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Posted: 27 Dec 07, 08:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/12/27/pakistan.sharif/index.html

Why?

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Posted: 27 Dec 07, 08:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1068193

beat you to it!
but as I said... damn! I still cannot believe this... :O


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Posted: 27 Dec 07, 08:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Huh ! Why doesn't it surprise me ?
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Posted: 27 Dec 07, 09:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Part of me is shocked, and part of me saw it coming.


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Posted: 27 Dec 07, 09:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Jingles wrote:

Part of me is shocked, and part of me saw it coming.



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Posted: 27 Dec 07, 10:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Assassination is never justified. In this case, I must however add "live by the sword, die by the sword" to that.


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Posted: 27 Dec 07, 11:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

*opens first filing cabinet and inserts Benazir Bhutto into "jeez,never saw this coming" category behind Anna Nicole Smith and in front of the space reserved for Amy Winehouse*

*closes first filing cabinet*

*opens second filing cabinet and prepares the space for President Musharaf in the "when-shit+fan=chaos" section*

*leaves filing cabinet open*...


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Posted: 27 Dec 07, 11:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I see all these countries coming out in support for Bhutto now. Perhaps they forgot about that last name for a few years.

Remember, her father was hanged for murdering his political opponent. Ask Aaron Burr how his life went after "The Duel". Then she decides to run a campaign for the people and is a shoo-in. Not long after, the scandals started and she lost the people. Kinda like Jimmy Swaggart. So she is arrested (twice this year!) and decides to start up her political career again.

And also, it didn't take much to get to her. That speaks volumes. They didn't investigate the previous assassination attempt on her life. They'll probably say she didn't get hit by a bullet at all! Heart attack? Concussion? Something.

So was this a suicide? Some are calling her a Martyr. I'd like to think my Martyrs are a little smarter than that!



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Posted: 29 Dec 07, 06:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The key point here, however, is not what Bhutto was (a corrupt power-addict, IMHO), but how she is perceived. Factionalism is running free in Pakistan the last few years, and Musharraf is completely incapable of handling it. This assassination has come at such a critical time, as to raise mutual distrust between various groups to danger-levels, in effect bringing Pakistan to the brink of a civil war. Any minor incident could now trigger that.

Should a civil war occur, a very major threat is posed: Pakistan has nuclear weapons. Should these fall in the hands of any of a number of radical insurgent groups (call them "Taliban" or "Al Qaeda" if you wish; neither exists as anything more than a collective term for hardly related extremist cells), there are very real chances of them being used...


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Posted: 29 Dec 07, 12:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was I who killed Benazir Bhutto.


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Posted: 29 Dec 07, 13:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If you wanna know, there is an article saying that she wasn't killed by the attackers. She was killed by a skull fracture caused by the wave of the bomb while she was trying to duck.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_investigation

Idon't know whether to believe this.


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Posted: 29 Dec 07, 14:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

The key point here, however, is not what Bhutto was (a corrupt power-addict, IMHO), but how she is perceived. Factionalism is running free in Pakistan the last few years, and Musharraf is completely incapable of handling it. This assassination has come at such a critical time, as to raise mutual distrust between various groups to danger-levels, in effect bringing Pakistan to the brink of a civil war. Any minor incident could now trigger that.

Should a civil war occur, a very major threat is posed: Pakistan has nuclear weapons. Should these fall in the hands of any of a number of radical insurgent groups (call them "Taliban" or "Al Qaeda" if you wish; neither exists as anything more than a collective term for hardly related extremist cells), there are very real chances of them being used...




ugh what a frightening thought!


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Posted: 31 Dec 07, 05:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've only just recently heard about this, as I was traveling all day when this happend and thus pretty out of touch with reality. But I'm not surprised. It all ended far too well after the tensions between her and Musharaf a few months back. And how she died isn't relevent to any conversation...the point is she is dead. Whether it was the bomb itself or the injuries sustained trying to escape the bomb is a moot point.
This indeed creates a dangerous situation. Call her what you will, but there are now a mass of people willing to fight in her memory against whoever they deem responsible (most likely the government will be the recipient of blame). Musharaf, as stated before, hasn't been able to control the dangerous factions that are present in the country. I see civil war looming on the horizon...


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Posted: 31 Dec 07, 10:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

HistoryGirl wrote:

And how she died isn't relevent to any conversation...the point is she is dead.


Well, I didn't think so, until the facts started coming out. And then changing, and changing.

Yes, she's dead, but now we have factions fighting over who's responsible, what happened, pretty much utter chaos. This son, who is taking over his Mom's position, will either be killed or silently disolve his party. This was a successful governmental overthrow of the highest nature, plain and simple. Another display of a minority faction successfully controlling the will of the people. The U.S. (and other countries) would be wise to get out now. Iran & Pakistan should be able to wipe each other out for the next 500 years or so.

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Posted: 31 Dec 07, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Gotta love the Google ads...

BHUTTO RINGTONES!

Some people really love cashing in the dead with style.


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Posted: 31 Dec 07, 12:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

people are dead. full stop. the why's and wherefores are now completely irrelevant.

the only thing that matters is the simple equation -
Pakistan has nuclear power, therefore
Pakistan + Nuclear Power = Iran with knobs on




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Posted: 31 Dec 07, 12:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:

people are dead. full stop. the why's and wherefores are now completely irrelevant.

the only thing that matters is the simple equation -
Pakistan has nuclear power, therefore
Pakistan + Nuclear Power = Iran with knobs on



Yep..sadly. If Pakistan has them I'm afraid they are going to be used and soon. I'm still hoping they do not really have them and are bluffing.


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Posted: 31 Dec 07, 14:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lisser wrote:

If Pakistan has them I'm afraid they are going to be used and soon. I'm still hoping they do not really have them and are bluffing.


They've had 'em for nearly twenty years. Just like India. Sorry to worry you.



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Posted: 31 Dec 07, 14:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was away for the holiday when this happened. I turned on the news for the weather just as the commentator said, "Benazir Bhutto is dead." The first thing I said was, "they killed her."

There was no question this was going to happen. She knew it and so did the rest of the world. How it happened - as a result of a bullet, shrapnel or blast from a bomb - is irrelevant. She was clearly with the West and spoke out against extremists. She was not a fan of Musharraf nor was he of her. She was murdered as expected and now Musharraf is in an even more difficult spot. I'm not a Musharraf groupie or anything, but I think it's fair to say he's been walking a fine line as it is with the combination of moderates and extremists in his country. That line is even finer now.

I've no idea what the answer might be, but as others have expressed here, I'm also afraid of the civil war possibility (probability?) and most importantly, the security of those weapons.

Just a few years ago, Y2K was the thing to fear. Who knows what the stroke of midnight will bring us this new year. The world we're living in is certainly a frightening place.



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Posted: 31 Dec 07, 14:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Settle down American chumleys. The world has always been a scary place, it's just that after 9/11 you can now find some of these places on the map.


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