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Posted: 29 Oct 07, 10:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In the Archives 67-75 Genesis Box Set, there is a reproduction of a 1970 concert poster billing Queen and Genesis supporting Kevin Ayers. Does anyone know anything about that ? I haven't found anything on queenconcerts and google.

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Posted: 29 Oct 07, 10:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger Taylor was considered by Peter Gabriel and co to be the follow-up to their former drummer, before Phil Collins joined the group.

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Posted: 29 Oct 07, 10:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, and Genesis kicks ass :D

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Posted: 29 Oct 07, 10:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pim Derks wrote:

Oh, and Genesis kicks ass :D


It certainly does. Hopefully Peter Gabriel will leave his musical industry shattering projects for a moment to do a Reunion Tour. When Collins said he would gladly play the drums and "let Peter" be the singer for Genesis' 2007 tour he surely meant it. He looked bored out of his mind during the whole tour ! And we as Queen fans appreciate the luck when all original members of a great band are alive and well.

That said, do you confirm that an early line up of Queen shared a stage with Genesis ?

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Posted: 29 Oct 07, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Roger Taylor was considered by Peter Gabriel and co to be the follow-up to their former drummer, before Phil Collins joined the group.


Source, please?

Not that I'm doubting you, I'm doubting anybody in the music industry, including Peter Gabriel, would mistake Roger for a Prog Rock drummer.

That's like Merle Haggard looking into Bill Bruford.

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Posted: 29 Oct 07, 19:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Aaah! Queen and Genesis without a doubt my two favourite bands of all times!!Especially Gabriel era Genesis!That surely would be a dream show especially in 1970.Although I thought our boys weren't gigging quite yet,although I know that they were out there a few years before the first album.So I guess it's possible.By the by I love what Genesis is doing with the release of there whole catalog in surround sound with DVD's included with each release,of all kinds of goodies.I wonder why only ANATO has gotten the treatment .Hell in my opinion every album up to and including The Game should be getting the kind of treatment that Genesis is giving there back catalog!!!

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Posted: 29 Oct 07, 19:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Micrówave wrote:

Pim Derks wrote:

Roger Taylor was considered by Peter Gabriel and co to be the follow-up to their former drummer, before Phil Collins joined the group.


Source, please?

Not that I'm doubting you, I'm doubting anybody in the music industry, including Peter Gabriel, would mistake Roger for a Prog Rock drummer.

That's like Merle Haggard looking into Bill Bruford.


I've seen the same thing said, but it's from Roger's Wikipedia article. What the original source is, I don't know. I'm taking this one with a grain of salt until it's proved by someone/thing a little more trustworthy than Wikipedia.

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Posted: 29 Oct 07, 23:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fone Bone wrote:

In the Archives 67-75 Genesis Box Set, there is a reproduction of a 1970 concert poster billing Queen and Genesis supporting Kevin Ayers. Does anyone know anything about that ? I haven't found anything on queenconcerts and google.


I don't know anything about the show itself, but I think it was from early '71. Any chance you could post a scan, so I can add it to my website? :)

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Roger Taylor was considered by Peter Gabriel and co to be the follow-up to their former drummer, before Phil Collins joined the group.


There is an article on queencuttings.com from 1975 that mentions it.



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Posted: 30 Oct 07, 01:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, Roger DID play drums for Genesis at their last show with Phil in 1993, during the Cowdray Ruins charity show that also had him and John (as "Queen"), Pink Floyd, and Eric Clapton.

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Posted: 30 Oct 07, 09:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Fone Bone wrote:

In the Archives 67-75 Genesis Box Set, there is a reproduction of a 1970 concert poster billing Queen and Genesis supporting Kevin Ayers. Does anyone know anything about that ? I haven't found anything on queenconcerts and google.


I don't know anything about the show itself, but I think it was from early '71. Any chance you could post a scan, so I can add it to my website? :)


Yes, it's 09.01.1971 Ewell, UK, quite a "famous" gig (remember Barry Mitchell's fake recording? :)

I was surprised to see that this info is missing on my website because I did read about it on several sites back in the 90's (Andy's Queen site I think, also Thomas Zeidler's concertography). I will correct it ASAP.

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Posted: 30 Oct 07, 10:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks very much for the info

unfortunately I don't have a scanner :( The poster itself is of little graphic interest anyway (black letter on yellow-ish background)



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Posted: 30 Oct 07, 10:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH,

I have the Genesis box set, I'll e-mail you a scan tomorrow.


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Posted: 30 Oct 07, 11:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rschoorl wrote:

Sir GH,

I have the Genesis box set


Yes, and everybody needs to get it. Volume I, that is.

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Posted: 30 Oct 07, 11:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr. Scully wrote:

Yes, it's 09.01.1971 Ewell, UK, quite a "famous" gig (remember Barry Mitchell's fake recording? :)


Ah, but of course... how could one ever forget? :)

rschoorl wrote:

Sir GH,

I have the Genesis box set, I'll e-mail you a scan tomorrow.


Fantastic... thanks!



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Posted: 31 Oct 07, 10:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Could someone possible upload the concert where Roger drummed for Genesis (1993)

I don't know the setlist, all I remember is that they did songs like Turn it on Again and Invisible Touch.


Too bad they didn't play Hogweed or Suppers Ready :(


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Posted: 31 Oct 07, 12:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Probably too hard for Roger.

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Posted: 31 Oct 07, 12:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Could someone possible upload the concert where Roger drummed for Genesis (1993)

I don't know the setlist, all I remember is that they did songs like Turn it on Again and Invisible Touch.


Ah, this makes more sense now. As I said earlier, Roger is no prog rock drummer. I'm sure he could play Su-Su-Sudio in his sleep. I can.

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Posted: 31 Oct 07, 14:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Turn it on again is in 13/8 time during the verses, most weird. I couldn't figure the time out for years.


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Posted: 31 Oct 07, 15:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm sure it's not 13/8.


It's more like alternating between 6/4's and 7/4's THats not the same as 13/8


The chorusses are 4/4 and the parts between the chorusses (chori?) are 3/4 and 4/4




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Posted: 31 Oct 07, 15:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Probably not Fried chicken I heard Phil Collins talking about it and saying it was in 13 something, but it's more than a straight 4/4, although hardly the toughest drumming in the Genesis catalogue.


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