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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 12:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brought to my attention by a friend and fellow Queenphile... anyone else notice how similar the main riff of "C-Lebrity" is to the main riff from "The Metal" by Tenacious D? I mean, it's VERY VERRY close...
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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 12:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian May tried to kill the metal, but the metal had its way.

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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 12:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Funny you should say that, This Saturday just gone, I was in my car listening to my newly ripped version of C-Lebrity, when my cousin stated the same thing, "It's the riff from "The Metal" he said. Well not being familier with that track I could not comment, but since listening to it, YES very Simular indeed. Maybe Roger is a Jack Black Fan?


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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 12:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It also sounds like Touch of Evil by Judas Priest.

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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 12:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't want to call Brian on plagiarism here (he is my hero, after all) but it's sooo close... it's kind of like Steve Miller's "the Stake" ripping off "Rocky Mountain Way", only in that case it was a flat out rip-off.

Worst case scenario, I'll blame Paul for it.


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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 13:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If I sat down and had a listen to the last 30 years worth of rock riffs, I could probably find older instances of a riff like this than Tenacious D....


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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 13:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

PieterMC wrote:

It also sounds like Touch of Evil by Judas Priest.
Exactly

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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 13:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

pittrek wrote:

PieterMC wrote:

It also sounds like Touch of Evil by Judas Priest.
Exactly


Well then let's accuse Brian of stealing from Judas Priest. That somehow seems a little more dignified that stealing from Jack Black.

Otherwise, by all means, let the Queenzone community's character assassination of Brian May continue unabated ... he's such a deliciously evil and deserving target of our scorn.

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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 14:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hope The D won't succumb to Brian's Curse :(

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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 15:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr Faron Hyte wrote:

pittrek wrote:

PieterMC wrote:

It also sounds like Touch of Evil by Judas Priest.
Exactly


Well then let's accuse Brian of stealing from Judas Priest. That somehow seems a little more dignified that stealing from Jack Black.

Otherwise, by all means, let the Queenzone community's character assassination of Brian May continue unabated ... he's such a deliciously evil and deserving target of our scorn.


Of course. The rotter... (insert sarcasm face)

Just wondering if anyone else caught the similarity. No true scorn intended.

Brian's always been one of the most innovative guitar players around - he wouldn't outright steal a riff. He wouldn't need to. This one just happens to sound like something else, that's all. Not exactly, but close.

I'm sure, eons ago, a caveman hit two logs and grunted, thereby halfway composing WWRY... doesn't make that one stolen either...

Besides, aren't we supposed to be heaping the scorn on Greg Brooks? :)


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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 15:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pim Derks wrote:

I hope The D won't succumb to Brian's Curse :(


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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 16:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's practically impossible to escape from plagiarism these days. Rock musicians are bound to copy each other regardless of whether they know it or not.


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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 16:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=black face=biondi>Steven wrote:

It's practically impossible to escape from plagiarism these days. Rock musicians are bound to copy each other regardless of whether they know it or not.


I guess everybody should just give up writing music since there is nothing original left to create.

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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 17:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i felt the same thing, but i still love the track


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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 17:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Like Tenacious D's track? No.
Like Judas Priest's track...yes, there's a similarity in the riff and way it's played. But apart from that, not a big deal. It's true you can't come up with much that's new these days, but Brian has done plenty great stuff before.
I'll never forget the time I created a great riff by myself and thought, "YES!" But then I stuck on Dead On Time and while it wasn't the same, it had a similar vibe about it. Damn... :( But hey, who cares?

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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 22:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it's not stolen it's Brian's riff

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Posted: 07 Apr 08, 23:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

theCro wrote:

it's not stolen it's Brian's riff


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Posted: 08 Apr 08, 00:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Despite being a Judas Priest fan, I can't say that I'm super familiar with that song. Furthermore, anybody here with a brain can see that this song is primarily Roger's creation. Roger plays guitar too; So, how can anyone go to assume that if there's a catchy riff in the song that Brian automatically wrote it? Remember the guitar parts that Freddie wrote for Brian to play? As far as the riff being stolen...I say Led Zeppelin is far more guilty of 'stealing' riffs than Queen. Not to knock Zeppelin either, I am keen to their music. But let's all be fair about this.


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Posted: 08 Apr 08, 02:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Group hug, come on.
Rock is about stealing riffs. I did it last year, nobody cared. It's a rock song; riffs can only be a certain number of notes long before they get boring, and you've only got x number of keys that people will enjoy listening to, etcetera.

And again; stealing from Tenacious D????

I love Jack Black but let's be clear; he's a parody artist, more or less.


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Posted: 08 Apr 08, 02:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Haggis McShagPants wrote:

I love Jack Black but let's be clear; he's a parody artist, more or less.
That doesn't make him a bad musician, though.


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