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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 00:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Everything was going along reasonably nicely here, in recent months.... more or less, by GB Queen Archivist standards anyway. GB/QZ, it was relatively calm seas.

But then when a certain irritating person hijacked a thread for his own selfish means, I got pissed off again at him, and then Barb and Janet and the girls got all humpty too with me, and the whole thing esculated somewhat.

I really do think, by the way, that Barb is going off me you know! She doesn't send me flowers any more, nor sing me love songs. She hardly talks to me any more when I come through the door at the end of the day.

Anyway, I only have time to read the odd thing here on QZ these past months, one day a fortnight, roughly speaking, or a few hours in between the odd job, or therabouts, and sometimes more... so I cannot get to EVERYTHING. This annoys a few of you, but I cannot get to everything and that's life. And, besides, when you analyse it, I have actually answered 99.99999% of the questions posed here already, if people did the research.

Everything asked here, bar very little, has been asked of me at conventions or on QOL, or on here at QZ. So please go looking for it before asking it again and again. I think that's fair. There are not enough hours in the day for me to get to even 10% of the repititious questions I see scattered throughout this site - posted by people who then get disappointed because I don't reply.

But when I do come here I would if possible like it to be a bit constructive... by which I mean, spending my time answering questions such as like this.... NO WE DO NOT HAVE THE GOLDERS GREEN CONCERT IN FULL IN THE ARCHIVE, ON A DECENT FORMAT, NOT THAT I CAN RECALL ANYWAY, AND NOT THAT I HAVE SEEN OR HEARD IN RECENT YEARS, BUT YES PLEASE WE WOULD LIKE IT - OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD - BUT NOT IF THERE ARE STRINGS ATTACHED, OR CONDITIONS, OR IN SUPPLYING A COPY WE PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY, AGAIN, FOR ANYONE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT LOST THINGS FROM YEARS AGO WHICH HAVE NO BEARING ON ANYTHING IN 2007, OR TO THE GOLDERS GREEN GIG. YES WE'D LOVE A COPY. YES PLEASE. BRING IT ON.

Or is this another Queen at Sunbury 1974 tapes fairytale?

So, less hijacking and complaining, and let's try to cross more constructive bridges than some of those among us would otherwise have us cross. Like you, I can certainly do without getting into futile arguments with anyone - unlesss it's productive or creative - and certainly not arguments I have already had 7 or 8 times in as many years. That is boring for all concerned, surely you agree.

There must be many things to talk about that are more worthy than the crap that has tied me up this weekend... YES Barb, I know that's largely my own fault. That's true. I bring some of it on myself, yes, ok. Hands up to that. Yes Janet, 'here here Greg, you're right there' You are right to be 'here hereing' on this one, you little monkey!

So, I'm up for newer and more intriguing roads ahead. I've had it up to the back teeth with covering OLD ground again and again, AND also with answering the same old tired questions endlessly. If you are about to ask me a question about what is or is not in the archive, whether we have plans to do a Best Of Brian or Best of Roger compilation, etc, all of which I addresed at conventions, etc, please go Google it first and see if you can find me responding to it already. It's a much more efficient way of working.

If or when I do find myself answering the same questions again, I do get a bit bored - as you know - and can tend to take the piss or write silly things to pass the boredom threshold a bit, or get into wind-ups that are all too easy. I cannot help myself. MUCH MORE creative and original questions I have not already answered ten-fold are much more like to provoke a response.

Some chap on QZ started a really great thread about other artists' archives - such as Prince's audio tapes deteriorating but him NOT letting them be baked for protection. And Stevie


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 00:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That other thread, by the way...the interesting one I mention above is called.


Queen - Serious Discussion> THE UNRELEASED / UNFINISHED QUEEN ARCHIVES COMPARED TO OTHEER ARTIST


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 03:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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...NO WE DO NOT HAVE THE GOLDERS GREEN CONCERT IN FULL IN THE ARCHIVE, ON A DECENT FORMAT, NOT THAT I CAN RECALL ANYWAY, AND NOT THAT I HAVE SEEN OR HEARD IN RECENT YEARS, BUT YES PLEASE WE WOULD LIKE IT - OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD - BUT NOT IF THERE ARE STRINGS ATTACHED, OR CONDITIONS, OR IN SUPPLYING A COPY WE PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY, AGAIN, FOR ANYONE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT LOST THINGS FROM YEARS AGO WHICH HAVE NO BEARING ON ANYTHING IN 2007, OR TO THE GOLDERS GREEN GIG. YES WE'D LOVE A COPY. YES PLEASE. BRING IT ON.

Or is this another Queen at Sunbury 1974 tapes fairytale?


I tried, I really tried.
What more could I do?








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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 06:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nobody could ever say that you are not always trying... very trying.


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 06:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Childish.


Killed by drones.
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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 07:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Nobody could ever say that you are not always trying... very trying.


And genuine fans wonder why collectors do NOT wish to share their treasures with QPL...
I always found it unfair that we were the one's accused of hoarding our rarities, when in fact nothing could be further than the truth.

At the end of the day, I will still own this 'Master', and while QPL can afford to turn their nose up to this (and the many other rarities I possess) it is a shame because it is the genuine fans who will suffer and lose out because of such pettiness.

So while you preach '...pooling of resources in everyone's best interests...', in reality, you (and your employers) do not give a damn. As long as the musical is a success, they can string us along with yet another re-re-release and the hope of a non-materialising anthology. It is all lip-service.

If you (by that I mean QPL) do NOT wish fans to contribute, do NOT ask - or if THEY really do wish collector collaboration, then I really think YOU need to attend some public relations courses, as I for one would rather burn my collection than donate it to such a spiteful and indifferent organisation.


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 09:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"I for one would rather burn my collection than donate it to such a spiteful and indifferent organisation."

Ooooh. That is what I call a passionate hobby. Be sure to use fire safety, John.

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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 11:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If you want LESS argumentative threads, then why make another?

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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 12:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

... then I really think YOU need to attend some public relations courses ...


Well said.

Ooops, there I go again!

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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 13:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think if I locked the lot of you in a room with one gun, this problem would get sorted in under an hour. Just get the hell over yourselves you insular people. GB, stop being a cocksucker, JSS just hand over the goods - it's not even yours anyway. Come on, what if a comet wiped us all out tomorrow?? Jesus Christ. Just..... DO THE THING.


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 13:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/772/gbolivebranch2001ws9.jpg

OH LOOK at that. Argument over. Cool!


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 14:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/772/gbolivebranch2001ws9.jpg

OH LOOK at that. Argument over. Cool!


LOL...you really like using that pic, don't you? ;-)

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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 14:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FEWER...


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 15:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bohardy wrote:

FEWER...


Less is more?

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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 15:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Donna13 wrote:

Bohardy wrote:

FEWER...


Less is more?


No no! I think he's got a point! /:)


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 15:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:

...JSS just hand over the goods - it's not even yours anyway...


What gives you that idea?
Besides, I want a new house. Why don't you hand me over yours?


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 15:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If your not going to give it to him I don't suppose your going to share it here neither?


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Posted: 02 Sep 07, 15:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

...beats head against wall in frustrated disbelief...some more...


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Posted: 03 Sep 07, 06:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"What gives you that idea?"

I don't recall seeing you in the studio recording any of it.

"Besides, I want a new house. Why don't you hand me over yours?"

Because you haven't helped to build bits of it.

I might go on a trek to the Titanic and 'find' a neat pair of mens shoes, but they sure ain't mine!


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Zebonka12 wrote:

"What gives you that idea?"

I don't recall seeing you in the studio recording any of it.

"Besides, I want a new house. Why don't you hand me over yours?"

Because you haven't helped to build bits of it.

I might go on a trek to the Titanic and 'find' a neat pair of mens shoes, but they sure ain't mine!


How many times do I have to say this?

I was NOT in the studio when Picasso painted his 'Le Reve' either, but, if the painting legitimately came up for sale, via auction, then I would, by law - OWN that painting.

This is called transfer of ownership. This works because I live in a Capitalist society, and I have legally PAID for the privilege of ownership - and if that painting increases in value over thirty years, even Picasso’s grandchildren would have no claim on MY property because I legitimately own the painting.

I also legitimately own my home, my car, my television etc because I also paid for them. Do you want me to hand those over too?

However, I am OPEN to negotiation, and I have generously OFFERED MY TAPE up to Queen Productions - if THEY desire it. I am NOT keeping anthing from them. But, (and I hope this is viewed in context) because of past experience, I am loath to hand over anything without some sort of caveats in place to protect ALL parties. Is that stll being too unreasonable for you - or do you think I am being fair?

Why is that so difficult to understand - and why does that make ME the villian of the piece? What more would you have me do?



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