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Posted: 20 Dec 07, 19:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=26663

what do you think of these pics? I want your opinions on this... I personally think perfection is overrated.
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Posted: 20 Dec 07, 20:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just look at how they edited the picture of Beyoncé... I'm sure that if girls were exposed to the fact that their favourite celebrities are human and look the part, too, the pressure on being perfect would be eased. People are promoting a false ideal of beauty, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that likes to look at peoples' REAL features.


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Posted: 20 Dec 07, 20:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What I learned from that:
-Cameron Diaz has jellyrolls, somewhat
-Britney Murphy's eyebrows are something awful
-Naomi Watts has freckles on her boobs (Wait, who's Naomi Watts?)
-And Matthew whuscall's had a big zit on his forehead when that picture was taken.

;P Noooo. I keed.

Anyhow, just further proof that not many celebrities are much sexier than the rest of us...


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Posted: 20 Dec 07, 21:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thats cool tho! they should have real magazines that DONT make them look glorified or terrible. just people.


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Posted: 21 Dec 07, 08:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Did anyone else noticed that most of them still look beautiful without all the photoshop work?

Most people have some beauty. The magazines should stop making them so "artificial" and "flawless". They should edit the pictures just to adjust the lights, the colour, etc. No need to make the celebs look all "plastic".


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Posted: 21 Dec 07, 23:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote:

Did anyone else noticed that most of them still look beautiful without all the photoshop work?

Most people have some beauty. The magazines should stop making them so "artificial" and "flawless". They should edit the pictures just to adjust the lights, the colour, etc. No need to make the celebs look all "plastic".



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Posted: 22 Dec 07, 00:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They're all sort of saggy.
But I agree with Raf. :)

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Posted: 22 Dec 07, 16:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually, the 'before' photos looked photoshopped to me as well. Made to look even less perfect.

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Posted: 22 Dec 07, 19:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Magazines don't Photoshop pictures for fun. The only reason they do it is because that is what consumers want to see, and that's what they will pay for. I'm sure it would be a lot easier to present the pictures as taken, rather than wasting their time Photoshopping everything. Don't blame the media for the faults of human nature.


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Posted: 24 Dec 07, 14:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ellie<3Queen wrote:

MAgazines photoshop because the Celebs want them to


False. They do it because that's what you are willing to pay for. Magazines are made to be sold, not to appease celebrities or models.


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Posted: 24 Dec 07, 14:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ellie<3Queen wrote:

This is why girls get anorexia. MAgazines photoshop because the Celebs want them to because they hate they idea of them going into work getting their shots and noticing they had something like freckles or puppy fat which stood out or something (although they prob realised this before) but don't realise how normal this is. Then when the girls or women or sometimes boys and men see these pics they think that is how you are supposed to look, perfect. The truth is these celebrities are too vein for their own good and also their fans own good.


I often read this anecdotal evidence presented as 'fact' - when the truth is anorexia is not an eating disorder at all, but a psychological problem.

Also, I have never found any men threatened by a 'poster' campaign - be it Daniel Craig's 'Bond' ascending topless from the sea, or the latest 'boy-band' calander, body image is just something boys nor men feel threatened by.

(As an experiment how many male Queenzone readers feel threatened by 'pretty boy' images?).

I don't know what it is - nor what it shows, but the overwhelming evidence suggests that this (body-image pressure) is a particularly female 'problem', and as a guy, I just do not understand why - as in my experience, I have met some really tough, strong, confident & independant women, but still they succumb to this type of mediatised imagery.

WHY?


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Posted: 24 Dec 07, 15:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=666600><b>Music Man wrote:

Ellie<3Queen wrote:

MAgazines photoshop because the Celebs want them to


False. They do it because that's what you are willing to pay for. Magazines are made to be sold, not to appease celebrities or models.

Start a poll asking how many men prefer the photoshopped pictures from magazines like Playboy and how many men prefer "natural" looking girls.

Also take the chance and ask other things, such as... Do men prefer skinny models, or curvy girls? Do men prefer massive breast implants, or medium-sized natural breasts?

The point isn't "People will buy magazines to see perfect people". The points are:

a) many celebrities won't let "natural" pics make it to the magazines. If some of them think it's a good idea, their managers don't. It wouldn't be good for publicity, which leads to the next point...
b) by featuring "perfect" people in ads, they give people the impression that their products make people somewhat more perfect

So, basically, it isn't because we buy magazines to see perfect people, but because we will buy the products advertised there as an attempt to make ourselves look perfect.

Well, that's my theory. :P


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Posted: 24 Dec 07, 22:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

:O oh wow...I didn't think all these people would reply to this message...but thanks for the opinions! check out oddee.com and keep the opinions coming...:)


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Posted: 25 Dec 07, 00:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Body image and body cathexis are certainly fascinating subjects. They are especially pertinent to the marketing industry, where much research has been done.

I could type pages on the subject, but I'd rather type a few notes that you might actually read.

-Men do react to images of a male ideal of beauty. They tend to react with depression, reduced satisfaction with their bodies, or even muscle dysmorphia, among other things. Interestingly, men also react similarly to images of a female ideal of beauty.

-As you all know, women share similar reactions of insecurity when they view images of a female ideal of beauty. It is interesting to note that despite the negative feelings they associate with such images, advertising featuring idealized female models are highly effective, whereas advertising featuring average-looking models is met with poor results.

-Raf, Photoshopping is not the result of a manager or a celebrity's will. Everyone gets Photoshopped - from new models just trying to launch their careers to famous celebrities. It has nothing to do with bargaining power or publicity. Photoshopping is the result of what sells magazines. Regardless of what people say they prefer, it all amounts to nothing when it comes time to part with their money.

However, there are several relevant theories as to what you are saying. Your last points are correct, and do not contradict what I am trying to say, so I will elaborate on them. Symbolic self-completion theory states that we attempt to fulfill our identities by purchasing items associated with what we wish to identify with. We also buy items based on how we think others will perceive us. High self monitors are people who are highly self-conscious in social settings. They will therefore purchase items that they believe will demonstrate something in particular about themselves. Everyone self monitors to at least some degree, so it is relevant to everyone.

Granted, I've already said more than I would have liked to, so hopefully someone read some of that.


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Posted: 25 Dec 07, 02:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Music Man, I was hoping someone would see my point of view :) I have been studying about body image and how it's sometimes affected by the media. Nice to see someone agrees!! Happy holidays everyone...
By the way, I wrote to Brian May for the fourth or fifth time and hopefully he replies..><


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