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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 04:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There is a neuro transmitter called DMT that is naturally in our bodies and if you have enough of this molecule in the system you will LITERALLY visit another dimention, into the spirit world.

I have been an atheist for a long time but hearing about this have changed my mind on alot of things and no this isnt a joke. There are doctors who have studied this molecule and say the same thing. Many other people have experienced this spirit journey and spoken about it.

The shamans in amazon frequently use DMT to contact the spirit world. The spirit world is according to the people who have done this MORE real than this reality.

A guy who experienced DMT and tells what happenes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m51X4z1xVWE

Interview with Dr Rick Strassman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iveye75xfY0


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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 07:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Dimethyltryptamine is a naturally occurring neurotransmitter with hallucinogenic properties.

From Wikipedia:

"DMT is a powerful psychoactive substance. If DMT is smoked, injected, or orally ingested with an MAOI, it can produce powerful entheogenic experiences including intense visual hallucinations, euphoria, even true hallucinations (perceived extensions of reality).

Smoked: If DMT is smoked, the maximal effects last for a short period of time (5 to 30 minutes, dose-dependent). The onset after inhalation is very fast (less than 45 seconds) and maximal effects are reached within about a minute. The Business Man's Trip is a common name because of the relatively short duration of vaporized, insufflated, or injected DMT.

Insufflation: When DMT is insufflated (snorted through the nostrils) the duration is markedly increased, and some users report diminished euphoria for increased "spiritual" qualities of effect.

Injection: Injected DMT produces an experience similar to inhalation in duration, intensity, and characteristics.

Oral ingestion: DMT, which is broken down by the digestive enzyme monoamine oxidase, is practically inactive if taken orally, unless combined with a monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI). The traditional South American ayahuasca, or yage, is a tea mixture containing DMT and a MAOI. There are a number of admixtures to this brew, but most commonly it is simply the leaves of Psychotria viridis (containing DMT), and the vine Banisteriopsis caapi (the source of MAOI). Other DMT containing plants, including Diplopterys cabrerana, are sometimes used in ayahuasca in different areas of South America. Two common sources in the western US are Reed canary grass (Phalaris arundinacea) and Harding grass (Phalaris aquatica). In addition, Mimosa hostilis or jurema shows evidence of DMT content: the pink layer in the bark of this vine contains a high concentrations of N,N-DMT. These invasive grasses contain low levels of DMT and other alkaloids. Taken orally with an appropriate MAOI, DMT produces a long lasting (over 3 hour), slow, but deep spiritual experience. MAOIs should be used with extreme caution as they can have lethal complications with some prescription drugs, such as SSRI antidepressants, and some over-the-counter drugs."

And about the doctor you mentioned...

"Dr. Rick Strassman, while conducting DMT research in the 1990s at the University of New Mexico, advanced the theory that a massive release of DMT from the pineal gland prior to death or near death was the cause of the near death experience (NDE) phenomenon. Several of his test subjects reported NDE-like audio or visual hallucinations. His explanation for this was the possible lack of panic involved in the clinical setting and possible dosage differences between those administered and those encountered in actual NDE cases."

Some external links taken from Wikipedia:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal06.shtml

I had already heard about that tea, I know there's a religious group in a city not far away from mine that uses that tea in some special ceremonies. Some guys I know wanted to visit their temple just to experiment the tea. :P But apparently they can't randomly share the tea with tourists.


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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 07:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, that stuff.
I give that to my niece all the time. She thinks she's the first Martian colonist.

Poor kid.


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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 07:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

another dimension hey?
us "tree hugging wonkies" have been using this stuff and other similar ingredients for years.theres "specialist" shops in the area that sells it,i have a packet of "shamans pipe" in front of me [all very legal].i even took Maggie to one shop while she was here and got all my xmas/solstice presents from it.we in Cornwall just call the other dimension "Devon" though


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Oh, that stuff.
I give that to my niece all the time. She thinks she's the first Martian colonist.

Poor kid.


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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 09:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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another dimension hey?
us "tree hugging wonkies" have been using this stuff and other similar ingredients for years.theres "specialist" shops in the area that sells it,i have a packet of "shamans pipe" in front of me [all very legal].i even took Maggie to one shop while she was here and got all my xmas/solstice presents from it.we in Cornwall just call the other dimension "Devon" though


have you tried DMT?


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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 10:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Treasure Moment, putting the stupid back into wow Treasure Moment is really fucking stupid.

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Treasure Moment, putting the stupid back into wow Treasure Moment is really fucking stupid.


Im 100 times smarter than you and thats a fact, really. You are a dumb brainwashed ignorant fool without the ability of critical thinking, go back to sleep.


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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 11:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Im 100 times smarter than you and thats a fact, really.


That's just because you've got a more powerful neurotransmitter. Compensating for something?

Personally, me & Chavez Y Chavez visit the Spirit World from time to time. Your name never comes up.

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Treasure Moment wrote:

Im 100 times smarter than you and thats a fact, really.


That's just because you've got a more powerful neurotransmitter. Compensating for something?

Personally, me & Chavez Y Chavez visit the Spirit World from time to time. Your name never comes up.


you are stupid and have no credibility whatsoever.

thinks bon jovi is better than QUEEN hahaha what a joke, go back to sleep


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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 12:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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thinks bon jovi is better than QUEEN hahaha what a joke, go back to sleep


Dude, we ALL know Bon Jovi is better. Even John Stuart's Ultimate Bon Jovi Collection makes the Queen so irrelevant.

Maybe you should stick with training the Space Monkeys or whatever you do.

By the way, Jon Bon Jovi: NOT Iranian. Which makes him better than all Iranians and that is a FACT. Think about that next time you sit down to play the Tabla.

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Treasure Moment wrote:


thinks bon jovi is better than QUEEN hahaha what a joke, go back to sleep


Dude, we ALL know Bon Jovi is better. Even John Stuart's Ultimate Bon Jovi Collection makes the Queen so irrelevant.

Maybe you should stick with training the Space Monkeys or whatever you do.

By the way, Jon Bon Jovi: NOT Iranian. Which makes him better than all Iranians and that is a FACT. Think about that next time you sit down to play the Tabla.


as i said, just thinking in your mind that bon jovi even comes close to Queen takes away all your credibility forever.


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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 13:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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JoxerTheNewYearPirate wrote:

another dimension hey?
us "tree hugging wonkies" have been using this stuff and other similar ingredients for years.theres "specialist" shops in the area that sells it,i have a packet of "shamans pipe" in front of me [all very legal].i even took Maggie to one shop while she was here and got all my xmas/solstice presents from it.we in Cornwall just call the other dimension "Devon" though


have you tried DMT?


lets just say ive had a *cough* "mispent life" *cough* and the winters are long in this part of the world...


isnt innuendo an italian suppository?

im gonna ride the wild wind!

its_a_hard_life wrote:you nutcase you rule!

joxer replies: but in a nice way :-]

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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 13:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Treasure Moment wrote:

JoxerTheNewYearPirate wrote:

another dimension hey?
us "tree hugging wonkies" have been using this stuff and other similar ingredients for years.theres "specialist" shops in the area that sells it,i have a packet of "shamans pipe" in front of me [all very legal].i even took Maggie to one shop while she was here and got all my xmas/solstice presents from it.we in Cornwall just call the other dimension "Devon" though


have you tried DMT?


lets just say ive had a *cough* "mispent life" *cough* and the winters are long in this part of the world...


if you did, how was your experience?


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Posted: 03 Jan 08, 15:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sounds like LSD.

Ever heard of it?

And you're an atheist, what has that got to do with anything? What has God/god got to do with anything?


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<font color=pink>Poo wrote:

Sounds like LSD.

Ever heard of it?

And you're an atheist, what has that got to do with anything? What has God/god got to do with anything?


i just use the word atheist to say that i dont believe in organized religions gods. Im actually agnostic and with dmt who knows what i might be lol


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<font color=pink>Poo wrote:

Sounds like LSD.



thats near enough what it is.
its just a very vivid acid trip,never the same thing twice and very "intense".colours are extreme,actions bizarre.once saw my "minds eye" and tried to draw it on a wall and another time everything went sepia like an old Harold Lloyd movie.do not try it indoors or on your own.best at a festival or somewhere with flashing lights.
however the "shamens pipe" is like "pot" and can be useful if you just want to reach an "astral plain" and for meditation

not something to do on a regular basis as it can lead to mental illness and seizures if over-indulged


isnt innuendo an italian suppository?

im gonna ride the wild wind!

its_a_hard_life wrote:you nutcase you rule!

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<font color=pink>Poo wrote:

Sounds like LSD.



thats near enough what it is.
its just a very vivid acid trip,never the same thing twice and very "intense".colours are extreme,actions bizarre.once saw my "minds eye" and tried to draw it on a wall and another time everything went sepia like an old Harold Lloyd movie.do not try it indoors or on your own.best at a festival or somewhere with flashing lights.
however the "shamens pipe" is like "pot" and can be useful if you just want to reach an "astral plain" and for meditation

not something to do on a regular basis as it can lead to mental illness and seizures if over-indulged


Did you find the experience as real as this reality?


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Posted: 04 Jan 08, 10:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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<font color=pink>Poo wrote:

Sounds like LSD.

Ever heard of it?

And you're an atheist, what has that got to do with anything? What has God/god got to do with anything?


i just use the word atheist to say that i dont believe in organized religions gods. Im actually agnostic and with dmt who knows what i might be lol


Haha, then you're really fucked up.

Oh, and when I use the expression "really fucked up", I of course mean "a really smart, nice and attractive guy".


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