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Posted: 06 Aug 07, 04:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i've noticed over the years that many of you here are not very fond of these two songs. i was just wondering why that is.

i've always thought them to be great pop songs with great melodies. in my opinion, they're certinly better than " invisible man" and " breakthru".

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Posted: 06 Aug 07, 06:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

well i dont so there you go - horses for courses

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Posted: 06 Aug 07, 07:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like my baby does me, and I dont mind Rain Must Fall, but if you really listen to them, breakthru and Invisible man are much better in terms of song writing and in composition. But it's all about personal opinion =)

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Posted: 06 Aug 07, 12:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rain must fall is a very good song i like it alot in fact i love


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Posted: 06 Aug 07, 13:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Both songs aren't as attractive in terms of depth and complexity, which most Queen fans have become used to.


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Posted: 06 Aug 07, 13:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They are simply two of the worst songs ever written by Queen, lyrically & musically.


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Posted: 06 Aug 07, 15:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Because they represent the lightweight pap that had lost many Queen of its metal fans from the 70's, they are typical of the disco/dance/crap that Freddie and John were pushing from Hot Space right up until Innuendo. The Miracle was supposed to be a return to Queen's Hard Rock Roots. In reality it was a mix of lightweight pop, some rockers and ballads just as the works, AKOM and Innuendo were.


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Posted: 06 Aug 07, 18:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like these songs a bunch myself! "The Miracle" is PHENOMENAL as far as I'm concerned! Of course I think all, eh, most of Queen's recordings are!

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Posted: 06 Aug 07, 19:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think My Baby Does Me is one of the best songs on The Miracle. I agree that The Invisible Man is a lot worse. But at first when I was a little boy, I thought the opposite...

Rain Must Fall is OK, but not among the top 3, in my opinion...

...but I'm also one of the few who likes Delilah : )


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Posted: 07 Aug 07, 10:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Russian Headlong wrote:

Because they represent the lightweight pap that had lost many Queen of its metal fans from the 70's, they are typical of the disco/dance/crap that Freddie and John were pushing from Hot Space right up until Innuendo. The Miracle was supposed to be a return to Queen's Hard Rock Roots. In reality it was a mix of lightweight pop, some rockers and ballads just as the works, AKOM and Innuendo were.
Very well said. There is not much rock at all on "The Miracle" other than "I want it all" and "Was it all worth it"


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Posted: 09 Aug 07, 00:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


<Very well said. There is not much rock at all on <"The Miracle" other than "I want it all" and "Was <it all worth it"

How about

Party
Khashoggi's Ship
Scandal
Hang On In There

+
I Want It All
Was It All Worth It

That's six out of 11 tracks.

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Posted: 09 Aug 07, 03:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What has Party to do with rock ?

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Posted: 10 Aug 07, 04:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i think elo's eldorado is better than queen's "the mirroracole."

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Posted: 10 Aug 07, 17:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

louvox wrote:

They are simply two of the worst songs ever written by Queen, lyrically & musically.


Oh my god, now you're attacking The Miracle!

Earlier A Kind Of Magic was their worst.

Two weeks ago Hot Space was the worst record in the history of Music.

So I guess Hot Space is finally growing on you!!!! :)

pittrek wrote:

What has Party to do with rock ?

Well, Headlong has Hoop Diddies, so Party has Hey Heys. Is that a reach?

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Posted: 11 Aug 07, 19:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ACTUALLY I use to think that "Party" and "Kashogi's Ship" were absolutely atrocious BUT I have since changed my mind understanding what they are and that is that one they are two pop songs that actually are o.k. BUT they are even better to the point of being great when you pay attention and realize that the whole "innuendo" proccess has started with the last three studio l.p.s from "The Mircale" to "Innuendo" to "Made In Heaven" about certain ideas of life and Freddie's personal life as well. Very smart stuff going on there that blows my mind to no end. VERY creative work in my opinion. I am quite glad for it to be honest.

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Posted: 12 Aug 07, 06:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And there yu have it!
Next album up for scrutiny should be Queen At The Beeb.

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Posted: 12 Aug 07, 09:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I LOVE Queen "At The BBC" as it was called and released here in the U.S. of A. on Hollywood Records. LOVE IT!

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Posted: 12 Aug 07, 16:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The middle section of Party is pretty rock actually, where the real drums kick in above the programmed ones

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Posted: 13 Aug 07, 05:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

cmsdrums wrote:

The middle section of Party is pretty rock actually, where the real drums kick in above the programmed ones

20 seconds of guitar+drums don't make it a rock song

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Posted: 14 Aug 07, 14:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

pittrek wrote:

cmsdrums wrote:

The middle section of Party is pretty rock actually, where the real drums kick in above the programmed ones

20 seconds of guitar+drums don't make it a rock song


It does if you're TREASURE MOMENT.

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