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Recently, Sir GH posted the master tape of this AWESOME Magic Tour show (thank you Bob). I am now posting a remaster of this master tape! The original concert ran about 15 cents slow (this has been corrected). I also have EQ'd it (did some mid boost, and some minor hiss reduction), and I made this concert into "stereo" (since the original recording was mono, I took each song, made a duplicate track, and pitched it up 1 cent in one channel--creating a stereo sound).

Set-list:

1. One Vision
2. Tie Your Mother Down
3. In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited
4. Seven Seas Of Rhye
5. Tear It Up
6. A Kind Of Magic
7. Under Pressure
8. Another One Bites The Dust
9. Who Wants To Live Forever
10. I Want To Break Free
11. Impromptu
12. Guitar Solo
13. Now I'm Here
14. Love Of My Life
15. Is This The World We Created?
16. You're So Square
17. Hello Mary Lou
18. Tutti Frutti
19. Mustapha (Intro)
20. Bohemian Rhapsody
21. Hammer To Fall
22. Crazy Little Thing Called Love
23. Radio Ga Ga
24. We Will Rock You
25. Friends Will Be Friends
26. We Are The Champions
27. God Save The Queen

This show is filled with many wonderful moments: We have an awesome crowd, and since it's early in the tour, Freddie's voice is in great shape! He sings probably his best rendition of ITLOTG...Revisited on the tour (he doesn't yelp or shout the high notes in the intro, plus he sings them on closed vowel sounds--very rare), he also delivers excellent performances of Tear It Up, Under Pressure, AODTD, Now I'm Here, Love Of My Life, Bohemian Rhapsody (one of the best versions on the tour), We Will Rock You, and WATC!

Thanks goes to Sir GH for sharing this wonderful concert, and Olivier Feltgen for taping this concert!

ENJOY!!!
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 12:36:00 AM
Thank you very much and thanks to Sir GH.
Posted by tccuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 1:28:00 AM
You're welcome!
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 1:41:00 AM
Thank you both of you.
Posted by PBBuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:03:00 AM
MERCI BEAUCOUP
Posted by vivaqueenuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:38:00 AM
Mediafire or Megaupload, please Greg =)
Posted by Fabio Tostiuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 7:00:00 AM
Thank you very much for this special show!
Posted by Tim Juneuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 7:51:00 AM
Nice, thanks :-)
Posted by pittrekuser is on Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 10:12:00 AM
I'll upload this to megaupload/mediafire today!
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 11:38:00 AM
much thanks!
Posted by dive2063user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 12:12:00 PM
Thanks to all people involved
Posted by Stephane15user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 12:23:00 PM
(double post)
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 2:40:00 PM
(double post)
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:16:00 PM
Thanks for the speed correction, but there are some issues here.  First off, this wasn't a mono recording.

Listen to one of the channels on its own and compare it to the master copy, and you'll hear that it's stereo sound.  And if you changed the pitch of only one channel, then the sound is actually changing throughout the show, as one channel is getting progressively faster than the other.  Your lineage is therefore misleading, as you actually changed the pitch in two different ways.  The proper way to create the chorus effect is to copy one channel over to the other, and move it over a hair... this way the timeline remains constant.�

You altered the tracks separately, which is a major no no... this created SBEs... i.e. clicks between the tracks.  You should always paste the tracks into one giant track and then separate them later.  But this particular case is even worse, because by changing the pitch on only one channel, the length of each channel is now different, so one channel briefly cuts out between every song.  See the attached screenshot.

And when naming the tracks, you didn't have the leading zero on the first 9 tracks, so the track order is shuffled.

Everyone can feel free to decide for themselves.. but if I were the moderator here I would be pulling this before more people can jump on.

With all due respect, please leave remastering to those who know what they are doing.
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:17:00 PM
All I did was copy the track over to another channel, then raised the pitch (didn't touch actual tempo), by 0.001 of a semitone. That way, it creates the "stereo" effect. Whenever I fix the pitch and tempo on recordings, I do them separate (to be as accurate as possible). I did try using the "chorus" method, but that causing some bad distortion, and an "artificial" sound to go through the sound (even with an EQ attempt). Moving the timeline in Audacity was actually throwing the tempo and sync OFF.

As for the SBEs, I dunno, maybe I did inadvertently caused those. In that case, I'll take responsibility for that-sorry.

BTW, I do know how to remaster (well on a basic level), I was probably having an off day and coupled with the excitement of this concert, I overlooked some stuff.

Thanks for the comment, though.
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:20:00 PM
That is not the proper way to create the "stereo" effect.

Stereo is when the two channels are actually different.  What you've done is removed one perfectly good channel, duplicated the other, and changed the speed of one of them.  Therefore at any given snapshot of time, the timeline of the two channels is not identical to any other.  The fluctuation isn't audible, but this is why there are gaps between the tracks in one channel.

>I did try using the "chorus" method, but that causing some bad distortion, and an "artificial" sound to go through the sound (even with an EQ attempt).

You have to time it right.  It can be done, but not with old concert recordings that are already in stereo to begin with.

>BTW, I do know how to remaster (well on a basic level)

Until you're a professional (or something close to it), you probably shouldn't share your work with hundreds of people.

Aaron Sorkin once said.. "I am all for everyone having a voice.  I just don't think everyone has earned the microphone.  And that's what the internet has done."

I guess this applies to audio as well.  Thanks for your efforts Greg, but please, leave this stuff to people who know how to do it more professionally.
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:27:00 PM
Well, I was trying to say that wanted to get the sound "spread" across the headphones/speakers.

Could I at least stick the pitch correction stuff that I used to do (and that's the only thing I did)? I can't fuck that up!
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:33:00 PM
Of course Greg... you're welcome to do whatever you want.

We're all learning here.  We just need to exercise discretion and think first if something is worth publishing for the world to hear or not.

If the recording is analog-sourced and the speed is wrong, it's both speed and pitch that are off, as this is what happens when tapes run too slow or too fast.  We can manipulate one or the other or both, but in these cases it should always be both that are corrected.
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:37:00 PM
Thanks.

Give me a concert that needs pitch correction. I want to prove myself.
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:40:00 PM
Can't think of anything off hand.  Pretty much everything has already been done.  But if you do this in the future, be sure to paste all the tracks into one giant track and use a program like GoldWave to insert queue points and divide the tracks cleanly.
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 3:44:00 PM
"Nobody told you to download it." sirGH
This was your reply, last time when I was critical about a so called "remaster".
Isn't applicable to you ?
Posted by aristide1user not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 4:23:00 PM
How nice of you to pop in, creating nothing but trouble as usual.

The difference is... you've never had any constructive criticisms  You just complained, and have never offered anything of value.  When I go through the trouble of dealing with the taper and getting the recording out there, I think I am entitled to voice criticism when someone changes the recording for the worse.

But of course you'd know about these things since you're so involved in this community, right?  What exactly have you contributed again.. ?
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 6:04:00 PM
aristide1 wrote: "Nobody told you to download it." sirGH
This was your reply, last time when I was critical about a so called "remaster".
Isn't applicable to you ?
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(double post)
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 8:43:00 PM
Let's not make this too easy for him, Greg.  I'd prefer to watch him squirm..
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 9:03:00 PM
Sir GH wrote: Let's not make this too easy for him, Greg.  I'd prefer to watch him squirm..
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Haha. Does he have a grudge or something against you?
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 9:15:00 PM
Nah, I'm sure it's nothing personal.  Besides, plenty of people call this troll out on this stuff regularly..
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 9:55:00 PM
This sounds amusing!
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/14/2011 10:06:00 PM
I'm not very fond of about 90% of the remasters to be honest.

I really feel there wasn't any need to remaster this one. The original sounded like a great transfer and didn't need work on it imo.

Please note that MANY tapers prefer NO "remastering" of their tapes and mostly - as pointed out - rightly so.

There are of course always exceptions; For example: the wonderful Boston "76 recording needed speed correction and was wonderfully done by a dime member.
Also, those tarantura releases - great as they are - could be improved I think.

About this concert, it's great but imo certainly not one of FM's best...
Posted by on my way upuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/15/2011 4:41:00 AM
Do you want me to delete this torrent?
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/15/2011 4:47:00 AM
I've only just started downloading this now so I can't comment but if it's suffering from as many problems as Sir GH says then why not have a go at re-doing it the way he suggests?
Posted by TimBHMuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/15/2011 11:26:00 AM
I agree. I want to redo this. I want to just get the pitch corrected!
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/15/2011 11:53:00 AM
on my way up wrote:

"Also, those tarantura releases - great as they are - could be improved I think."

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A little birdie told me that someone is working on these shows... stay tuned !

As for this show, I think it's just fine as it was.  The tape runs a very slight tad too slow, but nothing to get excited about.  As far as I'm concerned, until people know how to conquer SBEs they shouldn't be posting remasters for people to download.  I've said my piece... but I can't control what people do.  You guys can do whatever you want.  Good luck, and have fun.
Posted by The Real Wizarduser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/15/2011 1:03:00 PM
OK.
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/15/2011 1:06:00 PM
-delete-
Posted by kohueptuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/15/2011 5:27:00 PM
on my way up wrote: I'm not very fond of about 90% of the remasters to be honest.

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I agree with You on my way up, no offense to anyone but to equalize a track generally isn’t a good idea because each one have his own preferences over the range of audio frequencies, so what is good for someone isn't necessarily good for someone else, so generally it’s better to maintain intact the track (without equalization), and once been equalized, the track, cannot be recovered the original level of db lost at certain points, by other side to use the hiss reduction option in most cases worsens the audio content due to the use of “filters” that also “stole” the high frequencies of the audio.
Posted by Farrokh The Greatuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/15/2011 10:21:00 PM
Don't download this version. I uploaded the same concert via torrent--but without modifications.

That is the version to download.
Posted by Gregsynthuser not visiting Queenzone.com
on 1/16/2011 12:18:00 AM