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Posted: 10 Oct 07, 14:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I thought the song uses a capo or else you don't use standard tuning. How come brian doesn't seem to use either when playing...like 39 into love of my life same guitar.

Still can't get the intro to that song right. Anyone any advice on the intro?

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Posted: 10 Oct 07, 14:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The speed of the song was altered after recording the guitar. I think the reason was that they thought it was too slow and they wanted to speed it up just a little bit.

But when you speed up a tape, the pitch changes too. And therefor it sounds like it's played with a capo on the first.


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Posted: 10 Oct 07, 20:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey Niek (or anybody else who's good with mixing), do you think you could remix it and share it in its original speed?


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Posted: 11 Oct 07, 08:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's nothing more than Brian tuning his guitar up a half step on the recording. His guitar is standard tuning live.


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Posted: 11 Oct 07, 08:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No, it's sped up.


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Posted: 11 Oct 07, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'd certainly like to know where it is stated that the recording was sped up. It's stated in the ANATO Tab Songbook that the song is tuned up a half step.


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Posted: 11 Oct 07, 12:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was sped up so that the highest note Roger hits during the middle is the one Brian wanted, rather than the one Roger could do.


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Posted: 11 Oct 07, 12:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually it was sung far to fast so they had to slow it down. It also used to be called 40.


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Posted: 11 Oct 07, 12:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All I am saying from a recording engineer's point of view is that when a tape is sped up and slowed back down, you can tell the instrument or voice is not natural sounding. It tends to get that "chipmunk" effect. The guitar in that song sounds perfectly natural and does not sound sped up in either an audible or sonic sense. That's not Brian on the high notes either. Where are yo guys getting this information? If it's true, I'll shut my mouth but this is the first I've ever heard this. Please provide accurate and proven accounts. Thanks.


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Posted: 11 Oct 07, 17:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rotwang wrote:

All I am saying from a recording engineer's point of view is that when a tape is sped up and slowed back down, you can tell the instrument or voice is not natural sounding. It tends to get that "chipmunk" effect.


When it's just a semitone it doesn't get the "chimpunk" effect.


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Posted: 12 Oct 07, 16:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

Rotwang wrote:

All I am saying from a recording engineer's point of view is that when a tape is sped up and slowed back down, you can tell the instrument or voice is not natural sounding. It tends to get that "chipmunk" effect.



When it's just a semitone it doesn't get the "chimpunk" effect.


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Posted: 14 Oct 07, 19:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

Hey Niek (or anybody else who's good with mixing), do you think you could remix it and share it in its original speed?


Sure. I'll do it tomorrow. If I forget about it, please bump this topic back to the top :-)


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Posted: 15 Oct 07, 16:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bump :P


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Posted: 25 Oct 07, 08:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Actually it was sung far to fast so they had to slow it down. It also used to be called 40. "

Genius!



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Posted: 25 Oct 07, 13:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

Rotwang wrote:

All I am saying from a recording engineer's point of view is that when a tape is sped up and slowed back down, you can tell the instrument or voice is not natural sounding. It tends to get that "chipmunk" effect.


When it's just a semitone it doesn't get the "chimpunk" effect.


Actually, it does, although it's not as obvious. A good example is The Beatles 'When I'm 64', which is sped up a semitone. Which is noticable, if you listen to Paul's timbre.

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Posted: 25 Oct 07, 15:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, you can tell ... but it's not obvious, as you say. Thus, it's not "chimpunk".


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Posted: 25 Oct 07, 17:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Another sped up song is Caroline, No by Brian Wilson.

It's noticeable, but not obvious.

If I have time I'll drop '39 a semitone tonight and post it up for a listen.



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Posted: 25 Oct 07, 17:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Alright, here's '39 dropped a semitone:
www.junglenoisestudio.com/songs/39retuned.mp3

Now that I've heard it, I suspect the vocals are NOT sped up, but rather just the instrumental track.

You can hear in this version that the vocals seem wierd, they definitely sound 'slowed down'. Which supports the assertion that the song either was a)not sped up or b)sped up before the vocals were recorded.

Given that it's just easier to play in the key of G than G# on the guitar, I'd venture it was the latter.

Please note, this was done on my computer digitally, which is why there is significant distortion and artifact in the 'retuned' version.


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