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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 15:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Apologies for bringing this up if it has already been a topic, but I just came across this "rumor":

Rocky III's soundtrack contained Survivor's "Eye Of The Tiger." The song went on to become an international chart-topper later in 1982. Stallone had originally intended for the film to feature Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust", but he was unable to secure the rights. "Eye of the Tiger" was written specifically for the movie, and is based on a line of the film's dialogue.

Interestingly, according to Peter Jones, he (Sly)also wanted to meet Freddie Mercury at one point, but Mercury refused... they were dining at the same restaurant.

Is this true and are there any details known about this? Perhaps Queen's plunge in the US could have been avoided?

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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 16:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Where do you find this stuff?


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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 17:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wikipedia sucks. I hate Wikipedia. It lies.


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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 18:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So you two don't know. Thanks for your opinions, but here's another source:

http://www.totalrocky.com/films/rockyiii/soundtrack.html

Let me know when you think this website sucks and lies.

How about this from Jim Peterik's website? He's the writer of Eye Of The Tiger:

Jim Peterik wrote:


Without a doubt, the question I get asked most frequently regarding my musical career is, "How did you get that song in that Rocky movie?" (Actually, just edging out that question is "When you write a song, which comes first, the words or the music?") So I thought I'd address that issue once and for all (for all those who log onto my web site at any rate).

Those of you who have seen an Ides of March show are familiar with the story I tell before we do "Eye of the Tiger" and though I embellish it a bit as the spirit moves me, it is the truth as I remember it.

I was living at my old house in LaGrange, IL in 1981, and I came home from some errands and decided to check my message machine. Answering machines were still something of a novelty back then and to see that blinking light was a thrill. When I pressed the playback button I heard "Hey, yo, Jim, that's a nice message you got there. This is Sylvester Stallone. Give me a call at 213….. click." Well it sure sounded like the Stallone I heard in the Rocky movies and numerous appearances on The Tonight Show, but why was he calling me, and couldn't it be just someone playing a joke? Like maybe my songwriting partner in Survivor, Frankie Sullivan. So I called him up, and guess what, he received a similar message on his machine. We decided to take it seriously - glad we did!


The day the video was to arrive we went out and rented a VCR. At this time BETA was the popular format for the relatively few people who could afford one and had the room to house this behemoth. When the package arrived we ripped it open and watched it on the machine we had set up on my kitchen counter. We were immediately knocked out by the power of the quick-cut visuals. We were also struck with how well the action worked with the temp music they had supplied -

"Another One Bites The Dust" by Queen.

I remember shaking my head and saying, "How are we ever going to beat that one?" But as we walked into my piano room I started singing the dead-string guitar figure that became one of the song's signatures. As I sat down at the grand piano Frankie plugged in and started playing that lick on guitar as I found a C-minor on the piano. We jammed on that feeling for a while and where enjoying the groove and energy but we soon realized that in order to get any further we had to see the rest of the movie. When we called "Sly" back, he told us the studio didn't want any copies going out for security reasons but finally agreed to send us one, on the condition that we return it the next day.


Don't tell me I'm the only one on here that knew about this...



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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 18:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Angus's Maiden wrote:

Where do you find this stuff?


ummm... the internet.

Didn't you list SURVIVOR as one of your favorite bands?

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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 18:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't think that even if it was used it would have made a difference...AOBTD was an absolutely HUGE hit anyway.


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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 18:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ah yes, Haystacks but:

1. Survivor kept putting out pretty bad albums into the 90s with huge success in America, particularly their next two albums.

2. The US thought the next two Queen albums were pretty bad. Worse than Vital Signs and When Seconds Count? I can't believe that!!!

3. A return trip to score the title song in Rocky IV during the promotion of Hot Space.

Instead, America's only account of Queen providing a soundtrack are a cult Sci-Fi film and what appears to be a low-budget fantasy film.

I think, looking back now, Fred would have traded Flash & Highlander for Rocky 3 & 4 in a heartbeat.



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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 19:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But then you wouldn't have Eye of The Tiger, the other song that they did, or the Bud Light Commercials....

Queen soiled themselves in the US with the IWTBF video, same as Billy Squier torpedoed his career with Rock Me Tonite.

Queen did too many things considered "gay" after the Hot Space record, in that time period, a "rock" band could NOT do that and continue to have a career. It was OK in the 70's if you kept it on the downlow, but in that era, it meant career suicide.

I don't know if AOBTD would have helped in that regard, as they completely lost the casual fan.


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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 19:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Micrówave wrote:

So you two don't know. Thanks for your opinions, but here's another source:

http://www.totalrocky.com/films/rockyiii/soundtrack.html

Let me know when you think this website sucks and lies.

How about this from Jim Peterik's website? He's the writer of Eye Of The Tiger:

Jim Peterik wrote:


Without a doubt, the question I get asked most frequently regarding my musical career is, "How did you get that song in that Rocky movie?" (Actually, just edging out that question is "When you write a song, which comes first, the words or the music?") So I thought I'd address that issue once and for all (for all those who log onto my web site at any rate).

Those of you who have seen an Ides of March show are familiar with the story I tell before we do "Eye of the Tiger" and though I embellish it a bit as the spirit moves me, it is the truth as I remember it.

I was living at my old house in LaGrange, IL in 1981, and I came home from some errands and decided to check my message machine. Answering machines were still something of a novelty back then and to see that blinking light was a thrill. When I pressed the playback button I heard "Hey, yo, Jim, that's a nice message you got there. This is Sylvester Stallone. Give me a call at 213….. click." Well it sure sounded like the Stallone I heard in the Rocky movies and numerous appearances on The Tonight Show, but why was he calling me, and couldn't it be just someone playing a joke? Like maybe my songwriting partner in Survivor, Frankie Sullivan. So I called him up, and guess what, he received a similar message on his machine. We decided to take it seriously - glad we did!


The day the video was to arrive we went out and rented a VCR. At this time BETA was the popular format for the relatively few people who could afford one and had the room to house this behemoth. When the package arrived we ripped it open and watched it on the machine we had set up on my kitchen counter. We were immediately knocked out by the power of the quick-cut visuals. We were also struck with how well the action worked with the temp music they had supplied -

"Another One Bites The Dust" by Queen.

I remember shaking my head and saying, "How are we ever going to beat that one?" But as we walked into my piano room I started singing the dead-string guitar figure that became one of the song's signatures. As I sat down at the grand piano Frankie plugged in and started playing that lick on guitar as I found a C-minor on the piano. We jammed on that feeling for a while and where enjoying the groove and energy but we soon realized that in order to get any further we had to see the rest of the movie. When we called "Sly" back, he told us the studio didn't want any copies going out for security reasons but finally agreed to send us one, on the condition that we return it the next day.


Don't tell me I'm the only one on here that knew about this...



I meant in general. A lot of times, the information on Wikipedia is false.


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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 19:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Micrówave wrote:

Angus's Maiden wrote:

Where do you find this stuff?


ummm... the internet.

Didn't you list SURVIVOR as one of your favorite bands?


I like a few songs, but I'm not a hardcore fan...


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Posted: 23 Jul 07, 20:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

so thats way AOBTD
never became a hit, mmmm


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Posted: 24 Jul 07, 00:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I couldn't be bothered to read half the posts, but I doubt Queen would ever let it be in there anyways...


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I couldn't be bothered to read half the posts, but I doubt Queen would ever let it be in there anyways...


PERV!!!!!!!


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Posted: 24 Jul 07, 01:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Ah

I think, looking back now, Fred would have traded Flash & Highlander for Rocky 3 & 4 in a heartbeat.



Maybe III,, but i doubt Queen would be involved in the political IV. My god, that movie was so wrong...

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Posted: 24 Jul 07, 06:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Also from Jim Peterick's website:

"We listened breathlessly as he told us about ROCKY III which he had just completed. He said he was using what he called "temp", or temporary music in the film thus far, but that he wanted to replace it with originals written specifically for the movie"

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Micrówave wrote:

So you two don't know. Thanks for your opinions, but here's another source:

http://www.totalrocky.com/films/rockyiii/soundtrack.html

Let me know when you think this website sucks and lies.

How about this from Jim Peterik's website? He's the writer of Eye Of The Tiger:

Jim Peterik wrote:


Without a doubt, the question I get asked most frequently regarding my musical career is, "How did you get that song in that Rocky movie?" (Actually, just edging out that question is "When you write a song, which comes first, the words or the music?") So I thought I'd address that issue once and for all (for all those who log onto my web site at any rate).

Those of you who have seen an Ides of March show are familiar with the story I tell before we do "Eye of the Tiger" and though I embellish it a bit as the spirit moves me, it is the truth as I remember it.

I was living at my old house in LaGrange, IL in 1981, and I came home from some errands and decided to check my message machine. Answering machines were still something of a novelty back then and to see that blinking light was a thrill. When I pressed the playback button I heard "Hey, yo, Jim, that's a nice message you got there. This is Sylvester Stallone. Give me a call at 213….. click." Well it sure sounded like the Stallone I heard in the Rocky movies and numerous appearances on The Tonight Show, but why was he calling me, and couldn't it be just someone playing a joke? Like maybe my songwriting partner in Survivor, Frankie Sullivan. So I called him up, and guess what, he received a similar message on his machine. We decided to take it seriously - glad we did!


The day the video was to arrive we went out and rented a VCR. At this time BETA was the popular format for the relatively few people who could afford one and had the room to house this behemoth. When the package arrived we ripped it open and watched it on the machine we had set up on my kitchen counter. We were immediately knocked out by the power of the quick-cut visuals. We were also struck with how well the action worked with the temp music they had supplied -

"Another One Bites The Dust" by Queen.

I remember shaking my head and saying, "How are we ever going to beat that one?" But as we walked into my piano room I started singing the dead-string guitar figure that became one of the song's signatures. As I sat down at the grand piano Frankie plugged in and started playing that lick on guitar as I found a C-minor on the piano. We jammed on that feeling for a while and where enjoying the groove and energy but we soon realized that in order to get any further we had to see the rest of the movie. When we called "Sly" back, he told us the studio didn't want any copies going out for security reasons but finally agreed to send us one, on the condition that we return it the next day.


Don't tell me I'm the only one on here that knew about this...



Wow! I didn't know about it! But I know now! Thanks! :)


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Posted: 24 Jul 07, 15:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This aint fake at all. When Stallone had finished filming the fight scenes for Rocky 3 he sent it to the films producer to see if he liked it. As Sly had no soundtrack at that time he used AOBTD as the main theme but the producer said he should have a rock song especially written for the film, not a song that was considered a disco tune in the USA. Stallones brother Frank was friendly with a couple of members of Survivor and asked them to come up with a tune and hey presto, one of the most memorable film tunes ever. And it is true that Sly wanted AOBTD as the main tune as that was one of his fave tunes while training for fight scenes in the film.

Can't remember what issue it was in but I got that from Classic Rock magazine sometime in the last year.


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Posted: 24 Jul 07, 16:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All right. Agreed, AOBTD doesn't sound like a boxing song or an anthem. I just didn't know that Stallone was a fan, and that much of one.

Frank Stallone put out a hit in the early 80s, I can't remember the name, but it was very "Survivory". It was even in Cminor, like Eye Of The Tiger. I think Jimmy Peterik was using a little creative storytelling, the Frank Stallone connection seems far more likely than Sly calling Peterik saying "Yo!".

Makes me wonder now if Queen was ever actually contacted. Rock bands scoring movies was relatively new at that time, but Queen at least was one of the first and had established a good Action Hero theme song with Flash. (At least I think so!!)


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Posted: 25 Jul 07, 10:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great Movie.....but then again its obvious when you have the IMMORTAL HULK HOGAN in the film.....I love Freddie to death but sorry Fred you take a backseat to my biggest childhood hero and Idol of all time......THE H U L K S T E R !!!



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