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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 04:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As promised, here is the first year of the "project". This time I will share 2 concerts, the first one is from Golders Green Hippodrome in London, 13. September 1973 and Liverpool stadium 17. November 1973.




Band : Queen
Venue : Golders Green Hippodrome, London, UK
Date : 13. September 1973

This is a 3-source compilation of this great recording.
This is the oldest Queen live recording which made it to the bootleg market.
Two older recordings are rumoured - Ewell College 1971 and Marquee Club 1972,
but it seems that Ewell College doesn't exist (the recording is actually a
slowed-down version of the rock'n'roll medley coming from this concert), and
the Marquee 72 recording was sold to Queen Productions (but they claim now that
the don't have it), which means that this is the oldest Queen show we can get.
The performance is incredibble. The sound quality is absolutely excellent, the
only problem is that Freddie's vocal is mixed too low, it sounds like the band
is standing right before you, but Freddie sings from another room. But still
it's very enjoyable.

This show was bootleged many, many times, but never in complete form. The most
complete version comes from the "Digital Queen Archives" bootleg called "Queen
Will Be Crowned", which misses one line from the introduction, and has a couple
of small few seconds cuts. When this recording was shared on QueenZone
(http://www.queenzone.com), QZ user "stark" remastered it and shared it again.
This remaster was used by me in this project as "source 1".

My "source 2" was a different rebroadcast of this show, I used only one line
from the intro from this source.

My "source 3" comes from the "Wardour" silver bootleg called "Pop Spectacular".
This recording has much, much better sound quality then all other recodings,
because it comes from a BBC Transcription disc. The bad thing is that it misses
a big part of Father To Son, some speeches, See What A Fool I've Been and all
songs after Liar.

I have used all 3 sources to create this compilation which is now for the very
first time COMPLETE and every track has BEST AVAILABLE SOUND QUALITY.
The editing was done in Cool Edit Pro. The final wav file was split to single
tracks, which were SBE fixed and encoded to FLAC with Trader's Little Helper.
TLH was also used for FLAC fingerprints. I have added an Audiochecker log file.
Enjoy

Lineup :

Freddie Mercury - vocals
Roger Meddows-Taylor - percussion
Deacon John - bass
Brian May - guitar

Lineage :

Source 1 : SBD > BBC radio > ? > "Queen Will Be Crowned" (Digital Queen
Archives) silvers > EAC > WAV > FLAC (Flac Frontend level 8) > WAV >
Har-bal > Wavelab > FLAC (Flac Frontend level 8) - marked as *

Source 2 : SBD > BBC radio (unknown rebroadcast) > ? > CDR (x) - marked as **

Source 3 : SBD > BBC Transcription disc > ? > "Pop Spectacular" (Wardour)
silver - marked as ***

Tracklist :
1. Introduction (***, one line filled from **)
2. Procession (***)
3. Father To Son (***, gaps filled with *)
4. Son And Daughter (***, end from *)
5. Queen and synthesisers (*)
6. See What A Fool I've Been (*)
7. Ogre Battle (***)
8. Band Introduction (***)
9. Liar (***, end from *)
10. Jailhouse Rock (*)
11. Big Spender (*)
12. Bama Lama Bama Loo (*, end from ***)


Download links :

http://rapidshare.com/files/98906810/1973-09-13-London_UK_1.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/?mtdbrevdqtx
http://www.mediafire.com/?6wxdtrnzvqt

More information http://www.queenlive.ca/queen/73-09-13.htm





Band : Queen
Venue : Stadium, Liverpool, UK
Date : 13. September 1973

Lineage : Ken Testi's Master Cassette > WAV > CDR

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 05:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good job Pittrek!

I think the Portland's gig and the Rainbows one (in March) are both good shows in the 2nd tour.
Cologne in december too.

And just a idea: don't you believe it could be better to separate each topic by tour instead of by year?

Whatever thx for everything!
take care

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 05:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for your work Pittrek, no the first year is online. I will have to wait before downloading but I am sure you made a very good job on this !

As far as 1974 is concerned, no doubt Portland could be shared in your "The Best Of the Best Of Concerts" series.

Regards,

Olivier,
France.


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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 06:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much.
I already have Liverpool, as it was shared recently, november?
I guess this version should be rated, as the definitive version then? :-)



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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 06:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks.
This is great!

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 07:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for this great shows.For the next year Portland is the best.I have it and it's brilliant.

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 08:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great uploads! Essential for 1974 are indeed the Portland show and the best march Rainbow version. And Cologne is pretty good aswell. All these shows have been online in recent times though.


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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 09:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for all the comments.

-----> Could somebody create some artwork for this ? <-----------------------------------------------


My plan for 1974 (next week) would be SirGH's 3 source compilation of Rainbow March 74 (no, it wasn't shared here I think) - if Bob has nothing against it, Portland 74 - I'm not sure if it was shared here in non-torrent form, and maybe I'll reupload my speed corrected version of Cologne ?

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 10:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The only difference in my version is a few seconds taken from the video of Son And Daughter. Is it really worth it...!?? :)



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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 10:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thank you!


you don't want to heare it?...if you don't wanna here it,fucking go home!

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 11:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much !!!!
I'll take a try with FLAC files....but somebody can tell me how to burn FLAC directly into an Audio cd? I get a "plug in" just like Olivier suggested to me, but I don't know how to install it with my Nero 7 (it's a .ddl file, extension of the aplication).
Another question, maybe silly for some of you: If I can't burn FLAC directly and I have to convert them to WAV firstly, does it loses quality? I notify Wav is more heavier than FLAC but...Is the quality the same to make a losless audio cd?
Thanks again Pittrek for your idea of "Best of the best" and your excellent post. Sorry my english.
Cheers!!!


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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 11:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bo Alex wrote:

Another question, maybe silly for some of you: If I can't burn FLAC directly and I have to convert them to WAV firstly, does it loses quality? I notify Wav is more heavier than FLAC but...Is the quality the same to make a losless audio cd?


FLAC is like a WinZip file. It makes the file smaller without losing any quality/information. So you can go back and forth as many times as you'd like and it will sound the same. Download a program called "FLAC Frontend" to convert them to WAV, and from there you can burn the WAV files to CD.



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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 11:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The only difference in my version is a few seconds taken from the video of Son And Daughter. Is it really worth it...!?? :)

Yes, it is :-) I'm trying to put here the best (allowed) versions

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 11:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It would be interesting to have a history of these recordings.For example when(the year) it has showed up on the bootleg market, or in collectors circuit.When did the complete recording appeared, if it was incomplete before etc.It's possible ?


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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 11:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Bo Alex wrote:

Another question, maybe silly for some of you: If I can't burn FLAC directly and I have to convert them to WAV firstly, does it loses quality? I notify Wav is more heavier than FLAC but...Is the quality the same to make a losless audio cd?


FLAC is like a WinZip file. It makes the file smaller without losing any quality/information. So you can go back and forth as many times as you'd like and it will sound the same. Download a program called "FLAC Frontend" to convert them to WAV, and from there you can burn the WAV files to CD.

Or if you want to burn an audio CD with Nero, there is a free flac plugin available which will "teach" Nero how to work with flac files.
Or use a program which supports burning audio cds from flac files

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 12:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH!!!!!

GREAT IDEA :)

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 12:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Finally, I get the plugin to burn FLAC directly. (with Nero into an audio cd).
Here you can download it.
http://www.bitburners.com/software/flac-v10033/3816/
And here are the instructions to unzip the .ddl file:
"Usage instructions:


Download the plugins you need
Nero Burning ROM version 5.5.9.0 or higher is required for all plugins.
For Nero version 5, unzip the plugin DLL into "...\Ahead\Shared\AudioPlugins" directory.
For Nero version 6, unzip the plugin DLL into "\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\AudioPlugins" directory.
Do not rename the files - The first two letters of the plugin DLL name must be "nx" in lower case, otherwise it won't be recognized by Nero Burning ROM.

works fine"

I still have a doubt about Flac: Level 8 is lossless than level 1 (I mean it's better) or level 1 is better than level 8? Sorry for that stupid question, but I stil need some more information.

Thanks Sir Gh and pitrek for your answers...




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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 12:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nice work pittrek.


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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 12:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bo Alex wrote:


...I still have a doubt about Flac: Level 8 is lossless than level 1 (I mean it's better) or level 1 is better than level 8? Sorry for that stupid question, but I stil need some more information.


Level 1 is less lossless than Level 8... but more lossless than mp3! ;-)

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Posted: 12 Mar 08, 12:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

NickName wrote:

Bo Alex wrote:


...I still have a doubt about Flac: Level 8 is lossless than level 1 (I mean it's better) or level 1 is better than level 8? Sorry for that stupid question, but I stil need some more information.


Level 1 is less lossless than Level 8... but more lossless than mp3! ;-)


Thanks, now I got it.So the better available is level 8.


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