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Posted: 18 Jan 08, 15:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just a bit bored on a Friday night, and thought I'd start a lighthearted topic:-

Ignoring the stuff with Beyonce etc.., Five and that stuff, and the Under pressure re-release, the last few new 'Queen' singles have included;

The Show Must Go On
These Are The Days Of Our Lives
No-One But You
Only the Good Die Young
Say It's Not True

I bet Freddie would be appalled at the misery and sorrow contained across this set of songs and would insist on something throwaway, lightweight and fun to be written and released??

I know that there are aspects of hope, celebration, reflection etc... in TSMGO and TATDOOL, but they're not exactly Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy, Bring Back That Leroy Brown etc.. are they!!!!

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Posted: 18 Jan 08, 16:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I definetly see what you're saying. I suppose they'd feel guilty if they were to write another song like 'Hammer To Fall' or 'Breakthru'. I bet Brian May and Roger Taylor still feel a bit awkward without Freddie Mercury, and even more so without John Deacon.


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Posted: 18 Jan 08, 16:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Perhaps it was just where their heads and hearts were, at the time.

I'm sure we can look forward to a lighter tone from the new album. Hmmmm. . .but Roger seems to write a lot about the state of the world, socially conscious topics, etc. and Brian is often introspective. But maybe they are feeling better about life in general lately. If they are having fun and feeling good, maybe that will reflect in their music.


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Posted: 18 Jan 08, 18:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Most of those songs are actually very hopeful...


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Posted: 18 Jan 08, 19:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hmmm...I wonder why their last few singles before the lead singer died of AIDS weren't happier...




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Posted: 18 Jan 08, 19:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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No-One But You
Only the Good Die Young


Same song, the other one you mentioned isn't a queen song

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Posted: 19 Jan 08, 07:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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cmsdrums wrote:


No-One But You
Only the Good Die Young


Same song, the other one you mentioned isn't a queen song


Whoops - subconcious slip!

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Posted: 19 Jan 08, 07:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:

I definetly see what you're saying. I suppose they'd feel guilty if they were to write another song like 'Hammer To Fall' or 'Breakthru'. I bet Brian May and Roger Taylor still feel a bit awkward without Freddie Mercury, and even more so without John Deacon.


Hammer to Fall is about us all dying in a nuclear war, so not really that cheery!!! :-)

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Posted: 19 Jan 08, 07:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Have you forgotten the singles from MIH? Singles like Heaven For Everyone, Let Me Live, A Winter's Tale and You Don't Fool Me aren't depressing songs (lyrically or musically). TMLWKY is sad, but in a different vein than songs like No One But You. Concerning the circumstances under which MIH was recorded, I think it's quite an optimistic album. Of course there isn't anything like Good Old Fashioned Loverboy in there, but songs like IWBTLY and YDFM are uplifting, and there's a lot of hope in many songs on MIH.

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Posted: 19 Jan 08, 07:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

August R. wrote:

Have you forgotten the singles from MIH? Singles like Heaven For Everyone, Let Me Live, A Winter's Tale and You Don't Fool Me aren't depressing songs (lyrically or musically). TMLWKY is sad, but in a different vein than songs like No One But You. Concerning the circumstances under which MIH was recorded, I think it's quite an optimistic album. Of course there isn't anything like Good Old Fashioned Loverboy in there, but songs like IWBTLY and YDFM are uplifting, and there's a lot of hope in many songs on MIH.



Yip - I agree with that - apart from Mother Love, nearly ALL of MIH is irrationally optimistic!
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Posted: 19 Jan 08, 08:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

cmsdrums wrote:

Just a bit bored on a Friday night, and thought I'd start a lighthearted topic:-

Ignoring the stuff with Beyonce etc.., Five and that stuff, and the Under pressure re-release, the last few new 'Queen' singles have included;

The Show Must Go On
These Are The Days Of Our Lives
No-One But You
Only the Good Die Young
Say It's Not True

I bet Freddie would be appalled at the misery and sorrow contained across this set of songs and would insist on something throwaway, lightweight and fun to be written and released??

I know that there are aspects of hope, celebration, reflection etc... in TSMGO and TATDOOL, but they're not exactly Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy, Bring Back That Leroy Brown etc.. are they!!!!


Queen were a DEEP band and those songs you like were just made for fun, the other songs are what Queen is really about so you are dead wrong about freddie not liking those songs.

Freddies main thing is deep sad songs.


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Posted: 20 Jan 08, 16:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I disagree, there were a few about loneliness, the loneliness that led him to lead a hedonistic lifestyle but Queen weren't lyrically deep at all. Entertaining and interesting yes.

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Posted: 24 Jan 08, 12:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Let's put this into perspective, looking at the UK single A & AA sides:

Keep Yourself Alive
The Seven Seas Of Rhye
Killer Queen
Flick Of The Wrist
Now I'm Here
Bohemian Rhapsody
You're My Best Friend
Sombody To Love
Tie Your Mother Down
Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy
We Are The Champions
Spead Your Wings
Bicycle Race
Fat Bottomed Girls
Don't Stop My Now
Love Of My Life (Live)
Crazy Little Thing Called Loved
Save Me
Play The Game
Another One Bits The Dust
Flash
Under Pressure (with David Bowie)
Body Language
Las Palabras De Amor (The Words Of Love)
Back Chat
Radio Ga Ga
I Want To Break Free
It's A Hard Life
Hammer To Fall
Thank God It's Christmas
One Vision
A Kind Of Magic
Who Wants To Live Forever
Friends Will Be Friends
I Want It All
Breakthru
The Invisible Man
Scandal
The Miracle
Innuendo
I'm Going Slightly Mad
Headlong
The Show Must Go On
These Are the Days Of Our Lives
Heaven For Everyone
A Winter's Tale
Too Much Love Will Kill You
You Don't Fool Me
Let Me Live
No One But You (Only The Good Die Young)
Say It's Not True (with Paul Rodgers)

Frankly, they're all over the place (in a good way) as far moods, styles, happy vs sad songs.

More to the point, the band's style evolved. The early days were much more experimental and some were arguably not standard pop/rock music fare (Rhapsody, Sombody To Love, Lover Boy, Rhye). By News Of The World, though, the big production numbers seem scaled back (less grandiouse, though still great). Gone were fairies, gender-swapping and the fru-fru. This was Freddie's leather era now, rock and roll with edge and occasional excess (Champions). Then came the '80s, where synths crept in and it was rock/pop pretty much through and through. By this point, they weren't writing rhapsodies. It just wasn't their thing. They experimented in their solo works and left Queen to be the radio-friendly hit-machine (again, I'm still talking singles...and in the US by now they were more or less forgotten on the radio and MTV, except maybe with Radio Ga Ga). Innuendo would be as close as they'd come to experimental on an album again and first two singles reflected it (Innuendo and Slightly Mad). Then Freddie died...Made In Heaven is hard to quantify given how the songs were assembled, but their was still diversity in the singles that came out. Yeah, you can't dance around the room to No One But You or Say It's Not True, but if "Take Love" is any indication, the new album with Paul will likely be blues/rock over pop/rock//'70s experimental.