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Posted: 13 Mar 08, 18:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wanted to keep a discussion thread going. I noticed that when threads get around 8-9 pages the forum itself cant keep up. So I figured Id start a new one...
Anyway here is that article that I beleive explains where all these multi-tracks are coming from...
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/fxcopyroom.htm

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Posted: 13 Mar 08, 18:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Are there any other confirmed multitracks out there that might be released someday that we know if? I don't know if this goes off the topic but it'd be great if any piano pieces made their way as hearing a solo piano acoustic of a song is just amazing :)

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Posted: 14 Mar 08, 16:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, there are. Im sure many have heard of the NIN album being released complete with all the multis for every song.
I personally dont really like NIN that much. But I will be "buying" the album with multis as a form of support. The only type that the record companies recognize. Money.
Im sure alot of people that have read my posts have been thinking...Man Id buy these if they were for sale. Well this is your chance to tell the record companies and artists that People DO WANT multis.
If this NIN album does well. And they end up attributing it to the fact that people bought it for the multis...Well thats a good thing for people like us who want artists to release their multis commercially...
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Posted: 14 Mar 08, 18:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I got some Nine inch nails multis:
Nine Inch Nails - Capital G
Nine Inch Nails - God Given
Nine Inch Nails - Me, I'm Not
Nine Inch Nails - My Violent Heart
Nine Inch Nails - Only
Nine Inch Nails - Survivalism
Nine Inch Nails - The Beginning Of The End
Nine Inch Nails - The Hand That Feeds
Nine Inch Nails - Vessel
All are wav.

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Posted: 14 Mar 08, 18:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The point of my last post was to say. If you are like me and want more artists to release multi tracks of their stuff you should consider buying this album. Thats the only way it can become a "thing" for cool artists to do. Like I said. I dont even like them but I want to stand up and say. If you offer this type of thing I will buy it...
Think about it.
If we trade these for free then we lose the chance to say something to the record companies( I do realize that NIN is on their own or without a major record label backing). But it still says something.
Most of us always say to ourselves, "Man if they just sold these I would buy them...but they dont so I gotta do what I gotta do."
Well here is the chance...
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Posted: 17 Mar 08, 11:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for this thread.

This has been discussed around other bands forum. I think most fans play it safe by saying "it won't happen" (multitracks masters as official releases), but this is a brand new music approach that would be very profitable for artists.

Pioneers like Peter Gabriel, Brian Eno, etc has offered multitracks online for remixes competitions. It was a very powerful concept, but in a very quiet way too.

So far, there's no physical release of a complete album multitracked.

My statement is simple: why not?. Times are changing, fans want different material to keep them interested, and the multitracks would become the flavour of the month.

It's just matter of time: think what happened with Radiohead last year. Prior their shocking In Rainbows move, everyone could have thought "my God, are they nuts?. That's a commercial suicide" ... after the highly succesful "pay whatever you want, it's up to you, even for free" strategy, the physical album went number one in UK and USA.

The first band or artist in releasing the physical multitracks will catch the fire. Everyone after that would have no follow other to copy the pioneer.

Part of the great success of the "Classic Albums" DVD series has been the unique look at the albums, with engineers revealing multitracks sections that sound astounding. Alan Parsons revealing Dark Side Of The Moon comes to mind right now.

It's a pity Brian May can't dig it. After all the fanbase hype and excitement about multitracks, Brian May should have done something smarter than trying to shut down sites, torrents and links containing files

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Posted: 17 Mar 08, 12:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think i got a complete list of official multitracks:

Afro Celts Sound System - My Secret Bliss
Angelique Kidjo Feat Peter Gabriel - Salala
Arcade Fire - Black Mirror
Brian Eno & David Byrne - A Secret Life
Brian Eno & David Byrne - Help Me Somebody
Imagined Village - Cold Hailey Rainy Night
Joi - What You Are
Little Axe - If I Had My Way
Los De Abajo - La Resistencia
Nine Inch Nails - Capital G
Nine Inch Nails - God Given
Nine Inch Nails - Me, I'm Not
Nine Inch Nails - My Violent Heart
Nine Inch Nails - Only
Nine Inch Nails - Survivalism
Nine Inch Nails - The Beginning Of The End
Nine Inch Nails - The Hand That Feeds
Nine Inch Nails - Vessel
Peter Gabriel - Shock The Monkey
Rizwan Muazzam Qawwali & Temple Of Sound - Peoples Colony No 1
Roger Taylor - One Night Stand
Saul Williams - Banged And Blown Through
Saul Williams - Break
Sevara - Kunlarim

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Posted: 17 Mar 08, 13:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

NIN released 4 tracks from the With Teeth album in multi-track and the FULL Year Zero album (every track!) as a bonus to the Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D album.

The new Ghots I-IV double album will also be released with multi-tracks of all 36 tracks.

All available in ANY format you wish.


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Posted: 17 Mar 08, 15:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ooh I want the Peter Gabriel one..


Is there really a multitrack version going round of One night Stand?


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Posted: 17 Mar 08, 16:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Ooh I want the Peter Gabriel one..


Is there really a multitrack version going round of One night Stand?
As far as I've seen, there are only samples.


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Posted: 17 Mar 08, 18:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Ooh I want the Peter Gabriel one..


All you gotta do is go to http://www.realworldremixed.com and register, and Shock the Monkey is still available as well as others.

It's not 'multitracks' per se though, it's in parts which need to be looped or edited together. 116 MB download for the wav version.

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Posted: 18 Mar 08, 01:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ponkine wrote:

Thanks for this thread.

This has been discussed around other bands forum. I think most fans play it safe by saying "it won't happen" (multitracks masters as official releases), but this is a brand new music approach that would be very profitable for artists.

Pioneers like Peter Gabriel, Brian Eno, etc has offered multitracks online for remixes competitions. It was a very powerful concept, but in a very quiet way too.

So far, there's no physical release of a complete album multitracked.

My statement is simple: why not?. Times are changing, fans want different material to keep them interested, and the multitracks would become the flavour of the month.

It's just matter of time: think what happened with Radiohead last year. Prior their shocking In Rainbows move, everyone could have thought "my God, are they nuts?. That's a commercial suicide" ... after the highly succesful "pay whatever you want, it's up to you, even for free" strategy, the physical album went number one in UK and USA.

The first band or artist in releasing the physical multitracks will catch the fire. Everyone after that would have no follow other to copy the pioneer.

Part of the great success of the "Classic Albums" DVD series has been the unique look at the albums, with engineers revealing multitracks sections that sound astounding. Alan Parsons revealing Dark Side Of The Moon comes to mind right now.

It's a pity Brian May can't dig it. After all the fanbase hype and excitement about multitracks, Brian May should have done something smarter than trying to shut down sites, torrents and links containing files

Cheers


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Posted: 18 Mar 08, 02:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Ooh I want the Peter Gabriel one..


Is there really a multitrack version going round of One night Stand?


There is small loop clips avaible on roger's website: http://queen-fip.com/rt_site/audio/22khz/samples.zip

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Posted: 18 Mar 08, 14:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

REM are going to release their already critically claimed new album "Accelerate" in 1st April.

It has been leaked elsewhere, and it seems the band hasn't cared about that. In fact, they're encoraging their fans to do something really cool, exciting and unique:

Remix the Supernatural Superserious video

They've created a youtube board on which fans can upload their own versions of Supernatural Superserius videos http://youtube.com/remsuperserious

Everyday fans come up with new and quite fantastic videos


You can get the original cuts on http://www.supernaturalsuperserious.com/ and then remix your own video
Click on each number and you'll be able to download all the 11 zip folders, with a different video each one

and on this site you can download everyday a different official clip
http://ninetynights.com/

Moreorer, you can download from videos #4, 5, 6, 7, 8 & 9 nice unplugged versions

Downloading Unplugged #7 right now

AND EVERYTHING'S FOR FREE!



Now Brian May... bring on the multitracks before anyone else!


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Posted: 18 Mar 08, 17:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry i wanted to post this in this thread...


Its time for Established artists "Classic rock" to start being a little bit more reasonable and hip. The cool new thing is Multitracks. The First major band that releases "Classic" material is gonna be considered "Rock Gods". Right now NIN is getting a ton of hype. Basically they are adapting the 1000 fans motto.
You basically take the album and box it up in a bunch of different ways and each market buys it the way they want...
example...
You make the CD.
You make it available for DL on the Net...
You make a DVD of Multitracks for sale...
You make it in Vinyl...
And others...
This way the album doesnt need to be mega popular to be a success...
discuss...

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Posted: 19 Mar 08, 06:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

poopchute wrote:

Sorry i wanted to post this in this thread...


Its time for Established artists "Classic rock" to start being a little bit more reasonable and hip. The cool new thing is Multitracks. The First major band that releases "Classic" material is gonna be considered "Rock Gods". Right now NIN is getting a ton of hype. Basically they are adapting the 1000 fans motto.
You basically take the album and box it up in a bunch of different ways and each market buys it the way they want...
example...
You make the CD.
You make it available for DL on the Net...
You make a DVD of Multitracks for sale...
You make it in Vinyl...
And others...
This way the album doesnt need to be mega popular to be a success...
discuss...

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Well, the problem is not the bands, mostly. It's the recordcompanies that are not up to it.

But then again: bands indeed should have the guts, like Trent Reznor had, to say bye bye to their company and do everything by themselves.

He releases everything by himself, then 'offers' labels the oppertunity to release the stuff in shop-ready packages. On HIS terms. If a company doesn't agree, he goes somewhere else. But companies ARE smart enough to take such offers.

This should be the future. It's not companies that come first - it's the art that comes first. It's not the way it is now; sign a contract and then make music. It should be Artist creates and THEN finds someone that wants to release it. If one does not find anybody (with a well-known name this seems pretty unlikely though), there is always the oppertunity to stick to the internet-only-option.

For one it will be beneficial to the artistic part of the music. The artist gives himself full freedom to create what he or she feels - not what the company wants.
NIN's new album (a double instrumental album) would NEVER have been released in a regular label-situation. Companies hate double-albums and instrumental albums even more.


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