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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 14:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry if this has been answered before, but what does everyone think of the new Queen Montreal DVD? Isn't this the same concert that was released on video called "We Will Rock You"? That show was from Montreal as well.

I hope it's not the same as I already have this on a South Korean DVD, which was not available on UK DVD, but was released on VHS a long time ago.

It would be a bit of an insult if it is because this means that UK fans have had to wait ages and ages for the DVD release.

And why does it have Live Aid footage on it as well? I already have the Live Aid box set! I bet many other Queen fans have too.

Queen are going to start losing some fans soon as it appears that they are ripping off their fans by rereleasing old material. Okay they can't really do anything new as Freddie has been dead over 16 years now, but why can't they release unheard material?

Brian May once said he was going to have some old footage of Freddie released. This was in the papers about two years ago. What happened to that?

If I am wrong about the DVD please let me know.


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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 14:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes it is the same concert that has been released countless times before. It's the first official release of the concert on DVD outside North America though.

The original VHS release was heavily edited.

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 15:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hot, hot, HOT!!!

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 15:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm watching it right now.
The first disc is not really good, the second is terrible.

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 15:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

cexycy wrote:

Sorry if this has ben answered before, but what does everyone think of the new Queen Montreal DVD? Isn't this the same concert that was released on video called "We Will Rock You"? That show was from Montreal as well.

I hope it's not the same as I already have this on a South Korean DVD, which was not available on UK DVD, but was released on VHS a long time ago.

It would be a bit of an insult if it is because this means that UK fans have had to wait ages and ages for the DVD release.

And why does it have Live Aid footage on it as well? I already have the Live Aid box set! I bet many other Queen fans have too.

Queen are going to start losing some fans soon as it appears that they are ripping off their fans by rereleasing old material. Okay they can't really do anything new as Freddie has been dead over 16 years now, but why can't they release unheard material?

Brian May once said he was going to have some old footage of Freddie released. This was in the papers about two years ago. What happened to that?

If I am wrong about the DVD please let me know.


You don't read other people's threads do you?

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 16:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For your consumption - http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1053012

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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 21:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

cexycy wrote:

Sorry if this has ben answered before, but what does everyone think of the new Queen Montreal DVD? Isn't this the same concert that was released on video called "We Will Rock You"? That show was from Montreal as well.


I think 'Queen Rock Montreal' is a fabulous Queen release. Yes, it has been released previous to this outstanding release, but the fact remains that the quality is incredible. The amount of hard work and dedication it took to clean up that mess MobileVision released is remarkable in its own right.

cexycy wrote:


I hope it's not the same as I already have this on a South Korean DVD, which was not available on UK DVD, but was released on VHS a long time ago.

It would be a bit of an insult if it is because this means that UK fans have had to wait ages and ages for the DVD release.


Yes, it's the same concert, but better quality. Buy it. I don't see how any of this is an insult either. Queen Productions finally made Montreal an enjoyable concert to watch, rather than the rediculous quality we had to put up with 'We Will Rock You' or any other previous Montreal VHS/DVD.

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And why does it have Live Aid footage on it as well? I already have the Live Aid box set! I bet many other Queen fans have too.


Well, why not? Not everybody is willing to buy the Live Aid box set. I'd much rather stick to Youtube for any other Live Aid performance. Besides, Queen's Live Aid performance was historical and is frequently regarded as the best rock performance of all time. It deserves its place on any Queen release, and it's about time they released it seperate to the 'Live Aid box set'. It's one of Queen's shining moments, probably their greatest too.

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Queen are going to start losing some fans soon as it appears that they are ripping off their fans by rereleasing old material. Okay they can't really do anything new as Freddie has been dead over 16 years now, but why can't they release unheard material?


Queen, in my humble and honest opinion, are building up intensity for future releases. They're trying to cover up all the rough patches in the past by cleaning them up and making them more proper. When the time is right I believe they'll release other concerts that maybe a few of us won't be too familiar with. Oh, and for the record they won't lose me as a fan. Maybe they've brainwashed me! All I know is that they put out quality products for our enjoyment, and yes they make a few bucks in the process.

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Brian May once said he was going to have some old footage of Freddie released. This was in the papers about two years ago. What happened to that?


How old is old? Damn, I'd love some accuracy every now and then. I guess you'll have to ask Brian May himself.

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If I am wrong about the DVD please let me know.


You were quite wrong. It happens though. We learn, and so will you.


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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 22:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Yes it is the same concert that has been released countless times before. It's the first official release of the concert on DVD outside North America though.

The original VHS release was heavily edited.


Are you sure? I said I have it on DVD from South Korea, it looks official enough, could it be a cleverly made counterfeit? (No I'm not being sarcastic, sometimes you need to ask these things)

Funnily enough on IMDB.com, it says there is a goof that Freddies voice is totally out of synch in Killer Queen, but it has been corrected for the reissue.

This goof is NOT on my version of the DVD. It also has 24 tracks on it, is this longer than the VHS release or the full length gig? It says running time 90 mins. If I'm not mistake isn't the VHS release about 60 mins?

Please help me here.


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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 22:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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cexycy wrote:

Sorry if this has ben answered before, but what does everyone think of the new Queen Montreal DVD? Isn't this the same concert that was released on video called "We Will Rock You"? That show was from Montreal as well.

I hope it's not the same as I already have this on a South Korean DVD, which was not available on UK DVD, but was released on VHS a long time ago.

It would be a bit of an insult if it is because this means that UK fans have had to wait ages and ages for the DVD release.

And why does it have Live Aid footage on it as well? I already have the Live Aid box set! I bet many other Queen fans have too.

Queen are going to start losing some fans soon as it appears that they are ripping off their fans by rereleasing old material. Okay they can't really do anything new as Freddie has been dead over 16 years now, but why can't they release unheard material?

Brian May once said he was going to have some old footage of Freddie released. This was in the papers about two years ago. What happened to that?

If I am wrong about the DVD please let me know.


You don't read other people's threads do you?


I was in a bit of a rush and in my previous experience the search feature either does not work or it gives a lot of irrelavent results.

I'm very sorry about this, that's why I started this post with an apology.


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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 22:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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cexycy wrote:

Sorry if this has ben answered before, but what does everyone think of the new Queen Montreal DVD? Isn't this the same concert that was released on video called "We Will Rock You"? That show was from Montreal as well.


I think 'Queen Rock Montreal' is a fabulous Queen release. Yes, it has been released previous to this outstanding release, but the fact remains that the quality is incredible. The amount of hard work and dedication it took to clean up that mess MobileVision released is remarkable in its own right.

cexycy wrote:


I hope it's not the same as I already have this on a South Korean DVD, which was not available on UK DVD, but was released on VHS a long time ago.

It would be a bit of an insult if it is because this means that UK fans have had to wait ages and ages for the DVD release.


Yes, it's the same concert, but better quality. Buy it. I don't see how any of this is an insult either. Queen Productions finally made Montreal an enjoyable concert to watch, rather than the rediculous quality we had to put up with 'We Will Rock You' or any other previous Montreal VHS/DVD.

cexycy wrote:


And why does it have Live Aid footage on it as well? I already have the Live Aid box set! I bet many other Queen fans have too.


Well, why not? Not everybody is willing to buy the Live Aid box set. I'd much rather stick to Youtube for any other Live Aid performance. Besides, Queen's Live Aid performance was historical and is frequently regarded as the best rock performance of all time. It deserves its place on any Queen release, and it's about time they released it seperate to the 'Live Aid box set'. It's one of Queen's shining moments, probably their greatest too.

cexycy wrote:


Queen are going to start losing some fans soon as it appears that they are ripping off their fans by rereleasing old material. Okay they can't really do anything new as Freddie has been dead over 16 years now, but why can't they release unheard material?


Queen, in my humble and honest opinion, are building up intensity for future releases. They're trying to cover up all the rough patches in the past by cleaning them up and making them more proper. When the time is right I believe they'll release other concerts that maybe a few of us won't be too familiar with. Oh, and for the record they won't lose me as a fan. Maybe they've brainwashed me! All I know is that they put out quality products for our enjoyment, and yes they make a few bucks in the process.

cexycy wrote:


Brian May once said he was going to have some old footage of Freddie released. This was in the papers about two years ago. What happened to that?


How old is old? Damn, I'd love some accuracy every now and then. I guess you'll have to ask Brian May himself.

cexycy wrote:


If I am wrong about the DVD please let me know.


You were quite wrong. It happens though. We learn, and so will you.



You have a lot of interesting points here, but I'm basically trying to ask, why have they released yet ANOTHER gig which they have done before, why not release a fresh one? There must be loads of them somewhere in the vault.

The reason I feel insulted is because I already have the gig in DVD quality on import a couple of years ago, why have they only decided to release it in the UK now?

It's funny your asking about how old the newpaper article was about Brian May and the old Freddie recordings. I can tell you it was in September 2005.

I'm not saying Queen deserve to lose fans. It's good to hear they wont lose you, they won't lose me either. But it doesn't matter how good something is, peopl


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Posted: 06 Nov 07, 23:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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PieterMC wrote:

Yes it is the same concert that has been released countless times before. It's the first official release of the concert on DVD outside North America though.

The original VHS release was heavily edited.


Are you sure? I said I have it on DVD from South Korea, it looks official enough, could it be a cleverly made counterfeit? (No I'm not being sarcastic, sometimes you need to ask these things)

Funnily enough on IMDB.com, it says there is a goof that Freddies voice is totally out of synch in Killer Queen, but it has been corrected for the reissue.

This goof is NOT on my version of the DVD. It also has 24 tracks on it, is this longer than the VHS release or the full length gig? It says running time 90 mins. If I'm not mistake isn't the VHS release about 60 mins?

Please help me here.


Quite a few people here have been fooled by the Masterplan releases of Final Live In Japan and Live In Rio because of their "authentic looks", and it doesn't mean a thing. It is possible the Korean company has really licensed it from Pioneer, but it isn't very likely.

All the versions of the dvd have the same tracklisting as yours. All the VHS versions versions I have seen are otherwise identical, but don't have Jailhouse Rock. That gives them a running time of 90 minutes.

The goof you mention has been in every version of the concert until 2001. For the second Pioneer release it has been corrected.

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Posted: 07 Nov 07, 00:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

cexycy wrote:


You have a lot of interesting points here, but I'm basically trying to ask, why have they released yet ANOTHER gig which they have done before, why not release a fresh one? There must be loads of them somewhere in the vault.


Like I said, building up intensity. It's a probable theory.

cexycy wrote:


The reason I feel insulted is because I already have the gig in DVD quality on import a couple of years ago, why have they only decided to release it in the UK now?


I'm not sure what to say. All I can say is that the quality on 'Queen Rock Montreal' is much better, and in my opinion, well worth the price.

cexycy wrote:


It's funny your asking about how old the newpaper article was about Brian May and the old Freddie recordings. I can tell you it was in September 2005.


I don't recall ever hearing about that. I hope something is done though.

cexycy wrote:


I'm not saying Queen deserve to lose fans. It's good to hear they wont lose you, they won't lose me either. But it doesn't matter how good something is, people do not like being ripped off.


I can understand how you feel, I suppose I'm just more optimistic. I always look for the good qualities before getting carried away with the not so good qualities.

cexycy wrote:


Look at the Night at the Opera 30 years double DVD release. Look at the comments here regarding it. Hardly anything on there is unique to it and a couple of people said that Queen are embarrasing themselves with this release!


The only thing unique about the A Night at the Opera 30th Anniversary Edition is that they remastered it or something, and it does sound fantastic on my stereo. However, the DVD was a joke.

Yes, many people have said that Queen are embarrassing themselves with 'Queen Rock Montreal', but I don't concur. I honestly enjoy 'Queen Rock Montreal'. It's to the point where I feel as if it's a completely different concert, and I own 'We Will Rock You'. To me it's just that great.

cexycy wrote:


I'm sure Live Aid deserve an official release on a Queen product but I'm sure a few Queen fans bought the Live Aid box set for it! The box set was released over 3 years ago, why the gap?


I'm sure quite a few Queen fans (an understatement of course) have bought the Live Aid box set. Why the gap? Not sure. Maybe because the video wasn't their property? It took them a while to obtain the rights? I'm no expert, my friend.

cexycy wrote:


Why not put it straight onto a Queen DVD aty the same time and save fans the expense of the box set? I'm sure Geldof wouldn't mind as long as the Live Aid fund got royalties from it to go to charity.


You can't be too sure about somebody you don't know.

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I love Queen just as much as you do, but come on, surely you can see my point here.

And when I said if I'm wrong about the DVD, I meant wrong about the concert that is on it. Not right in opinion because there is no right or wrong when it comes to opinion.


Understood. Sorry if I was too offensive.


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Posted: 07 Nov 07, 10:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

got to add this point.
1. yes its been on dvd , france , usa versions
2. picture quality is excellent
3. the sound is amazing in dts , freddies vocals fly around the speakers like a wild banshee

altogether much better release than the ones before , i would say one for the collectors only .

now can they release grt hits 3 in dts and the queen boxsets . PLEASE .


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Posted: 07 Nov 07, 10:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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It's funny your asking about how old the newpaper article was about Brian May and the old Freddie recordings. I can tell you it was in September 2005.


Wasnt this the same article that Brian was talking about taking bits of unused Freddie vocals to see if they (Queen) could come up with a "new" song, something like the last tour opener for instance? Correct me if Im wrong cexycy.


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Sorry if this has ben answered before,
Brian May once said he was going to have some old footage of Freddie released. This was in the papers about two years ago. What happened to that?

it happened....
"Milton Keynes Bowl" and "Montreal"...are OLD FOOTAGE of Freddie ;-)

personally, i would take every word that comes form QPL with a bagful of sodium nitrate


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Posted: 07 Nov 07, 13:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The 2001 release of Montreal might not have been released outside North America but it was still easy enough to come across. I live in the UK and I bought the 2001 release easily enough in the HMV stores here and I didn't need to order it. It was on the shelves.

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cexycy wrote:

Sorry if this has ben answered before,
Brian May once said he was going to have some old footage of Freddie released. This was in the papers about two years ago. What happened to that?

it happened....
"Milton Keynes Bowl" and "Montreal"...are OLD FOOTAGE of Freddie ;-)

personally, i would take every word that comes form QPL with a bagful of sodium nitrate


What I meant was old unheard stuff of Freddie, that's what my whole arguement is about. Queen productions just baically seem to be rereleaseing old stuff instead of unseen material.


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cexycy wrote:



It's funny your asking about how old the newpaper article was about Brian May and the old Freddie recordings. I can tell you it was in September 2005.


Wasnt this the same article that Brian was talking about taking bits of unused Freddie vocals to see if they (Queen) could come up with a "new" song, something like the last tour opener for instance? Correct me if Im wrong cexycy.


Maybe you are right, but from what I read it was basically just little bots of Freddie messing around on the piano and stuff like that. Not really anything muscial but Brian was implying he wanted it released so fans could here more unheard stuff of him.

That's the impression I got anyway. As it was in the papers 2 years ago, I can't remember what it said exactly.

This was a British tabloid (I think it was the Daily Mirror or The Sun but don't quote me on that), so if you don't live in the UK there is a very good chance you would not have seen it.


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The 2001 release of Montreal might not have been released outside North America but it was still easy enough to come across. I live in the UK and I bought the 2001 release easily enough in the HMV stores here and I didn't need to order it. It was on the shelves.


Did you pay an import price for it?

All I'm saying is Queen originated in the UK, why can't they release their "new" material here first or at least here as one of the first?

Come on, as we British get everything else last, like new cinema films and computer games, let us have one privilage of being British :o)


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Well I already have the South Korean DVD of the Montrael gig AND I have the 4 disc box set of Live Aid, so I do not have any intentions of buying this new release.

Can someone please tell me why there was an out of synch goof in Killer Queen for this show? If it was recorded live, why was audio from elsewhere used?

Isn't that a bit of a rip off in itself?


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