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Posted: 16 Aug 07, 18:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A friend of mine has several ULTIMATE QUEEN boxed sets he wants to sell now. They are unopened and still in their boxes, so mint condition obviously.

It was my bright idea that he buy them, so I would also like to help him sell them... he's had them stuck in his house all these years!!!!! Not one of my best ideas. Anyway...

Does anyone have any ideas who might to buy one?

Or does anyone have a genius concept that might be a way to pass them on?

FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR, THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE... http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=223785

The box comprises these CDs...

Queen
Queen II
Sheer Heart Attack
A Night At The Opera
A Day At The Races
News Of The World
Jazz
Live Killers (disc 1)
Live Killers (disc 2)
The Game
Flash Gordon
Hot Space
The Works
A Kind Of Magic
Live Magic
The Miracle
Innuendo
Live At Wembley '86 (disc 1)
Live At Wembley '86 (disc 2)
Made In Heaven


He wants to get back the £400 he spent on each one.

Any suggestions welcome.

Greg



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Posted: 16 Aug 07, 19:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Stick them on Ebay with a £400 starting price/reserve?


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Posted: 17 Aug 07, 05:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why has this 'Friend' have several boxes and now what to sell them? Was it an investment? Is he working as a queencollector or is he working at a store?

Bring them out at QP instead of a RE-RE-RE-RE release of Montreal and a RE-release of LIVE AID!! ;-)


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Posted: 17 Aug 07, 07:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

400 pounds each?

Good luck selling ...

Also bought a couple of Queen Rocks seconde issue LP's or Made In Heaven black vinyls?

That would've been a good investment....



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Posted: 17 Aug 07, 07:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

greg, your friend is losing money...


the logical one is good to think, but it does not to live
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Posted: 17 Aug 07, 07:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

hey, will not be that greg this making a sounding of the market to see whatever we are arranged to pay fans of queen by, in this case 20 cds, but hypothetical and speaking to future they could be the anthologies?
they do not do case to me, single I joke…


the logical one is good to think, but it does not to live
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Posted: 17 Aug 07, 08:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"does anyone have a genius concept that might be a way to pass them on?"

Drop the price.


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Posted: 17 Aug 07, 12:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen Archivist wrote:

He wants to get back the £400 he spent on each one.

Any suggestions welcome.


Put a big bag of crack in there with it.

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Posted: 17 Aug 07, 14:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Take em to the convention, I sold mine there and got the £375 I originally paid back.

if they've got the outer cardboard box with the logo on that should seal the deal - one woman was going round last year asking for JUST the cardboard.

£400 is a big ask though

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Posted: 17 Aug 07, 15:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Give him several unreleased demos (that have not already been leaked) to go with the box sets & he will sell them for £400 easy. (in fact, i'll buy one if you did) LOL!!!!!!


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Posted: 18 Aug 07, 03:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Some chance of that.Would they include the voiceover Property Of Queen Productions i wonder!

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Posted: 18 Aug 07, 06:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You don't have to snipe at him EVERY time he posts.

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Posted: 18 Aug 07, 10:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would LOVE to have this. But 400 pounds ? Forget it

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Posted: 18 Aug 07, 13:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A classic argument.

Sorry if I appear to be pessimistic, but as a ‘specialized’ Queen collector, I believe that in these more modern times, the internet (especially illegal downloads) has killed the whole ‘old-fashioned-record collecting’ thing.

Let’s face it, who wants to pay £400 for a collection of tracks, which could be downloaded for free?

In my day, we paid exorbitant prices just for the exclusive B-side. It’s not that we were any wealthier than the youth of today – it’s just that we had no other choice. For example, if one wished to obtain a copy of Queen’s ‘A Human Body’, then we HAD to purchase the 7” single. Now, (thankfully) that is no longer the case – so both the exclusivity and financial value of the recording have plummeted like a stone.

However, if it is true that ‘ephemeral music’ has lost all value, could it still be argued that genuine artefacts such as the ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ 7” Blue-vinyl single remain highly collectable?

Unfortunately, I think not, and a quick look at some collectable sites (or even E-bay) suggests that some of these ‘top end collectables’ are not only sticking in value, but also dropping in price. I guess that there are many reasons for this, but, perhaps, one the primary causes may be that ‘Queen’ may be perceived by those outside this forum as well past their sell-by date.

I personally know some serious collectors of other artists such as Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley and even ‘The Beatles’ who have also seen the value of their collections fall.

It’s not only the fact that both LP and CD’s have superseded some of these 78-rpm records, but that the interest for these collections has waned, thus spiralling a downward trend in the market.

So while back in 1987, a ‘Blue-vinyl’ may have seemed a ‘safe investment’, twenty years later, I do not think that is the case.

(Of course, while it is still true a handful of fans remain who would like to own a copy of this disc for its own sake – I believe the numbers willing to pay c£2,000 for the privilege has greatly diminished).



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Posted: 18 Aug 07, 14:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

Let’s face it, who wants to pay £400 for a collection of tracks, which could be downloaded for free?


While I understand where you coming from, I'm not sure I agree. This type of boxset was never aimed at the average fan. It is cleary a collectors item.

I think that the reason for the decline in value is not so much to do with illegal downloads, but rather items being more accessible.

Years ago you were limited to where and when you could find rare items. Now they are often available on ebay. Once something starts to become easier to get hold of it is going to drop in price.

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Posted: 18 Aug 07, 15:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

PieterMC: I totally agree with you, and I guess that there are many more significant factors, which could also be taken into consideration.

I just don't think this only applies to Queen - but to the whole collecting scene - namely that the bottom has fallen out of the collectors market and while £400 for this set is not unreasonable, very unlikely to meet the asking price.


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Posted: 18 Aug 07, 18:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And the fact that Internet changed the focus of your atention. Back in the old days i could go into a store just looking for Queen, and it was alright to spend big money. But now?

We have so much things avaiable in the internet that i see no reason in spending 500€ on an item - and beig CD´s doesn´t help either! And because i´m not rich : )

It gets to a point in life that collecting can become tedious, and specially, as JSS says, if we already have the songs.

But guive it a go at eBay- lot´s of people there willing to spend some money!

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Posted: 18 Aug 07, 21:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I BOUGHT THIS SO CALLED COLLECTORS ITEM BACK IN '95.THE HOLOGRAM HAS ALMOST LIFTED OFF THE FRONT AND THE SOUND QUALITY OF THE CD'S THEMSELVES ARE NOT THE BEST.£400 WAS A LOT OF DOSH BACK THEN AND STILL IS TODAY WHICH PROVES THAT IT HAS NOT GONE UP AT ALL IN VALUE.
15,000 WAS QUITE A LOT FOR A WORLD WIDE RELEASE.

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Posted: 19 Aug 07, 05:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

@ John - I think this specific item does not sell that well because there is nothing exclusive on the discs. If there were some rare b-sides or tracks that are not available elsewhere - more people (including myself) would have considered to buy it.

Just 20 CDs we already own in some nice case is simply not worth the money, it's just another packaging with no exclusive content.

Compare it to the Freddie box - 10 CDs with loads of exclusive tracks and you only very rarely find it on ebay, it's a very sought after item. Hardly any owner sells it. The Freddie box is a gem for any fan while the Ultimate Collection is just another cash-in. I think it has nothing to do with downloading.


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Posted: 19 Aug 07, 05:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

YourValnetine - exactly. If something rare would be in the box, I wouldn't hesitate a moment.

But 400 pounds for 20CDs which we allready have ...
Just a little example - I live in Slovakia and all Queen CDs are here available for less than 400Sk, which is less than 8 pounds . Which means all 20 CDs are here available for less than 160 british pounds. So paying approx. 240 for only the box is something which only a total Queen fanatic would do :-)

Freddie's box set is something completely different, of course. BTW does anybody have a tip where could I get it ? I'm slightly afraid to use eBay :)