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Posted: 14 Jan 08, 17:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Band: QUEEN
Date: 1986.07.21
Venue: Stadthalle, Vienna, Austria
Tour: Magic Tour
Record label: SRS Records

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One more show from Magic tour.
This one was shared here once before as torrent (http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=395991) as far as I can judge from search results, which btw are not so relieable...

Anyway, 21 July 1986 Vienna, a couple of days
after gig in Cologne ... and second
time in a row Freddie forgets the lyrics
to the second verse of Radio Ga-Ga!!!
This is LOL!!!! He improvises some lalalas
and it's nothing but a plain fun!!
Unfortunately, as far as I am concerned
this is the only interesting fact about this show.
In fact, just your average Magic gig
with only one nice surprise being short
Mustapha intro and audience singing Happy
Birthday to Brian.

P.S. Oh wait, there is some more!! I mean
that track listing on the cover of bootleg
which directly says: Under Pleasure...
Tell me it is not hilarious!


Track list:

Disc 1:
01. Intro
02. One Vision
03. Tie Your Mother Down
04. In the Lap Of The God...Revisited
05. Seven Seas Of Rhye
06. Tear It Up
07. A Kind Of Magic
08. Under Pleasure (!)
09. Another One Bites The Dust
10. Mustapha (intro) - Who Wants To Live Forever
11. I Want To Break Free
12. Impromptu
13. Guitar solo
14. Now I'm Here
15. Love Of My Life
16. Is this the World We Created?
Length 64:19

Disc 2
01. You're So Square
02. Hello Mary You (!!)
03. Tutti Frutti
04. Bohemian Rhapsody
05. Hammer To Fall
06. Crazy Little Thing Called Love
07. Radio Ga Ga
08. We Will Rock You
09. Friends Will Be Friends
10. We Are The Champions
11. God Save The Queen
Length 40:17


EAC-Logs and fingerprints are included. No artwork!


http://rapidshare.com/files/83813684/1986.07.21_Vienna.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/83814896/1986.07.21_Vienna.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/83816119/1986.07.21_Vienna.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/83817389/1986.07.21_Vienna.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/83818757/1986.07.21_Vienna.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/83821046/1986.07.21_Vienna.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/83821612/1986.07.21_Vienna.part7.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/83840411/info.txt


P.S. Feel free to make a torrent of it, if there are requests. However, DO NOT feel free to share it anywhere in lossy format!!!!!!!

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Posted: 14 Jan 08, 18:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi Thanks for the share, like many Rapidshare simply does not happen for me. Can anyone put this on Torrent?

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Posted: 14 Jan 08, 19:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks a lot.

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 00:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have a first gen copy of this show, so could someone please post a small sample so I can compare it to my copy? That way we can perhaps attach some lineage to this share.



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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 02:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://rapidshare.com/files/83925865/202_Hello__Mary_You_____.wav

Since I do not know how to do samples, I uploaded 1 whole song, but a short one. I hope this is gonna make no trouble for you, Sir GH.

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 02:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks so much for sharing this! Now at last I can upgrade my old mp3 version.... I'll torrent it tonight or tomorrow, for those who aren't comfortable using Rapidshare.

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 03:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Many Thanks for this !!
And once again, thanks a lot Ginger for the torrent offer !!

Regards,

Olivier,
France.


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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 04:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Like Ginger,I only had an old mp3 version of this show. So thank you very much for this upgrade!

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 05:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I check Hello mary lou with EAC and to me the spectrum seems to be generate by a mp3 sorry

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 05:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I second Vivequeen on that, Audiochecker gives me for all files "This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%".
So this is only mp3 disguised as Flac. Some could ask whether it was made intentionnally or not, so I'm asking it first and politely. Was this bootleg taken from silvers, and did you took those files from a copy of the silvers ? Have you converted those files to mp3 at one moment (which is not shown in the lineage) ?
If someone has the silver of this show, is it possible to check if the silvers were not made from mp3s too ?

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 05:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

OK I just remember that I have this bootleg 'Live In Vienna Austria July 21, 1986' from SRS Records.
So I'm gonna check it today, and it is not mp3-sourced, I could try to upload it in real Flac this time. More news this afternoon !!

PS: Ginger, maybe you should stop the torrent for the moment !

Regards,

Olivier,
France.


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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 05:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thx for the info olivier


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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 06:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is nonosense!!!! just try to decode those FLAC files and you'll see that they are 100% lossles wav-files!
Your insults are simply ridiculous, r.o. Just get rid of that smart-ass attitude! Ever heard of EAC-Logs????? if not I recommend you and all others who do not know a thing about it to take a look at them....

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 06:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Could somebody please post here a frequency analysis ? Just to end this "discussion"

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 06:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All my apologies pokatigoroschek I would'nt heart you
the fact is that I download this concert in flac some years ago in queenzone and recently I have check this and to my surprise the flac files i have was a mp3 sourced so it possible that just like me you are download the same version of me here

It's that why I don't want to blame you or whatever because i think , you have been deceived as me



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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 07:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Please don't be offended, pokatigoroschek. I am sure it is not meant as any "personal attack" - serious collectors simply want to know what kind of files they are getting. It's discussion, not criticism.

Oh, and I know what I am talking about. The fact that files are ripped from a CD is in no way a guarantee that the files are lossless. The bootleggers may have used lossy files - that is unfortunately not too uncommon. Or, you may rip them from a CDR burnt as an audio CD from lossy files. Once the audio has been converted to mp3 (or other lossy formats), there is no way you can turn them back to what they were. You can change the format to .wav or .flac, or whatever, but you can not improve the quality by changing the format. All that happens is that the format may trick you into thinking that lossy files are lossless.

So, I truly believe that your conscience is clear, pokatigoroschek. It does not change the fact: these files are lossy. I have checked them using the spectral view in Adobe Audition, and they show the sharp cutoff at 16kHz that is typical for mp3 files.

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 07:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, and here's a screenshot. It seems you can't add attachments when you want to edit a post, so I have to double-post. ;-)


Attachment: vienna_spectral.png 508 KB
This has been downloaded 34 time(s).


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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 07:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://rapidshare.com/files/83972627/hello_mary_lou_EAC_spectrum.doc.html


sorry I don't know how to make diferently lol
I hope it works

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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 07:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hello everyone,

I checked the silver tracks. They are mp3-sourced !!! So no use to re-upload my files.
I used Audiochecker for this, and it keeps telling me MPEG sourced with probability 95%.
So we can now tell for sure that the bootleggers used lossy stuff to compile their bootleg. So this is not the best source to use for this !!

Do anyone know about a better source, a lossless one, or is this the only version available ?
If someone has a lossless version, can he tell us how he got it and if he can share this version here ?
Another question, do someone know about other bootlegs (silvers of course) that were MP3-sourced ?

thanks a lot !

Regards,
Olivier.


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Posted: 15 Jan 08, 08:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

PS : pokatigoroschek, could you please edit your post to indicate that this is lossy, to avoid anyone being mistaken ?
That's a shame that bootleggers do that to recordings. Such a pity. Nice move to share this anyway, you could not know that !!

Regards,

Olivier,
France.


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