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Posted: 30 May 07, 16:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

1. “Under Pressure” off Queen’s Hot Space
2. “This Is England” off the Clash’s Cut The Crap
3. “Eminence Front” off The Who’s It’s Hard
4. “Brownsville Girl” off Bob Dylan’s Knocked Out Loaded
5. “Hallo Spaceboy” off David Bowie’s Outside
6. “Kill Your Sons” off Lou Reed’s Sally Can’t Dance
7. “2000 Light Years from Home” off the Rolling Stones’ Their Satanic Majesties Request
8. “Goin’ Home” off Neil Young’s Are You Passionate
9. “Song For Guy” off Elton John’s A Single Man
10. “Don’t Look Back” off Boston’s Don’t Look Back
11. “Jammin’ Me” off Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers’ Let Me Up I’ve Had Enough
12. “Shipbuilding” off Elvis Costello’s Punch the Clock
13. “Go Let It Out” off Oasis’s Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the Night
15. “Tonight” off Elton John’s Blue Moves
16. “Celluloid Heroes” off the Kinks’ Everybody’s in Show-Biz
17. “Country Death Song” off the Violent Femmes’ Hallowed Ground
18. “Busy Doin’ Nothin’” off the Beach Boys’ Friends
19. “Supernova” off Liz Phair’s Whip-Smart
20. “The Most Beautiful Girl in the World” off Prince’s The Gold Experience
21. “Human Touch” off Bruce Springsteen’s Human Touch
22. “Learning To Fly” off Pink Floyd’s Momentary Lapse of Reason
23. “I Don’t Want Your Love” off Duran Duran’s Big Thing
24. “Wild Wild Life” off The Talking Heads’ True Stories
25. “My Love” off Wings’ Red Rose Speedway
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/05/29/rolling-stones-25-greatest-songs-off-bad-albums/

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Posted: 30 May 07, 16:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Disappointing that they would consider Boston's Don't Look Back a "bad album." Incomplete, yes, but that's due to label interference; it still has several good tunes including Party and A Man I'll Never Be.

As for the Queen jab, I'd have to agree with RS for once.


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Posted: 30 May 07, 17:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the Night


Even though "Little Lies" and "Seven Wonders" scored much higher in the charts? This album also contained another single, "Everywhere".

Great choice for a bad album, Rolling Stone.

But they finally put Queen #1 at something...

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Posted: 30 May 07, 18:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great list!

Oh... and I fully agree with Tango in the Night being on there. They may have been bigger hits but yuck.

Not so sure about Momentary Lapse of Reason, but it's all cool. :)



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Posted: 30 May 07, 21:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Interesting picks, although I don't agree with many of them.
Tango In The Night for example, which I consider a great album. It was a change in FM's musical direction, that's for sure, but it's a good album.

Also interesting the choices for the Elton John's albums "Single Man" and "Blue Moves" and they are probably right on these two, despite "Blue Moves" having another top notch song: "Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word"

As for Oasis' "Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants", again I don't think it's a bad album, it's just a (big) change in the musical direction, but I admit it has some very bad moments. Anyway, "Go Let It Out" is certainly not the best song out of there, I'd say "Gas Panic"

Anyway, an interesting list, which is rare for Rolling Stone...


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Posted: 30 May 07, 21:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It might be a study in contrast, too. By which I mean, up until then, Queen were on a roll album-wise, and every band has "off" albums. I like how they cherrypick off of those terrible Elton John albums, though, although you could do the same off of Dylan, Who, etc. Which they wouldn't do, those kind of bands being sacrosanct rock critic darlings.

Surprised to see them put an Elvis Costello track on this kind of thing. Every review of a Costello album has been like that of the second coming of Christ.

My pick would include "Thru and Thru," a Keith Richards-sung track off of the otherwise blah Rolling Stones' Voodoo Lounge. It's been on the Sopranos to great effect.


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Posted: 30 May 07, 22:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Momentary LApse of Reason" is a very good album. Apart from Learning To Fly, there are such great songs as the classics "On a Turning Away","Sorrow", plus "One Slip", "Yet Another Movie" and "Terminal Frost"

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Posted: 31 May 07, 01:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The album version of Big Love sounds good, but I always preferred the live version available on The Dance. Not a Fleetwood Mac fan, but I bought that CD solely for that version.


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Posted: 31 May 07, 09:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"On the Turning Away" is one of my favorite Floyd songs, ever.


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Posted: 31 May 07, 12:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maz wrote:

The album version of Big Love sounds good, but I always preferred the live version available on The Dance. Not a Fleetwood Mac fan, but I bought that CD solely for that version.


Lindsey opened his solo tour playing that solo on an acoustic the next year. Incredible. I believe it's still on his set list.

Glad to see other Tango fans, very easy album to listen to. It's the crap they started to release after that, when everyone jumped ship.

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Posted: 31 May 07, 12:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

1. “Under Pressure” off Queen’s Hot Space

Agreed, mostly. The album has a few ups, but not many.

2. “This Is England” off the Clash’s Cut The Crap

Agreed.

4. “Brownsville Girl” off Bob Dylan’s Knocked Out Loaded

Completely agreed. Great song, poor album. But the outtakes are better than the album.

5. “Hallo Spaceboy” off David Bowie’s Outside

Agreed.
6. “Kill Your Sons” off Lou Reed’s Sally Can’t Dance
Agreed. Great song, by the way.

8. “Goin’ Home” off Neil Young’s Are You Passionate
Agreed. Very poor effort of Neil's, that album was.
9. “Song For Guy” off Elton John’s A Single Man
Disagree. I think the song AND the album suck.

11. “Jammin’ Me” off Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers’ Let Me Up I’ve Had Enough
The album's not GREAT, but it's definitely not BAD. Great song, though.
12. “Shipbuilding” off Elvis Costello’s Punch the Clock
Agreed!
14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the Night
Disagree. Not a good song, IMHO.

16. “Celluloid Heroes” off the Kinks’ Everybody’s in Show-Biz

Great song, piss-poor album. Agreed!

18. “Busy Doin’ Nothin’” off the Beach Boys’ Friends
Not a good song, not a good album, IMHO. Disagree.

21. “Human Touch” off Bruce Springsteen’s Human Touch

Yep. Very disappointing album, too.

22. “Learning To Fly” off Pink Floyd’s Momentary Lapse of Reason

The album's so bad that it needs a song this good to make up for it.
23. “I Don’t Want Your Love” off Duran Duran’s Big Thing

Disagree. Bad album and bad song.


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Posted: 31 May 07, 14:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lindsey Buckingham is pure genius. I've seen him on both solo tours and yes he still does his awesomely crazy acoustic version of Big Love.

He's also doing a great version of Tusk and World Turning on this tour. If you get a chance you should check him out.

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Posted: 31 May 07, 15:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh and as for PF's Momentary Lapse Of Reason, it's common to bash this album, I'm just surprised "The Division Bell" (one of my all time favrite albums) isn't there too. Again, this is mostly due to the contrast between these two albums and the IMO much worse "The Final Cut".

Anyway, I think Lapse Of Reason has some very good moments (Sorrow, On The Turnning Away, Terminal Frost...), along with some less inspired moments like One Slip. The Watersless Floyd got much better with the Division Bell.

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Posted: 31 May 07, 15:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote:

Oh and as for PF's Momentary Lapse Of Reason, it's common to bash this album, I'm just surprised "The Division Bell" (one of my all time favrite albums) isn't there too. Again, this is mostly due to the contrast between these two albums and the IMO much worse "The Final Cut".


Ahh, different strokes I guess. I think the Final Cut, while very slow, is a good album. But then I'm a Roger Waters fan. I like David Gilmore, but the two albums that "Pink Floyd" made without Waters just bore me to tears. Without the Waters edge, Floyd never appealed to me. Kinda like MacCartney without Lennon.

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Posted: 31 May 07, 16:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

drwinston wrote:

Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote:

Oh and as for PF's Momentary Lapse Of Reason, it's common to bash this album, I'm just surprised "The Division Bell" (one of my all time favrite albums) isn't there too. Again, this is mostly due to the contrast between these two albums and the IMO much worse "The Final Cut".


Ahh, different strokes I guess. I think the Final Cut, while very slow, is a good album. But then I'm a Roger Waters fan. I like David Gilmore, but the two albums that "Pink Floyd" made without Waters just bore me to tears. Without the Waters edge, Floyd never appealed to me. Kinda like MacCartney without Lennon.


Yeah different strokes ;-)

I like The Final Cut... sometimes. As you say it's a very slow album, but I admit it could be MUCH better if it wasn't for the terrible mixing job Roger did with it. Basically, he decided to put all the music layers too much behind his voice, in a way that if you listen to the album in a low volume, you can hear nothing but him.

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Posted: 31 May 07, 17:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually it's great to see the Tango defence. I prefer other albums...even Mirage...but it's by no means a "bad album".

The Who's "It's Hard" is a truly woeful album, and really the lads should have taken their "extended rest" after "Face Dances". I mean, for fuck's sake...Kenny Jones, like.... Though I agree that Eminence Front is excellent.

As for "Human Touch"...not one of Springsteen's best efforts, but I think "57 Channels", and "I Wish I Were Blind" weren't bad efforts.


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Posted: 31 May 07, 19:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Friends by The Beach Boys is a fab album. It's no Pet Sounds, Today or Holland - but has it's moments.

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Posted: 01 Jun 07, 07:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era.
Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone.

Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list.

- 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa
- 'Please' from Pop

Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.


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Posted: 01 Jun 07, 15:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Yeah different strokes ;-)

I like The Final Cut... sometimes. As you say it's a very slow album, but I admit it could be MUCH better if it wasn't for the terrible mixing job Roger did with it. Basically, he decided to put all the music layers too much behind his voice, in a way that if you listen to the album in a low volume, you can hear nothing but him.


Excellent point - and then the times he whispers you hear nothing at all! I didn't know he did the mix, although that makes sense since the band was ruled under his dictatorship at the time. Still, an incredibly gifted songwriter.

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Posted: 02 Jun 07, 16:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I can't understand why Outside by Bowie is viewed as bad album. It's great as far as I'm concerned even if the crime story is too bizarre to follow.


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