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Posted: 04 Nov 07, 14:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey guys!

I'm thinking of downloading some Led Zeppelin bootlegs (video, not audio), but I have no idea what's really worth downloading and what isn't.

Can anybody give some suggestions? If possible, The Trader's Den and Dime links would be welcome. :)

I nearly began to download their Knebworth'79 DVD, but then I stopped myself... Is it one of the concerts from that era when Jimmy Page would be full of heroine and miss lots of notes?


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Posted: 04 Nov 07, 15:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If I may offer a piece of advice, speaking as someone who started collecting bootlegs from other groups....

Look at Dimeadozen, like you've said and see what's there (below is what I found via a search)...

http://www.dimeadozen.org//torrents-browse.php?search=Led+Zeppelin&cat=0

Build up a collection and see where that takes you....perhaps if you've got a favourite album/song of theirs you may look for shows related to that?

Of course, looking for a similar sharing network for Led Zeppelin and see what other fans recommend.

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Posted: 04 Nov 07, 16:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just download a couple and make up your own mind - it's not as if it costs you anything.

I've listened to loads of concerts I'd never have bothered with if they weren't so accessible.

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Posted: 04 Nov 07, 17:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Southampton 73 is an awesome sounding concert, I'd try and get that.


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Posted: 04 Nov 07, 17:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Get the ones with Jimmy shooting up heroin before the gig!!!!!!!!! Those are his best!!!!! XD



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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 02:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks, Chris and P_G. So yes, I think I'll give Knebworth'79 a try. If I don't like it, I can download others. ;D

David, thank you! :) Did they still play the Immigrant Song around that era?

@ Jessie: Nah. ;)


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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 04:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The best known/easiest available/most enjoyable pro-shot Led Zep live DVD's are
Knebworth,
Seattle 77 and
Earls Court 75.


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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 08:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If you're only after video, then there isn't too much of it. You definitely need to grab the best versions of the Earls Court 5-24-75 and Knebworth 8-4-79. Also, try seeking the best copy of the 8mm audience video from Los Angeles 3-24-75 show. It's a gem!

Audio... Los Angeles 9-4-70 (Blueberry Hill - Cobla), Southampton 1-22-73 (any version of the multitrack, which sounds like an official release), and Los Angeles 6-21-77 (first gen, Winston Remaster) are essential. Trust me! All of these are at TTD.



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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 08:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote:

Get the ones with Jimmy shooting up heroin before the gig!!!!!!!!! Those are his best!!!!! XD



You mean like he was out of his head during this "performance" (by the way its not a Led Zep gig)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93ubRaUm2J0

This is much better (from 1977)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd960djaksI&NR=1


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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 10:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you, Bob and Jeroen!

I'm actually downloading the Knebworth'79 gig, but 8-11, not 8-4 (which was partly released, right?). I was wondering if it's a good performance, as I read somewhere (I confess, it's Wikipedia!) that from 1976 until the early 80s, Page often did a poor job for being high.

And thanks for the suggestions so far! :)


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<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote:

Thank you, Bob and Jeroen!

I'm actually downloading the Knebworth'79 gig, but 8-11, not 8-4 (which was partly released, right?). I was wondering if it's a good performance, as I read somewhere (I confess, it's Wikipedia!) that from 1976 until the early 80s, Page often did a poor job for being high.

And thanks for the suggestions so far! :)

Since 1976 Led Zep just wasn't as good as before anymore as a whole. (MY opinion!)

It was not just a matter of Pagey's drugabuse alone. Plant was in bad shape more often and no longer able to sing the high notes. PLUS he was not very much 'into' it anymore after his son died...

And although Bonham was strong as ever (and JPJ... well, I never notice him ;-)...) the band just never sounded like that iron fist they were in the early years anymore.



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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 03:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, thank you!

I'll make sure I'll have a few concerts from before 1976 then... ;)

To be honest, what really made me begin with this DVD is the fact that they played Kashmir. :P It's one of my favorite songs ever. But I'm really interested in downloading some stuff from their "best" era.


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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 08:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Kashmir was playing in HMV stores while I was in my lunch break looking around there.

Reminded me of you, Raf. :)

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote:

Kashmir was playing in HMV stores while I was in my lunch break looking around there.

Reminded me of you, Raf. :)


Awww... :)


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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 10:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote:

I'll make sure I'll have a few concerts from before 1976 then... ;)


Basically... from 1973 onward, the band began their decline, as that's when they got heavy into drugs. The later it is, the less frequently the band played good shows. In 1973 there are a few weak shows, a lot in 1975, most in 1977, and 79-80 had very few strong shows (the Copenhagen warmups and Rotterdam/Zurich/Frankfurt 80). But even in those strongest 79-80 shows, the band sound like a shadow of their old selves.

6-21-77 and 6-23-77 are essential shows. The band were much into their decline overall, but these two shows are golden. The last show with a strong hint of the "Hammer Of The Gods" is the last of the six nights in LA, 6-27-77. They played for 4 hours, but Jimmy was just so wasted that he played about an hour of guitar solos sans band. But aside from that, there are many incredible moments. But for now, start with 6-21-77, and see what you think. In the opinion of many Zeppelin collectors, it's the best and most energetic version of The Song Remains The Same to start the show.



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Posted: 07 Nov 07, 04:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wonder how this bidness in December is going to go? Hmm....


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Posted: 07 Nov 07, 07:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks a lot, Bob!

Summer holidays will begin here in Brazil in about a month... I can tell I'll have a lot to do! ;)


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Posted: 10 Nov 07, 03:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yesterday I watched the Knebworth DVD! I'm impressed, and the fact that they weren't even on top shape makes it even more impressive!

I'm gonna seed that DVD and the Guitar Expo'92 some more, and then I'll download more.


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Posted: 10 Nov 07, 10:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The zepp never decline, have you ever listen 6-21-77 aka Listen to this eddie? one of their best shows ever, you should get that along with (i'm not going for the sound) Copenhagen in 79, 2-12-75 Flying Circus at New York, Fillmore in April 1969, mm some shows from 1970 like Montreux, Houston, New York, L.A (Blueberry Hill)
Oakland (amazin show), from 1972 check the Australian tour, L.A show, some of the japanese tour, from 1973 you're gonna love the European TOUR, their peak as a band, Seattle, New York, L.A from 1973, and the best tour in my opinion is return to the clubs 1971, check the Copenhagen show from May, amazin, freakin show, Plant at his best, the japanese tour, the recent montreux show, and from the last tour Zurich is a great show, a new zeppelin, in a new era


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Posted: 11 Nov 07, 07:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This link is very interesting for people who do not have any Led Zeppelin material: http://www.royal-orleans.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=18827


I have a fantastic book about led zeppelin's live shows: Led Zeppelin , The concert file by Dave lewis and Simon Pallett.

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