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Posted: 23 Jan 08, 12:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Heey,This might be an stupid Question but in wich concerts did you heared overdubbs or wich concert is so badly cut that you shouldnt watch it?

And on wich bootleg or concert does freddie sound the best and on wich one the worst?


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Posted: 23 Jan 08, 12:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

innuendo1990 wrote:

Heey,This might be an stupid Question but in wich concerts did you heared overdubbs or wich concert is so badly cut that you shouldnt watch it?

And on wich bootleg or concert does freddie sound the best and on wich one the worst?


As the answer to this question is subjectively (and not factually) based - the only way to discover this sort of information - is to listen first, then make your own personal choices later.


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Posted: 23 Jan 08, 15:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And wicho of your post is the most stupid Innuendo1990 ?

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Posted: 23 Jan 08, 15:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That must have been a while ago when i said that i was gonna leave you(you ecpect that i responded back did you?)


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Posted: 23 Jan 08, 16:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

innuendo1990 wrote:

Heey,This might be an stupid Question but in wich concerts did you heared overdubbs or wich concert is so badly cut that you shouldnt watch it?

And on wich bootleg or concert does freddie sound the best and on wich one the worst?


They never did any overdubs on any of their official live releases.

Best Freddie performance.Close between Command Performance,Houston 77 and Knebworth 86.
Cant think of a bad performance.


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Posted: 23 Jan 08, 17:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You've obviously never heard One Vision off Live Magic then?! Put some headphones on and listen to Brian...


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Posted: 23 Jan 08, 18:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

innuendo1990 wrote:

Heey,This might be an stupid Question but in wich concerts did you heared overdubbs or wich concert is so badly cut that you shouldnt watch it?

And on wich bootleg or concert does freddie sound the best and on wich one the worst?


Which sentence is so badly writ that you couldn't read it?

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Posted: 23 Jan 08, 22:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:


They never did any overdubs on any of their official live releases.



Don't spread bullshit. Either you're trying to be funny or you have no idea what you're talking about; in either case, stop it!! There are nitwits out there who will read your post and actually believe it.

Compare the two versions of "One Vision" from the 2nd night at Wembley; the version off of the radio, and the one you have on your DVD. Very noticable differences. Fumbled notes by Brian were replaced, and some high notes from Freddie were added in later.


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Posted: 23 Jan 08, 23:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:

Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:


They never did any overdubs on any of their official live releases.



Don't spread bullshit. Either you're trying to be funny or you have no idea what you're talking about; in either case, stop it!! There are nitwits out there who will read your post and actually believe it.

Compare the two versions of "One Vision" from the 2nd night at Wembley; the version off of the radio, and the one you have on your DVD. Very noticable differences. Fumbled notes by Brian were replaced, and some high notes from Freddie were added in later.


Stop attacking the newbies. Just because they're ignorant doesn't mean that someone more informed should feel obligated to correct them.

The truth is, the version of One Vision on the radio broadcast was overdubbed with poorer vocals and guitar parts from the soundcheck.

;)



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Posted: 24 Jan 08, 00:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote:

Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:


They never did any overdubs on any of their official live releases.



Don't spread bullshit. Either you're trying to be funny or you have no idea what you're talking about; in either case, stop it!! There are nitwits out there who will read your post and actually believe it.

Compare the two versions of "One Vision" from the 2nd night at Wembley; the version off of the radio, and the one you have on your DVD. Very noticable differences. Fumbled notes by Brian were replaced, and some high notes from Freddie were added in later.


Stop attacking the newbies. Just because they're ignorant doesn't mean that someone more informed should feel obligated to correct them.

The truth is, the version of One Vision on the radio broadcast was overdubbed with poorer vocals and guitar parts from the soundcheck.

;)


You're absolutely right,
what I meant to say was ; The whole show was mimed anyway!
:P


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Posted: 24 Jan 08, 02:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:

Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:


They never did any overdubs on any of their official live releases.



Don't spread bullshit. Either you're trying to be funny or you have no idea what you're talking about; in either case, stop it!! There are nitwits out there who will read your post and actually believe it.

Compare the two versions of "One Vision" from the 2nd night at Wembley; the version off of the radio, and the one you have on your DVD. Very noticable differences. Fumbled notes by Brian were replaced, and some high notes from Freddie were added in later.


So you can spot sarcasism.Clever you!!!

Actually. there's quite a few instances where they've overdubbed.Live Aid and Milton Keynes to name but a few


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Posted: 24 Jan 08, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sarcasm isn't safe on Queenzone. What if innuendo1990 reads this thread? He'll think every concert release is as it was on the big day!


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Posted: 24 Jan 08, 10:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Rainbow concert seems heavily overdubbed to me.

Live Killers apparrently doesn't have overdubs, but was hacked from so many shows (even within the same song) that it's a frankenstien's monster.



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Posted: 24 Jan 08, 11:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The rainbow concert was indeed almost 50%re-recorded in the studio,And has got millions of cuts in it.


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Posted: 24 Jan 08, 11:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, you only have to watch In The Lap of the Gods to know that the Rainbow video is hardly a verbatim representation of the night...


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Posted: 24 Jan 08, 12:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They should have held Freddie's false note in Fat Bottomed Girls on the MK DVD. I dunno, I just love that note.


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Posted: 24 Jan 08, 17:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

innuendo1990 wrote:

The rainbow concert was indeed almost 50%re-recorded in the studio


On what grounds are you making such a bold statement?



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Posted: 25 Jan 08, 12:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Technicaly speaking the Rainbow gig wasnt "re-recorded" in so much as the band going into the studio and overdubbing vocals and what-not SirGH.... but backing vocals and FX from the Album multitracks were added / spun / flown in or overdubbed on to the concert itself. From what ive heard and read, this was not Queens decision to do so .. it was done by "Trident" (?) who own'd the rights to the film and their material at the time.
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Posted: 25 Jan 08, 12:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All those overdubs, editings and mixing etc on official releases is one of the reasons I like audience recordings so much ;-)


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Posted: 25 Jan 08, 12:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yeah i love audience recordings:D
By the way im downloading Queen live at paris the QTV version,How many cutts does it have?,ANd are they easy to see?


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