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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 00:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

which albums worse flash gordon or hot space


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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 04:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Apart from The Hero and Flash I only look at the album Flash Gordon as a soundtrack album and not a stand alone album. As a soundtrack album it works very well, in my opinion.
I don't think Hot Space is as bad as many people make out. Compared to any other Queen albums the music does sound a little dated in places, where as other Queen albums just seem to be timeless. I like the album a lot, it was one of my favourites at one point. Freddies vocals are fab throughout. If you try not to compare it to other Queen albums it's a good album in it's own right. If you view it along with the rest of the catalogue it shows the bands development and their willingness to try new things.
Love it or hate it, it's part of their history and a much welcome addition to my collection.

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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 07:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Flash Gordon is a sndtrk release. A true one at that. It has been said that A Kind Of Magic is a sndtrk release but Flash is more so. Flash is a collection of short little snippets that are mostly built around sound effects that enhanse the scene of the movie.

It's somewhat unfair to compair it to a regular studio release.

I about crapped my drawrs when I heard Hot Space for the 1st time. I head the "disco" songs and was in shock. "What is this crap I'm hearing". YEARS later those disco songs are my faves off the record as the rest of the lp just doesn't have the drive.

There are good songs, Put Out The Fire, Action, ect. But the Lenon tribute song, Cool Cat, Words of Love, Calling All Girls are OK but they don't hit you like a usual Queen song does.

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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 08:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree with the above post but I was 16 when it came out and I was used to hearing Tie Your Mother Down, We WIll Rock You etc. then we got hit with Hot Space and I being one of the kids back then that idolized them, and still do, it was quite a drastic change from what we were used to getting from them. It made me kind of lose a little interest for a period but I never turned my back on them!

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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 08:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For a long time I didnt like The Miracle. Infact I hated it. For me, it was Queen just going through the motions. When I first heard it, there wasnt as many outstanding tracks save for Breakthru, and I want It All. These days, I dont mind it as much.


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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 08:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like Flash Gordon as a soundtrack album. I like Hot Space as well but I think the problem with that album is the engineering. The songs, for the most part, are well written. The instrumentation used is the weak area. I realize they were coming off The Game album trying to strip down their sound but Hot Space is a plateau in the Queen sound.


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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 10:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Works for me.


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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 10:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hands down their worst offering is “A kind of magic”
I find this album to be absolutely boring & uninspired. It contains two of their all time worst songs “Pain is so close to pleasure & “One year of love”
They couldn’t even make up their mind whether this should have been a soundtrack or not. At least with “Hot space” they tried something different, but here they simply went through the motions and ended up sounding like any other Euro-trash-Synth-Band of that era. This album is a complete embarrassment. Even the cover art is a joke!



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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 11:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My top worst album list...

1. Flash Gordon (if you count it)
2. Miracle
3. Hot Space
4. A Kind of Magic
5. Jazz




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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 12:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Flash is OK for a soundtrack and fits in well with the movie, but it's not really worth more than one listen in its entirety.

The mistake with Hot Space was trying to do everything in house and not bring in a disco producer or someone who was used to making records with the sounds that Queen were chasing. The best parts are the most Queen sounding. Queen could take in other musical styles and use them in records but only to a point. Hot Space went too far.

Don't know which is worse. Both have serious flaws as albums.

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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 12:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

louvox wrote:

“Pain is so close to pleasure & “One year of love”


Don't forget 'dont lose your head'! 'One Year Of Love' has one of Freddies best ever vocals.

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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 12:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would have to say the Works, as it was the first album that was totally formulaic. Every song on that album has a previous Queen song as a reference point, ultimately the first Queen album with no new ideas.


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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 13:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

apart from Flash and Hot Space..the worst album is "A kind of Magic",(too weak, to pop) of course One Vision is fucking great....and.."One year of love" is a great song wiht Freddie best ever vocal, totally!

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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 13:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Champipple wrote:

My top worst album list...

1. Flash Gordon (if you count it)
2. Miracle
3. Hot Space
4. A Kind of Magic
5. Jazz




Waht type of a Queen fan are you if you put A kind Of Magic and The Miricle in your worst top 5 list.


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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 14:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Champipple wrote:

My top worst album list...

5. Jazz



i can't believe what i see....????
Jazz is full of excellent 3-4 min pop songs

dead on time / bicycle race / fatbottomed girls / dreamer's ball / jealousy / don't stop me now...this album is Queen's "Rubber Soul"

give it a real chance with no distractions...and turn it up loud


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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 14:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the miracel and flat guy i think

i dont like flat guy becoase its only freddie merc. and no other queen memembers


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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 14:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A kind of magic by far is the worst album put out by Queen.

There are 2 good songs on there, One Vision and WWTLF...that's pretty much it.

And the artwork for the LP didnt help either. Awful. Everytime I see those blue characatures of the band i want to rip my eyeballs out.


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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 14:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 18:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

louvox wrote:

Hands down their worst offering is “A kind of magic”
I find this album to be absolutely boring & uninspired. It contains two of their all time worst songs “Pain is so close to pleasure & “One year of love”
They couldn’t even make up their mind whether this should have been a soundtrack or not. At least with “Hot space” they tried something different, but here they simply went through the motions and ended up sounding like any other Euro-trash-Synth-Band of that era. This album is a complete embarrassment. Even the cover art is a joke!


I totally agree with that.

AKOM is Queen's MOST BORING album. Really, I would rather listen to Flash Gordon and -ironically- Live Magic, back to back. At least I get to listen to the crowd of Knebworth there.

I used to find Jazz boring, but I thought the same about Queen II's black side, back when I only had the vinyl and I couldn't tell when one song began, long instrumentals, etc. Now I like them, of course.

But really... A Kind of Magic is DULL!

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Posted: 13 Feb 08, 20:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bmay01 wrote:

which albums worse flash gordon or hot space

AKOM... much worse than those two put together... at least tehy TRIED to do sth on FLASH and/or HOT SPACE... Every time I hear ONE YEAR or FRIENDS WILL BE... I can't believe musicians like Mercury or May could commit anything as bad...

mooghead wrote: 'One Year Of Love' has one of Freddies best ever vocals.


I disagree. Just because he hits the high notes doesn't mean his singing is great. he's overdoing it IMO... style over substance