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Posted: 16 Sep 07, 15:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Did Mike Moran use the Fairlight?


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Posted: 16 Sep 07, 16:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Henry V wrote:

Did Mike Moran use the Fairlight?



I don't know, but i think it has to be said Mike was such a talented musician, more so than Freddie...but Freddie is better because while Mike is a fantastic pianist and arranger, he's one of many. On the oter hand how many great singers are there? A few, and the best is dead.

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Posted: 16 Sep 07, 19:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's a combination of sampling, programming, playing and actual orchestral instruments.


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Posted: 17 Sep 07, 12:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

It's a combination of sampling, programming, playing and actual orchestral instruments.


I allway thought that the music was all interpreted by an orchestra!

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Posted: 17 Sep 07, 15:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I allway thought that the music was all interpreted by an orchestra!


Unfortunately not. That fact alone almost wrecks the album for me. It certainly makes it extremely dated. One of my dreams is that someone would orchestrate the Barcelona albums for a real orchestra (it wouldn't be that difficult, there's nothing wrong with Moran's arrangements), and record it, keeping Montserrat's and Freddie's vocals.

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Posted: 17 Sep 07, 15:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, with a real orchestra would be great. Some of the instrumentation - particularly the strings - do sound dated these days


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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 01:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Some of those strings do indeed sound extremely dated and "corny"-even. It would really be very interesting to have the whole album re-released with an actual orchestra backing, but then again I'm sure we don't have to express our desire for more re-releases of old material, QP must have a research team solely dedicated for that cause alone...




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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 02:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Henry V wrote:

Did Mike Moran use the Fairlight?



I don't know, but i think it has to be said Mike was such a talented musician, more so than Freddie...but Freddie is better because while Mike is a fantastic pianist and arranger, he's one of many. On the oter hand how many great singers are there? A few, and the best is dead.


Was? Is he dead? :o


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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 04:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Henry V wrote:

Yeah, with a real orchestra would be great.


In 5.1 of course ;)

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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 05:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Barcelona 20th anniversary edition" should be released next year ;)

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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 06:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I too, have had the thought about getting a full orchestra to go over all the synthetic/sampled parts. I'd love to hear a real orchestra along with Mike's original piano and Freddie/Montserrat's vocals.

I wonder if this is really possible. I hope it is. Hmm...may have to ask a certain hairy man about this one. Also, a special 20th edition with a 5.1 mixed dvda would go down very well with me, too!

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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 06:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That would be really great : they should also synchronise the duet's performances with the audio of the DVD-A : it wouldn't be a problem since it was lip-sync anyway...

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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 06:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I too, have had the thought about getting a full orchestra to go over all the synthetic/sampled parts. I'd love to hear a real orchestra along with Mike's original piano and Freddie/Montserrat's vocals.

I wonder if this is really possible. I hope it is. Hmm...may have to ask a certain hairy man about this one. Also, a special 20th edition with a 5.1 mixed dvda would go down very well with me, too!

Adam.


The hairy man has very little to do with Freddie's estate. So no luck there.

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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 07:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But the hairy man co-wrote and co-produced the entire album, so he could do something about it.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 08:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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But the hairy man co-wrote and co-produced the entire album, so he could do something about it.


Erm... I thought it was generally understood that by "the hairy one" we mean Brian May. So that's what I was on about.

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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 16:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Let's get two things straight here!

1. I was referring to Brian May
and 2. I was going to ask him because I wanted to see what he thought of the idea. And also how it could come about. How it can happen.

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Posted: 18 Sep 07, 20:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam Baboolal wrote:

I too, have had the thought about getting a full orchestra to go over all the synthetic/sampled parts. I'd love to hear a real orchestra along with Mike's original piano and Freddie/Montserrat's vocals.

I wonder if this is really possible. I hope it is. Hmm...may have to ask a certain hairy man about this one. Also, a special 20th edition with a 5.1 mixed dvda would go down very well with me, too!

Adam.


i seem to remember Brian mentioning on his soapbow how it'd be great to hear an orchestra-version of the "Barcelona" album.

am i the only one remembering this?


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Posted: 19 Sep 07, 07:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, my mistake - but Mike's hairy too ;)


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Posted: 19 Sep 07, 08:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Well, my mistake - but Mike's hairy too ;)


Lately not so much. If you watch the special features of "LoL, SoS" you probably won't recognize him.

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Posted: 19 Sep 07, 10:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here it is Zak :

(...) the fabulous Barcelona for instance .... so wonderfully sung. I just have a terrible hankering to hear it with REAL orchestra one day ... who knows !

http://www.brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssbjul06a.html