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Posted: 08 Dec 07, 17:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey guys.

I took some pics today, transfered them to the PC and left the camera plugged all day. I didn't pour water or any other liquid on it, didn't drop it on the floor or anything.

Then, when I decide to take a few pics outside, I unplugged the camera, and when I tried to turn it on, the lenses moved as if it was gonna turn on, but they went back into the camera. It normally does that when the batteries are about to die, but like, the batteries are full... So I insisted, and then the lenses moved, and didn't go back into the camera... The screen remained black, and the leds kept blinking for some time. I insisted a few more times, and the lenses kept going in and out, and now the camera is "stuck" with the lenses HALF out.

What the hell is going on?



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Posted: 08 Dec 07, 17:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Did you try to take the batteries out and charge them (even though they were full before?). When you remove the batteries, the lens should close back up... if it doesn't, check to be sure the slide to cover it is on its track. My Olympus cover slips off sometimes and the lens gets stuck mid-way.

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Posted: 08 Dec 07, 18:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

Did you try to take the batteries out and charge them (even though they were full before?). When you remove the batteries, the lens should close back up... if it doesn't, check to be sure the slide to cover it is on its track. My Olympus cover slips off sometimes and the lens gets stuck mid-way.

Good luck.

Mine is an Olympus too.

I've just got it "fixed". Some people on another forum told me to replace the batteries, even if they were charged. When I put on different batteries, it worked.

The previous ones are rechargable, and they're full. Maybe the batteries got old and won't work properly...?

Thanks for the advice anyway. Everything's working now. :)


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Posted: 08 Dec 07, 18:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote:

Everything's working now. :)


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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 00:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just for future reference, Most digital camera's state that you should not use rechargable batteries in them, why? I have no idea, just know that's what mine says.

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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 02:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Digital cameras are touchy. So if I were you I wouldn't use anything but the most highpowered lithium or whatever batteries. When the batteries are dead my camera's lens goes in and out, in and out and doesnt stop even when I turn it off.

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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 06:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Megamike The GREAT wrote:

Just for future reference, Most digital camera's state that you should not use rechargable batteries in them, why? I have no idea, just know that's what mine says.

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I've had three different Canon digital cameras in the past five years, and none of the manuals have mentioned (or the actual cameras had) any problems with rechargeable batteries.

The most common problem with rechargeable batteries in any equipment is the voltage. Rechargeable AA batteries are charged to a nominal voltage of 1.2 Volts which drops as the batteries are used, and some devices simply will not work with anything less than 1.2 V.

The spesific problems with digital cameras are either not having enough power to save the photo you've just taken, or leaving the lense vulnerable on the outside... I suppose it's much easier for the manufacturer to reject any claims of damage if they say you shouldn't have used rechargeable batteries. ;)

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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 06:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Megamike The GREAT wrote:

Just for future reference, Most digital camera's state that you should not use rechargable batteries in them, why? I have no idea, just know that's what mine says.

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The most common problem with rechargeable batteries in any equipment is the voltage. Rechargeable AA batteries are charged to a nominal voltage of 1.2 Volts which drops as the batteries are used, and some devices simply will not work with anything less than 1.2 V.



Maybe that explains why the camera won't work properly anymore with these batteries. Thanks! :)

My manual doesn't mention anything either, and it looks like the manufacturer (Olympus) actually make rechargable batteries themselves.


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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 08:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Also, isn't it true that if rechargeables are not completely drained, they won't recharge completely either? That could be part of the problem, too. If digital cameras stop working after the battery drains below 1.2V, then we think the batteries are dead when they aren't and we try to recharge them...

just a thought.



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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 08:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote:

Maybe that explains why the camera won't work properly anymore with these batteries. Thanks! :)

My manual doesn't mention anything either, and it looks like the manufacturer (Olympus) actually make rechargable batteries themselves.


I had a quick look at the British Olympus site, and the "official" batteries seemed to have a strength of 2300mAh, which is about average. I was wondering what kind were you using earlier?

I had a quick look at my batteries, and the ones with the lower strength (1800mAh) also have a lower voltage than the better ones (2500mAh).

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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 09:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If I'm not mistaken, 2100mAh, but they weren't by Olympus.

*EDIT* My bad, the 2100mAh ones are working perfectly. The ones that fucked up were some cheap spare ones we have here, only 900mAh. So you must be right, as you pointed out the weaker ones have lower voltage. Thanks!


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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 17:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

Also, isn't it true that if rechargeables are not completely drained, they won't recharge completely either? That could be part of the problem, too. If digital cameras stop working after the battery drains below 1.2V, then we think the batteries are dead when they aren't and we try to recharge them...

just a thought.


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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 23:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

Also, isn't it true that if rechargeables are not completely drained, they won't recharge completely either? That could be part of the problem, too. If digital cameras stop working after the battery drains below 1.2V, then we think the batteries are dead when they aren't and we try to recharge them...

just a thought.
Well... For all intents and purposes of using that particular device, the battery HAS died at that point. You could of course use all of the power on an old cassette walkman which slows down as the voltage drops, but the camera would die out just as quickly the next time as well.

As far as I know, the current NiMH batteries don't have that particular issue anymore. Not that I would really notice it as I have four different sets of batteries which I've only recharged about 20-30 times each, instead of using the same set over and over again. ;)