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Posted: 08 Dec 07, 21:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I put this up on my Youtube channel and it's known to be a demo from the Strange Frontier sessions but Mr. Clayton Moss (Fishpigg) has replied that it is a song by him and recorded by The Cross. I'll obviously believe Clayton over other people, but has anyone else heard of this being from a Cross session? I was pretty surprised to hear it was a Cross song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UGzvuA1bLE

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Posted: 08 Dec 07, 22:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote




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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 00:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's definitely Clayton Moss - check out this video posted under the name of Fishpigg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShRKsfDKhmU

I wonder if this finally explains the Peter Noone-esque vocal at the end of the 'Celebration' demo...?

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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 12:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I wonder if this finally explains the Peter Noone-esque vocal at the end of the 'Celebration' demo...?


Yes, exactly.

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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 13:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Perhaps you could ask Clayton about that track Dave? He might remember it.

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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 13:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Didn't know that... but all's probable.

I have recently asked Mack a few questions (for Polish fanzin) concerning Strange Frontier and see what he answered to one of those:
47. Was the song “Celebration” recorded during “Strange Frontier” sessions? Were you involved in recording this song?

No.


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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 14:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I bet JSS is feeling confused at the moment!

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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 14:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I bet JSS is feeling confused at the moment!


I do indeed.

I currently own two x 12" one-sided LP acetate pressings of the 'Strange Frontier' album, and the tracks 'physically' exist on there.

These acetates also feature a different banding (running) order, and some subtle differences from the final album mix. So from 'this evidence', I would say that it was definately a Roger solo track.

However, as to the sessions themselves, I have no further information, other than these acetates were not 'released' under the 'Cross' banner. I accept that this does not preclude Clayton (or the other guys featuring on the track), but as this acetate is the most likely source of these tracks, then I am left somewhat confused.

Perhaps there is a middle ground, a grey area, between definitive Roger and definitive Cross material. But without any other proper recoding or studio information, I can bring nothing else to the table.


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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 15:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

and is the song Out Of My Life there also, or is this another title for I Can't Get You Out Of My Head?

I was also confused with Mack's answer - but he might not wanted to talk about outtakes.

Strangely enough, I still cannot believe Celebration as Roger's solo - it just somehow doesn't fit.

Anyway, I still believed JSS and YV's versions as they own the acetates which should be the best proof.


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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 16:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote




These acetates also feature a different banding (running) order, and some subtle differences from the final album mix. So from 'this evidence', I would say that it was definately a Roger solo track.


Any chance you could share this tracklist? :)

EDIT: By tracklist I mean ofcourse just the running order, not the actual (different) tracks in mp3 or flac ;)

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Posted: 09 Dec 07, 18:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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These acetates also feature a different banding (running) order, and some subtle differences from the final album mix. So from 'this evidence', I would say that it was definately a Roger solo track.


Any chance you could share this tracklist? :)

EDIT: By tracklist I mean ofcourse just the running order, not the actual (different) tracks in mp3 or flac ;)


Yes - I can easily share this info: However, I will have to look out my recording (as I never re-play acetates) and listen to it first - as I can not recall the track listing from memory.

Also from memory; I think it is from these discs that 'Keep On Running' and 'Two Sharp Pencils' come from - but I will need to check that out too. (I know that 'Two Sharp Pencils' was an official b-side, but, I found it strange that this track was also included).

Certainly, I would never contradict someone like Clayton - especially as he obviously knows far more than I ever will. I am just trying to find some middle ground that would help me square this circle. Perhaps it began life as a Roger solo. Perhaps it was one of the 'Cross' early takes. Perhaps it was a 'Cross' track, but it appeared around the same time as the cutting of the 'Strange Frontier' LP.

The truth is, that is a lot of 'perhapses', and I honestly do not know why, but I am very willing to share any info I have.


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Posted: 10 Dec 07, 10:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr John S Stuart. Hi from Montreau.

I hope this day finds you flowing with passion and love.

My new friends here on this place for conversation tells me that you will know the song schedule for Queen I anthology?

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Posted: 10 Dec 07, 11:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi John,

Is it possible that Roger *forgot* that he had recorded it for "Strange Frontier" when he presented it to The Cross as an idea?

Personally, I'd love there to be a retrospective The Cross anthonlogy that brings everything available under one banner - with a re-mix / re-master of the albums and session material; still....one can hope.

Triple Sod,

Bugger off - you are a troll, a liar and a buffoon.


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Posted: 10 Dec 07, 12:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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...Hi from Montreau. I hope this day finds you flowing with passion and love.


Thank you indeed kind sir. After the year I have had, it would be nice to greet some good luck for a change. At my age, it is all too easy to be grumpy and cynical, but to be 'flowing with passion and love' would indeed be a worthwhile blessing.

Triple Sod wrote:

...you will know the song schedule for Queen I anthology?


Unfortunately, I do not know this information, and can not help you here.

Does this mean that my blessings of 'passion and love' have been revoked?




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Posted: 10 Dec 07, 12:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Hi from Montreau.


Are you in 'montreux' on holiday Mr. Sod? Your profile states that you live 'over here' in the UK:

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Is this a mistake - or are you really Greg in disguise?


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Posted: 10 Dec 07, 12:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry: damn slow machine = mistaken double posting!


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Posted: 10 Dec 07, 13:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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