DVD-A is you could havelmultichannel lossless...DVD-V cannot reach that, nor go beyond 96...well my ears don't go beyond 44.1 :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video#Audio_data

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio#Audio_specifications


**************

ARTWOK: just wondering, and with all the respect...why don't simply to take the one made by Vali for the CD and change some of the liner notes (DVD.V, 24/96, speed correction, etc)? imho :-)
Posted by goauser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/19/2009 7:33:00 AM






























Farrokh The Great wrote:















































can you tell me what is installed in your PC for to hear the 24 Bits version?














I simply used FLAC Frontend to decode the files to 24/96 WAV.  I then corrected the speed in GoldWave, inserted cue points to split the tracks, and made the DVD with a program called "Audio DVD Creator."







goa wrote:



any DVD-V with PCM it's lossless.

and in this case is exactly equal to the source: 24/96

The advange of DVD-A is you could havelmultichannel lossless...DVD-V cannot reach that, nor go beyond 96


Excellent... thanks for the info !
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/19/2009 1:25:00 PM
I haven't downloaded this one yet, Bob, is this PAL or NTSC?

I'm doing some artwork right now :)
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/19/2009 4:21:00 PM
16 bits, 24 bits, DVD-A, Audio-DVD, DVD-V, ... I'm lost !! Lol.
God, this becomes a bit too technical for me, or is my english not being quite good !! I'm sure it is a really impressive project undertook here, and it sounds like the word "Quality" is everywhere around !! so thanks a lot for that one, even if I don't get everything right ;o)


Regards,

Olivier,
Belgium.
Posted by ruth.olivier 25008user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/19/2009 5:04:00 PM
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/19/2009 6:56:00 PM


ruth.olivier wrote:

I'm lost !! Lol.

I fix, I fix..

16 bits - 2 to the power of 16 (or 65, 536) bits in a sample (a digital snapshot of any particular moment of audio)
24 bits - 2 to the power of 24 (or 16, 777, 216) bits in a sample - so this is much better quality
DVD-V - a regular DVD with audio and video
Audio DVD - a regular DVD with just audio and no video
DVD-A - an audio DVD that supports 5.1 and other quality options beyond the limitations of a regular audio DVD

16 bit is CD audio, but this recording was originally shared in 24.  After fixing the speed of the recording I could have just encoded it back to FLAC, but to listen to it on one's stereo it must be an audio DVD since you'd have to lose quality to convert it down to CD quality.

Hope this helps... !
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/19/2009 7:28:00 PM
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/19/2009 11:22:00 PM


ruth.olivier wrote:

16 bits, 24 bits, DVD-A, Audio-DVD, DVD-V, ... I'm lost !! Lol.
God, this becomes a bit too technical for me, or is my english not being quite good !! I'm sure it is a really impressive project undertook here, and it sounds like the word "Quality" is everywhere around !! so thanks a lot for that one, even if I don't get everything right ;o)





Regards,



Olivier,
Belgium.



I again forgot you. Do you want a copy of this too ?
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 3:10:00 AM


Alex Solan. wrote:


Assuming this is a NTSC DVD, here the artwork (I've chosen a CD jewel-case format for this)

front cover (preview)

[img=http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4304/th00.png][/img]

front and inner cover (preview)

[img=http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7973/th01.png][/img]

back (preview)

[img=http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/173/th02k.png][/img]


download from here (PNG gallery, click the thumbail and then click "full size" to download the full size cover:

http://img3.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=queenrendezvousatbostonz.png


Feel free to point out any typo or mistake.

Enjoy.



Great work as usual, Alex. I haven't checked it, but I think it's NTSC
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 3:11:00 AM
Fantastic cover work!
Posted by Harry_queenbootlegsuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 3:12:00 AM
Thanks to pittrek and Sir GH for the ultimate version! Thanks to Alex Solan for the beautiful cover!

Hey Alex Solan: I would like to have your  beautiful artwork also for the 16 bit CD version. Are you willing to make (modified) the same one for the 16 bit version, with aditional info ( as a booklet) from www.collectorsmusicreviews.com and Sir Gh 's site!?
Posted by flyuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 7:33:00 AM
DEAR PEOPLE:

this is not a DVD-A.

This is a DVD-V (video)


I PMed Alex Solan.
I respect all the work of him, as well Vali's one. But artwork should refelect what is this.
I mean, there must be no reference in the logos nor in the lineage of "DVD-AUDIO"...cause this is not a DVD-AUDIO!!!!

cheers and a hug to all of you, hope you understand I post this in absolut good faith and with constructive  mood :-)
Posted by goauser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 10:30:00 AM
before you pointed out that this is not a DVD-audio but a DVD-video (I've always had that in mind) I decided to change my artwork to avoid confusions (I don't think people would actually really get confused by it but well...)

here is the new artwork avoiding DVD-audio references (previews first, then gallery link to imageshack.us)

front:



front and inner cover:



back:



DVD label:




PNG gallery, here you can get the FULL SIZE covers:

http://img99.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=queenrendezvousatboston.png
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 1:14:00 PM
Muchas gracias, Alex :)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 2:56:00 PM
thanks from here too...

now you will kill me...cause there is a THING:

you wrote DTS in the LABEL and in the BACK.

DTS is lossy.

And the AUDIO in this DVD is PCM (lossless)

Here is the tech info:

Video Attributes:
  Video compression mode: MPEG-2
  TV system: 525/60 (NTSC)
  Aspect Ratio: 4:3
  Display Mode: Only Letterbox
  Source picture resolution: 720x480 (525/60)
  Frame Rate: 30.00
  Source picture letterboxed: Not letterboxed

Audio Attributes:
  Audio Coding mode: LPCM
  Sampling Rate: 96kHz
  Audio application mode: Not specified
  Number of Audio channels: 3
  Number of Audio streams: 1


sorry to be a real pain in the ass :lol:
Posted by goauser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 3:17:00 PM
Goa, Alex will love you for this :-)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 3:41:00 PM


pittrek wrote:

Goa, Alex will love you for this :-)

:-(  ...but, es mi destino...it's my destiny it seems!!!

(seriously, dts is lossy and PCM is lossless, and 24/96 it's a superb resolution).
Posted by goauser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 3:50:00 PM


goa wrote:

thanks from here too...

now you will kill me...cause there is a THING:

you wrote DTS in the LABEL and in the BACK.

DTS is lossy.

And the AUDIO in this DVD is PCM (lossless)

sorry to be a real pain in the ass :lol:


Correct - good catch! And Alex, another beautiful set of artword as always!
Posted by TimBHMuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 4:44:00 PM
haha, no prob goa, my bad... now finally corrected: LPCM instead of DTS logo

DVD label and back cover, no need to modify the rest ;-)

download here: http://img11.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=queenrendezvousatboston.png
Posted by Ale Solanuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/20/2009 5:29:00 PM
goa wrote:



this DVD- V is absolutely lossless.
.


Nobody at this forum ever said the opposite, the files shared here are lossless, but if your dvd player don’t meet 24 Bits/96 Khz DAC’s, it will compress the files


And any DVD-V with PCM it's lossless
That’s true, but most DVD-V discs don’t use PCM as audio files


The advange of DVD-A is you could havelmultichannel lossless...DVD-V cannot reach that, nor go beyond 96...

Nope, as well
DVD-A specification support 192 khz as maximum sample rate frequency
 
Besides, without doubt, multipurpose (in this case video plus audio formats) equipment has built-in mediocre DAC’s with more distortion and more signal-to-noise ratio, etc. than dedicated AUDIO equipments, so in the latter a DVD-A recording will sound much better
Posted by Farrokh The Greatuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/21/2009 12:39:00 AM


Farrokh The Great wrote:







 







goa wrote:







this DVD- V is absolutely lossless.
.






Nobody at this forum ever said the opposite, the files shared here are lossless, but if your dvd player don’t meet 24 Bits/96 Khz DAC’s, it will compress the files


And any DVD-V with PCM it's lossless
That’s true, but most DVD-V discs don’t use PCM as audio files


The advange of DVD-A is you could havelmultichannel lossless...DVD-V cannot reach that, nor go beyond 96...

Nope, as well
DVD-A specification support 192 khz as maximum sample rate frequency
 
Besides, without doubt, multipurpose (in this case video plus audio formats) equipment has built-in mediocre DAC’s with more distortion and more signal-to-noise ratio, etc. than dedicated AUDIO equipments, so in the latter a DVD-A recording will sound much better



???

well, ayone could read wikipedia and understand what she/he wants :lol:
DVD-A specification support 192 khz as maximum sample rate frequency : do you want more sampling rate??? ...well I'm not a bat, so can't hear beyond that :lol:

and most decent music DVD has PCM audio , with dts and Dolby in multichannel.
The main addvantage of DVD-A is you could have multichannel in lossless as well go beyond 96...well I wrote the same above, so there!!!

and even the cheapest DVD standalone player I remeber reach 96.
btw: most standlaones have 48 as default, so my advice is you go and check 96 in the menu or setting of your equipment.
Also many standalones have "dynamic compression" or whatever thing like thtat, so, go and check OFF it.


and if you have money (is not my situation) obviously you should buy what Farrokh The Great says, a DVD-A player.

*******************

on topic, thanks to all the involved ones in this superb "product".
Posted by goauser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/21/2009 7:13:00 AM
Thanks!
Posted by tassilouser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 10/24/2009 12:04:00 PM
Thanks whoever is seeding
Posted by cryonicjasonuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 12/15/2009 2:50:00 PM
Hmm i appear to be stuck at 95% can someone please seed thanks.
Posted by cryonicjasonuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 12/17/2009 6:18:00 AM
Hello

Is anybody able to help me out with a snail mail trade for this speed corrected dvd ?

I'd love to hear it but can't download

I'm in the UK - happy to cover your costs - send you some blank dvd's maybe or suchlike

Please PM me if you can help

Cheers

bryony
Posted by bryonyuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/11/2010 1:46:00 PM
Thanks for speed correcting and sharing this gem! [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img]
Posted by jj__user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/19/2010 1:54:00 PM


kurgan100 wrote:

I have a four year ETA on this one, any chance of more seeders please?�

Hi Mark, I'll try to seed it during the weekend :)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 1/22/2010 1:33:00 AM
Seeding again for anybody who still needs it
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 1/24/2010 7:27:00 AM














kurgan100 wrote:







Is there some kind of menu on this?  A stange white rectangle moves up and down on my copy when arrows pressed.






Apparently this varies from one DVD player to another.  I'm no expert at authoring DVDs, so no doubt I didn't do everything properly.

That said, you should just be able to press enter and it'll play.
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/29/2010 1:46:00 PM
Hello

Can somebody kindly re-post the link to the DVD slipcase artwork for this ?

I thought I had it but when it came out of the printer it looked like I'd enlarged from a small picture and it looks real bad!
Posted by bryonyuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/30/2010 8:34:00 AM


bryony wrote:

Hello

Can somebody kindly re-post the link to the DVD slipcase artwork for this ?

I thought I had it but when it came out of the printer it looked like I'd enlarged from a small picture and it looks real bad!




here you are, courtesy of alex s.
Posted by queensideuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/30/2010 7:22:00 PM
Many Thanks to both of you !!

[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] [img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
Posted by bryonyuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/31/2010 6:02:00 AM