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Posted: 30 Apr 08, 01:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo albums? What are they lacking? I'm being serious in this topic.

FREDDIE'S LOVE BALLADS.

What happened? That's something I've always been a bit bitter about, that they hadn't any nice Freddie ballads, and that Freddie didn't really write the biggest hits (on AKOM and The Miracle).

Also, why didn't Freddie write many songs for the A Kind Of Magic album? I remember a quote, back in 1983 or '84 on that Lisa Robinson show (I think it was), and he said "They leave me to wardrobe, and writing the hits"... what's up with that?

Also, how likely do you think it is that the rest of Queen will someday finish up an unreleased song with Freddie on vocals and release it? Do you think they'll ever attempt it?


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Posted: 30 Apr 08, 02:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jacob Britt wrote:

A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo albums? What are they lacking? I'm being serious in this topic.

FREDDIE'S LOVE BALLADS.

What happened? That's something I've always been a bit bitter about, that they hadn't any nice Freddie ballads, and that Freddie didn't really write the biggest hits (on AKOM and The Miracle).

Also, why didn't Freddie write many songs for the A Kind Of Magic album? I remember a quote, back in 1983 or '84 on that Lisa Robinson show (I think it was), and he said "They leave me to wardrobe, and writing the hits"... what's up with that?

Also, how likely do you think it is that the rest of Queen will someday finish up an unreleased song with Freddie on vocals and release it? Do you think they'll ever attempt it?
His solo album Mr. Bad Guy Released the year before magic took many of his songs. I think man made paradise and love me like there's no tomorrow/I was born to love you would have made the album much stronger. The song
"the miracle" was mainly a freddie song, though they all contributed, and He also wrote the song "don't try so hard" from Innuendo which was a great ballad. Don't forget he wrote "a winter's tale" from made in heaven.

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A great piano ballad would have helped The Miracle album a lot. From what we've heard, A New Life Is Born could have turned into a great Freddie ballad, had they continued working with the idea. The odd thing is that they also dropped Brian's TMLWKY, leaving the album without any great ballad.

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A New Life Is Born could have turned into a great Freddie ballad


Indeed, it's the first true Nevermore/Lily of the Valley type song that he appeared to have written since the 70's... would've been a nice bit of retro stuff.



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A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo albums? What are they lacking?


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Posted: 30 Apr 08, 22:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jacob Britt wrote:

A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo albums? What are they lacking? I'm being serious in this topic.

FREDDIE'S LOVE BALLADS.

What happened? That's something I've always been a bit bitter about, that they hadn't any nice Freddie ballads, and that Freddie didn't really write the biggest hits (on AKOM and The Miracle).

Also, why didn't Freddie write many songs for the A Kind Of Magic album? I remember a quote, back in 1983 or '84 on that Lisa Robinson show (I think it was), and he said "They leave me to wardrobe, and writing the hits"... what's up with that?

Also, how likely do you think it is that the rest of Queen will someday finish up an unreleased song with Freddie on vocals and release it? Do you think they'll ever attempt it?


Maybe Freddie was just kind of burnt out. Most of the best and most memorable Queen stuff from the 80s were the domain of "the other three". So maybe after the brilliant and amazingly prolific run he had throughout the 70s, Freddie's song writing mojo had started to dry up.

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Jacob Britt wrote:

A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo albums? What are they lacking? I'm being serious in this topic.

FREDDIE'S LOVE BALLADS.

What happened? That's something I've always been a bit bitter about, that they hadn't any nice Freddie ballads, and that Freddie didn't really write the biggest hits (on AKOM and The Miracle).

Also, why didn't Freddie write many songs for the A Kind Of Magic album? I remember a quote, back in 1983 or '84 on that Lisa Robinson show (I think it was), and he said "They leave me to wardrobe, and writing the hits"... what's up with that?

Also, how likely do you think it is that the rest of Queen will someday finish up an unreleased song with Freddie on vocals and release it? Do you think they'll ever attempt it?


Maybe Freddie was just kind of burnt out. Most of the best and most memorable Queen stuff from the 80s were the domain of "the other three". So maybe after the brilliant and amazingly prolific run he had throughout the 70s, Freddie's song writing mojo had started to dry up.


He came up with some great songs on A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo, as well as Made In Heaven, but it seems he just didn't write the good old love ballads he used to write.


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Jacob Britt wrote:

A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo albums? What are they lacking? I'm being serious in this topic.

FREDDIE'S LOVE BALLADS.

What happened? That's something I've always been a bit bitter about, that they hadn't any nice Freddie ballads, and that Freddie didn't really write the biggest hits (on AKOM and The Miracle).

Also, why didn't Freddie write many songs for the A Kind Of Magic album? I remember a quote, back in 1983 or '84 on that Lisa Robinson show (I think it was), and he said "They leave me to wardrobe, and writing the hits"... what's up with that?

Also, how likely do you think it is that the rest of Queen will someday finish up an unreleased song with Freddie on vocals and release it? Do you think they'll ever attempt it?
His solo album Mr. Bad Guy Released the year before magic took many of his songs. I think man made paradise and love me like there's no tomorrow/I was born to love you would have made the album much stronger. The song
"the miracle" was mainly a freddie song, though they all contributed, and He also wrote the song "don't try so hard" from Innuendo which was a great ballad. Don't forget he wrote "a winter's tale" from made in heaven.


Yeah, he had some great ballads on Mr. Bad Guy (Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow is my favorite solo song of his), but his love ballads are missing on the later albums. Don't Trust So Hard and A Winter's Tale are great songs but not in the same category love ballads that he used to write such as You Take My Breath Away, It's A Hard Life, Play The Game, etc.


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What happened? That's something I've always been a bit bitter about, that they hadn't any nice Freddie ballads, and that Freddie didn't really write the biggest hits (on AKOM and The Miracle).


Not so much AKOM, but that is where they started writing as "Queen" and not individually. That totally changed everything!!! I've always thought Pain Is So Close was just about there, but is it possible that too many hands were on this one? That's probably the reason for the solo album, too.

A similar thing happened to Fleetwood Mac in 1987. There was no plan to release an album, but Lindsay Buckingham had nearly enough songs to release his 3rd solo album. Mick Fleetwood and Richard Daushut had a couple songs they wanted his help on, and after getting together, they decided they had enough material for an album.

A lot of those songs on Tango In The Night are played and sung entirely by Lindsay, because he didn't want band input... Big Love, for example. Lindsay never recorded another song with Fleetwood Mac, and the band went down the tubes shortly thereafter.

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Jacob Britt wrote:

A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo albums? What are they lacking? I'm being serious in this topic.

FREDDIE'S LOVE BALLADS.

What happened? That's something I've always been a bit bitter about, that they hadn't any nice Freddie ballads, and that Freddie didn't really write the biggest hits (on AKOM and The Miracle).

Also, why didn't Freddie write many songs for the A Kind Of Magic album? I remember a quote, back in 1983 or '84 on that Lisa Robinson show (I think it was), and he said "They leave me to wardrobe, and writing the hits"... what's up with that?

Also, how likely do you think it is that the rest of Queen will someday finish up an unreleased song with Freddie on vocals and release it? Do you think they'll ever attempt it?
His solo album Mr. Bad Guy Released the year before magic took many of his songs. I think man made paradise and love me like there's no tomorrow/I was born to love you would have made the album much stronger. The song
"the miracle" was mainly a freddie song, though they all contributed, and He also wrote the song "don't try so hard" from Innuendo which was a great ballad. Don't forget he wrote "a winter's tale" from made in heaven.
“A kind of magic” & “The Miracle” are BORING! albums to begin with. Weak songs & bad production. Both those releases contain some of their worst songs ever! (Pain is so close to pleasure, One year of love, Rain must fall & My baby does me) So to answer your question “what is lacking?” is Strong Material. Plain and simple

Freddie solo album is one the all time worst CD’s ever. A bunch of lightweight disco/funk/dance shit recorded with no heart, soul or inspiration what so ever. It seems that all Freddie was concern with was appeasing his inner circle of friends and followers.
It's hard to believe this is the same person who wrote some of the best songs ever and ended up writing some of the worst as well.


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I still can't understand how some people can compare My Baby Does Me - the great relax atmospheric track - with such shit from early albums like Some Day One Day or She Makes Me?!

There's brilliant short review of the song by legendary Queen fan Philipp: "The song-material itself is rather b-side-style, but the incredibly large-scale Miracle production-standards made a clever piece of music out of it. It's not the melody or the lyrics which count with this track, but the arrangement and the atmosphere. Check it with stereo-headphones and some concentration, and you won't be disappointed."

To do a crap on MBDM is like to shit on 'Atom Heart Mother' suite because of its 'poor lyrics'.

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Micrówave wrote:

Jacob Britt wrote:


What happened? That's something I've always been a bit bitter about, that they hadn't any nice Freddie ballads, and that Freddie didn't really write the biggest hits (on AKOM and The Miracle).


Not so much AKOM, but that is where they started writing as "Queen" and not individually. That totally changed everything!!! I've always thought Pain Is So Close was just about there, but is it possible that too many hands were on this one? That's probably the reason for the solo album, too.

A similar thing happened to Fleetwood Mac in 1987. There was no plan to release an album, but Lindsay Buckingham had nearly enough songs to release his 3rd solo album. Mick Fleetwood and Richard Daushut had a couple songs they wanted his help on, and after getting together, they decided they had enough material for an album.

A lot of those songs on Tango In The Night are played and sung entirely by Lindsay, because he didn't want band input... Big Love, for example. Lindsay never recorded another song with Fleetwood Mac, and the band went down the tubes shortly thereafter.


Lindsey was also their producer. He knows his sh!t. I've been lucky enough to see Fleetwood Mac live three times. Good show.

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"There's a been a lot of rumors lately, about a certain band, well, Queen, the rumors are that we're gonna split up."

The atmosphere in the band was bad around that time. Hot Space wasn't well received, Roger and Freddie were working on side projects, and for added insult, Freddie and his partner got infected by a then-mysterious and frightening disease.

I think this is why Freddie hid his vulnerable side and put more emphasis on his partying, nothing-really-matters-to-me rocker image. And I guess that's why he stopped writing ballads with the band.

As for unreleased songs, I can't for the life of me understand why Queen can't publish a B-sides and rarities album. They've got a ton of great material just sitting there, while the band's busy telling off c-lebrities...

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I really like My Baby Does Me and Pain is so close to pleasure. I even like Delilah. I think they are great songs in fact!

A song I don't like is The Invisible Man. It's only a commercial money making hit. Nothing more...

And yeah... comparing the early stuff with the newer is wrong. It's the same band, but a whole different time.

But in general of course the early 5 albums are the best music ever!


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I still can't understand how some people can compare My Baby Does Me - the great relax atmospheric track - with such shit from early albums like Some Day One Day or She Makes Me?!


SO TRUE WITH THAT!

I think those two Brian songs were very dull, especially She Makes Me. I haven't listened to the thing for years because of how dull and lame it sounds. I hate that song so much. I don't even think of it when there's "Which Queen songs do you hate" topics, because I try to forget about that one.


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Jacob Britt wrote:

Serry... wrote:

I still can't understand how some people can compare My Baby Does Me - the great relax atmospheric track - with such shit from early albums like Some Day One Day or She Makes Me?!


SO TRUE WITH THAT!

I think those two Brian songs were very dull, especially She Makes Me. I haven't listened to the thing for years because of how dull and lame it sounds. I hate that song so much. I don't even think of it when there's "Which Queen songs do you hate" topics, because I try to forget about that one.
she makes me is the weakest song on SHA, but some day one day is great IMO. As far as "my baby does me" goes, When I first got the miracle way back in 1989 I never listened to that song, but over time my musical taste changed, and now love it. It's one of the Queen songs I always go back to. the worst song on the miracle is rogers invisible man. Back to the topic of freddie ballads, the last great queen love ballad freddie wrote was the brilliant it's a hard life.

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Posted: 04 May 08, 12:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i THINK THEY{RE PERFECT THE WAY THEY ARE


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He came up with some great songs on A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo, as well as Made In Heaven, but it seems he just didn't write the good old love ballads he used to write.


I don't agree with that really. His songs on AKOM are nothing to write home about. PotU is decent but is mostly good in the arrangment and production. Friends Will Be Friends and Pain Is So Close to Pleasure are mediocre. The Miracle is a nice track but nothing spectacular and My Baby Does Me is completely forgettable. I forget how much of Was It All Worth It he was responsible for. And while I enjoyed his songwriting contributions on Innuendo, his songs are not the strongest material on the album by any stretch of the imagination. I'm Going Slightly Mad wouldn't be nearly as well thought of without the bittersweetly amusing video that went with it. MIH was a beautifully produced hodgepodge of material that owes as much or more to the producing and arranging talents of May, Taylor and Deacon as it does to Freddie's songwriting.

So I stand by my original assertion: I think that, post-The Game, Freddie just had weaker songwriting chops, certainly compared to the material he wrote in the '70s. Which is fine, because he'd already written more masterpieces than most people come up with in an entire career and because the band had three other excellent songwriters to pick up his slack. And there was slack to pick up, regardles of how much that offends the Cult of Fred.

But imagine where Queen, the brand name, would be now without Radio Ga Ga, I Want to Break Free, Hammer to Fall, A Kind of Magic, Who Wants to Live Forever, I Want It All, The Show Must Go On, These Are the Days of Our Lives, et cetera. Nowhere near the longevity and continued public profile.

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Lindsay never recorded another song with Fleetwood Mac, and the band went down the tubes shortly thereafter.


You know, I assume, that they released an excellent album of all-new material, with Mr. Buckingham, in 2003, and toured very successfully in support of it. "Say You Will" I believe it was called. Much of it, again, culled from material for a solo album he was spending a decade working on.