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Posted: 27 Aug 07, 19:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, Mr. Alberto Gonzalez resigned today. Hopefully Sen. Hatch will be the replacement. Could care less what 'party' the affiliation of the successor, as competence is more important.


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Posted: 27 Aug 07, 22:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Competence will never happen under this administration:
I dare say I won't happen under any administration ever.


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Posted: 27 Aug 07, 23:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

what r we talking about?


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Posted: 28 Aug 07, 09:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

HistoryGirl wrote:

Competence will never happen under this administration:
I dare say I won't happen under any administration ever.


That about sums it up.

Adolfo wrote:

what r we talking about?


The US Attorney General (finally) resigned after months of pressure to do so - despite the US President's continued support of him.



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Posted: 28 Aug 07, 09:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wonder *why* he suddenly resigned...not for reasons of intergrity, that's for sure.

But first Rove, then him. It looks like the Bush-administration is trying to get people who know too much out of the way. In fact, it looks like this administration is worried to hide its dirt, meaning there's more than we have guessed about.


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Posted: 28 Aug 07, 11:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe it's my head cold talking, but I disagree.
**sniffle**
This administration would never get rid of people who knew too much by kicking them out of the administration. They'd put a tighter leash on them, pull them closer into the fold, where they could keep an eye on them. Throwing them out of the administration is equivalent to letting them go free where you no longer have control over them, and I think this administration is far too paranoid to let that happen. That's why Bush invited Gonzalez down to his ranch and begged and pleaded with him not to leave.
**sniffle**
Most likely this is just the latest attempt of a politician (Gonzalez) to get out and save some scrap of reputation he has (not that he has any left, but that's beside the point), and is another symbol of just how dysfunctional the Bush administration has become.


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Posted: 28 Aug 07, 12:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, only the Bush Administration puts in bad Attorney Generals. Here is a list of saints:

Janet Reno (Clinton) Reno faced calls for her resignation, and offered to step down, immediately after the disastrous siege of the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas, on April 13, 1993, that left dead more than 80 members of the cult, including young children. That pressure was renewed in 1999, when evidence emerged that FBI agents used incendiary gas canisters during the raid, which Reno had consistently denied (and which she later claimed to be unaware of). Critics blame Reno's management style for some of the Justice Department's controversies during her tenure. "She ran the department in a very hands-off way," says Reagan-era Deputy Assistant Attorney General Michael Carvin, now a lawyer in private practice. "[Subordinate officials] tended to drift and get caught up in various controversies."

Griffin Bell (Carter) In a case with remarkable parallels to Gonzales's current woes, Bell took fire from Republicans over the firing of Philadelphia U.S. Attorney David Marston, who had prosecuted Democratic politicians for corruption. Marston fought back, declaring that his dismissal was politically motivated. Carter initially denied that he had been familiar with the case but eventually conceded that Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. Joshua Eilberg, who was later convicted of corruption charges, had called him and urged him to "expedite" the dismissal. No action was taken against Bell, but Carter's campaign pledge not to play politics with Justice Department officials was tarnished.

John Mitchell (Nixon) Until his death in 1988, Mitchell steadfastly denied that he had ever approved the plan by G. Gordon Liddy to break into the Democratic National Committee headquarters. But that was disputed by several other White House officials, and Mitchell's role in covering up the scandal would eventually make him the only attorney general in history to serve a prison sentence. Starting in June 1977, he served 19 months for conspiracy, obstruction of justice, giving false testimony to a grand jury, and perjury. Mitchell's unswerving loyalty to Nixon held during his trial, in which he refused to let his defense lawyers lay blame on the president.

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Posted: 28 Aug 07, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry Microwave, but I'm too sick right now to fully read your post.
But believe it or not we weren't actually saying that Bush is the only incompetent idiot out there full of corrupt attorney generals. We are talking about Gonzalez right now because he's the one who quit, and he happens to work for Bush. That doesn't neccessarily mean we all think the rest of them under other presidents are any better. We are simply talking about this one case.
Nice attempt to pick a fight though


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Posted: 28 Aug 07, 17:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

HistoryGirl wrote:


But believe it or not we weren't actually saying that Bush is the only incompetent idiot out there full of corrupt attorney generals.


I know you're not.
What is this?

ThomasQuinn wrote:

It looks like the Bush-administration is trying to get people who know too much out of the way.


From a self-proclaimed historian, even. "Bush" or the "Administration" had nothing to do with this, he simply had to go. Total no-confidence.