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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 16:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

good evening you all

this is why knebworth really exists in queen archives.
1<<>>lp and mc and cd live magic 1986
2<<>>vhs and laserdisk magic years 1987
3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004
4<<>>documentary magic moments,2003
5<<>>greg brooks mentioned in here,2007
6<<>>vhs and laserdisk rare live 1989
(the most awfull queen product in queen history)
7<<>>documentary champions of the world 1995
8<<>>queen videoclip THE SHOW MUST GO ON 1991
9<<>>the FREDDIE MERCURY tribute 1992 freddie parts.
10<<>> different reactions from queen productions
11<<>> last show from the magic tour’86
12<<>> in the biggest park in the uk.
13<<>> the very last queen concert with freddie
14<<>> one vsion and a kind of magic see nr 3
15<<>> radio ga ga and we are the champions see nr 6
16<<>> one time they have a bad recording
17<<>> they don’t have the full gig
18<<>> this year it’s not recorded at all
19<<>> someone forgets one or more cabels
wich should record the show.
20<<>>video clip freddie mercury in my defence 1992 ???????????????
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hello all you rock ’n’ rollers

it’s enourrrrrmous out here

it’s frightning i tell you

soooooooo beautiful.

queen live at KNEBWORTH PARK MAGIC ’86
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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 16:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"5<<>>greg brooks mentioned in here,2007"

i think he mentioned the audio, and the footage of the big screen (as in what we all have here already).


"13<<>> the very last queen concert with freddie"

i dont think They knew this at the time, to them it was just the last show on the tour.

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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 17:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

emrabt wrote:

"13<<>> the very last queen concert with freddie"

They didn't know this at the time, to them it was just the last show on the tour.


Yeah, but it was still a ridiculously huge show (over 120,000 people). There are many bits of pro video from various angles, but not a whole lot. Brian said it wasn't recorded in full, so until he says otherwise, I think we should let it go.



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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 18:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

emrabt wrote:

"the very last queen concert with freddie"

They didn't know this at the time, to them it was just the last show on the tour.


With repect, I disagree.

I think Freddie knew he was seriously ill by this time (rumours began circulating in the UK 'SUN' newspaper as early as 1984), and that chances were, he would never tour again as he would not have the same stamina or energy levels.

Given that the other band members covered this up, publically lied, and rallied around him at his time of need, (all laudable and understandable) the truth as to whether they knew or not is debateable.

But my point remains the same.

Either Freddie alone (or with the rest of the band) must have known that this was 'possibly' one of the 'final' tours (if not THE final tour itself) - and as such, I would guess that they 'knew' Knebworth may have been their swansong.

If this is so - I too believe the gig would have been both audio and visually professionally recorded.

My own personal opinion is, that if this recording does exist, it does not stand up to either Wembley or Budapest, and as such will not be released.

I also think that however sentimental this gig is, it is at the end of the day, yet another 'Magic' concert, and commercially it would be stupid to release this at the expense of Rainbow, Hammersmith, Huston etc.


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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 19:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

I also think that however sentimental this gig is, it is at the end of the day, yet another 'Magic' concert, and commercially it would be stupid to release this at the expense of Rainbow, Hammersmith, Huston etc.


I hope Brian thinks the same but since he has mentioned Budapest as a future release, I don't think he minds "flooding the market" with Magic Years material.

Hammersmith 79 would be my top choice. It's got a lot of commercial potential. It's got as many hits as Montreal 81 and it's a better performance and overall show. Hope they get around to release it soon.

Although, since they are making the jump into High Definition already, I think we might expect Budapest in HD and BluRay before a Hammy release in regular quality.

I remember back in 98-99 there was another empty promise at the OIQFC Magazine. I believe a 3 live shows VHS collection was in the pipeline but was eventually shelved. That might have been our last change in getting Hammersmith 75 or 79, Houston or Hyde Park.

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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 19:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

as far as I can remember, Freddie knew about his illness after the end of the Magic Tour, as the book "Mercury and Me" says. Maybe he was in danger of a HIV infection, but I think it was not proved yet.

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breakthru1989 wrote:

3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004


What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth?

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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 21:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It may have been in the back of Freddie's mind that something may have been wrong with him, but he didn't find out for sure until around Easter 1987. They knew they were going to take a break after the tour, but I don't think either one of them really had in the back of their mind 'right, this will be our last tour for sure...'


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Posted: 05 Nov 07, 23:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rmtaylor wrote:

as far as I can remember, Freddie knew about his illness after the end of the Magic Tour, as the book "Mercury and Me" says.


Little of that book should be taken seriously. It's nothing but Jim's bitter tirades.



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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 00:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Don't forget that Freddie wasn't a big fan of touring- healthy or not, and he said many times that he wasn't going to be touring as he got older.

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 04:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lester Burnham wrote:

breakthru1989 wrote:

3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004


What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth?


There is a TV report about Brian's honorary doctor degree which features a shot from Knebworth that was never shown anywhere else as far as we know.


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YourValentine wrote:

Lester Burnham wrote:

breakthru1989 wrote:

3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004


What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth?


There is a TV report about Brian's honorary doctor degree which features a shot from Knebworth that was never shown anywhere else as far as we know.

I didn't know about this one. I hope it's in the hub :-)

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 06:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Under pressure (Knebworth version) was also released on the Rah mix single of the same song - when Greatest Hits 3 was out.


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YourValentine wrote:

Lester Burnham wrote:

breakthru1989 wrote:

3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004


What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth?


There is a TV report about Brian's honorary doctor degree which features a shot from Knebworth that was never shown anywhere else as far as we know.


Ahh, okay.

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 10:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lester Burnham wrote:

YourValentine wrote:

Lester Burnham wrote:

breakthru1989 wrote:

3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004


What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth?


There is a TV report about Brian's honorary doctor degree which features a shot from Knebworth that was never shown anywhere else as far as we know.


Ahh, okay.


Here's the clip:

http://www.mediafire.com/?9qlc2iedlwc



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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 12:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As far as I remember, shortly after Freddies death, the german television did show the budapest concert.




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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 13:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wet Willie wrote:

Under pressure (Knebworth version) was also released on the Rah mix single of the same song - when Greatest Hits 3 was out.


Yes, the audio was. But then, it's already confirmed that the audio for the entire concert exists. It's the video footage that people question.


Thanks for the mediafire link. Interesting tidbit. But does QP know about it?

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 16:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam Baboolal wrote:
Thanks for the mediafire link. Interesting tidbit. But does QP know about it?

Adam.



Well, considering the number of times that this issue has been dicussed, i think they should know by now.
This topic was discussed with lot´s of details, and ideas have been guiven about possible footage in archyves of television. This footage is a great example that something can be out there.

Even if the concert isn´t suitible for a DVD release, i think it would be great to have as a Bonus DVD.

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 17:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yes bobby brown,that’s a great idea.
it’s the year 2008 budapest on dvd.
disc 1- complete concert.
with commentary by brian and roger
subtitles
disc 2--video intervieuw with brian and roger
budapest special,freddie mercury 1986 intervieuw
foto gallery,queen 1986 intervieuw.
knebworth documentary,queen interview knebworth
subtitles,queen live knebworth complete concert
brian ad roger commentary.

queen at the iron curtain 1986




hello all you rock ’n’ rollers

it’s enourrrrrmous out here

it’s frightning i tell you

soooooooo beautiful.

queen live at KNEBWORTH PARK MAGIC ’86
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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 17:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just another thought to add to the mix.

If the video footage does NOT exist - perhaps it could be re-created (in total or in part) from all the various segments or fragments which DO exist?

For example, I know that various 'Doctor Who' stories have been reconstructed, and that versions of 'The Invasion' the 'Ice Warriors' and the original 'Autons' have all been remade using all sorts of varying techniques.

If so, I also like the idea that an official 'Budapest' DVD release could have an additional bonus Kebworth (or best of) disc.
Let's be honest, it could be no worse than the 'Live Aid' or 'Wembley' rehearsals - and if they want me to buy that concert yet again...

But alas, like the six out-of-town undertakers, I think QPL have lost the plot!







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