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Posted: 23 May 08, 12:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

you motherfuckers that removed my post is this legal???

http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1106082

re selling Queen stuff posted on a "trading" section,if you don´t erase this as well I will see...RIAA may take to have a look at QZ.


Heap big woman you made an asshole outta me....gimme your bums and ride!!!!!!
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Posted: 23 May 08, 12:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You're joking, right? (ever notice this place really kicks off good with mental posts on fridays?)


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Posted: 23 May 08, 13:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What´s the difference between advertising and sending links privately and advertising and selling OFFICIAL stuff you retards?'please anwer this you mister-know-all(s).


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Posted: 23 May 08, 13:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well im no expert, but.
The main issue were dealing with here is copyright. The book you have has a copyright symbol on the cover, which means you cannot make COPIES of it and pass it on to other people whether it is for money or as in you're case for free.

Lets say you had 20 OFFICIAL books in a box. Then you can come on here and sell them no problem, same as Paul is doing with his official Queen records etc. He can sell his stuff here as long as none of it is a copy, the same way you can sell your book to a second hand book shop.

If your hellbent on sharing the book you could record yourself reciting it and post it here as a torrent. But FLAC only mp3 is for girls.


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Posted: 23 May 08, 13:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

L-R-TIGER1994 wrote:

re selling Queen stuff posted on a "trading" section


You think selling old records is illegal, and that there's nothing wrong with scanning pages of a book and sharing them online? Haven't you ever noticed the little copyright notice on page 2 of every book written in the last 50+ years?

Go play on the highway, please.



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Posted: 23 May 08, 16:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Anyway, official or not...The spanish edition of this book is pure crap, i bought it in December of last year and i sold it on Ebay because it was pure rubbish.

I don´t know if english version is better or not, but i lost the interest after read it in spanish.

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Posted: 23 May 08, 17:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Agr12345 wrote:

Anyway, official or not...The spanish edition of this book is pure crap, i bought it in December of last year and i sold it on Ebay because it was pure rubbish.

I don´t know if english version is better or not, but i lost the interest after read it in spanish.


I was about to say the same in the deleted post. The spanish edition of this book is a complete mess. I don´t know if it has something to do with the translation or ... whatever!

I even couldn´t read it to the end ... it is boring and repetitive and structured badly ... a total shame such product has the "official" label on it. Hope the original edition in english is much better.

If not, what a poor job by the authors.

Regarding the reason for wich this post started ... oh, come on ... the response has been already written ...


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Posted: 23 May 08, 17:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Agr12345 wrote:

Anyway, official or not...The spanish edition of this book is pure crap, i bought it in December of last year and i sold it on Ebay because it was pure rubbish.

I don´t know if english version is better or not, but i lost the interest after read it in spanish.


I was about to say the same in the deleted post. The spanish edition of this book is a complete mess. I don´t know if it has something to do with the translation or ... whatever!

I even couldn´t read it to the end ... it is boring and repetitive and structured badly ... a total shame such product has the "official" label on it. Hope the original edition in english is much better.

If not, what a poor job by the authors.

Regarding the reason for wich this post started ... oh, come on ... the response has been already written ...


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Posted: 23 May 08, 17:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

oops! sorry ... double post


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Posted: 23 May 08, 21:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

L-R-TIGER1994 wrote:

you motherfuckers that removed my post is this legal???

http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1106082

re selling Queen stuff posted on a "trading" section,if you don´t erase this as well I will see...RIAA may take to have a look at QZ.


Hi, L-R-TIGER1994!

How are you?

My name is Yara, nice to meet you.

May I ask you a question?

Why are you doing all this? What about apologizing to the people you cursed? They were simply pointing out to you, and it's not a personal question, that there's law in the world, and law forbids you from making copies of a copyrighted book and sharing it! Ok? It's nothing personal, all should abide by the law, ok?

What Paul was doing, I guess, is just seeling the official material he bought, and he's free to do so, as you are to, I don't know, sell your car!

So, let's try all again? Let's do, first, our harmony and say: "Thanks, Barb!"? lol And then, well, apologizing to people who are just pointing out to you that we should follow the rules, ok? Don't take it personally!

If I did it, for example, the first thing I would do if I realized I was wrong would not be trying to justify it by dragging other similar examples, but recognizing the mistake and moving on and learning!

I think it's better for us as human beings, but of course, you know better, I'm no one to give you advice.

Best Regards,

Yara.


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Posted: 24 May 08, 01:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

'All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited', we can find in magazines, but scanning and sharing magazines or aricles from them about Queen is not that sinful for Queen fans as scanning books...

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Posted: 24 May 08, 01:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Last time I checked, the magazines on the shelves are from 2008, not 1978. Legalities aside, you can't compare sharing a scan from 1978 to a scan of a book that is currently in print.



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Posted: 24 May 08, 01:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't compare scans from 1978 to scans of a book that is currently in print, I compare copyrights notes - reproduction of magazines is prohibited as well as of the books. This is not about 'share all your books, gentlemen!', this is about 'there's no need in moral teachings when we all are not saint'.

P.S. Queencuttings contains scans of magazines from 2008 ( http://www.queencuttings.com/dblog/articolo.asp?articolo=368 ) and I can't see someone here crying that it has to be closed, but I see people enjoying that site and using stuff from it.

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Posted: 24 May 08, 08:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Its not really an issue of anyone trying to take a moral highground.
DO NOT POST OFFICIAL MATERIAL OR LINKS TO OFFICIAL MATERIAL HERE. Thats self explanatory i think.

If the thread from L-R-TIGER1994 was not removed then what is to stop me from posting Queen Live,By G.B here? Now that wouldnt be too wise would it? And who would get in trouble for it? not you,not me but the moderators here.

As for Queencuttings.com,i think its a great site.
I have contributed a few clippings there. The most important thing to note about it though is that it is NOT Queenzone, and comparisons between the 2 UNRELATED sites really are POINTLESS in the topic that is being discussed HERE.
The disclamer on queencuttings says all you need to know.
http://www.queencuttings.com/dblog/disclaimer.asp





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Posted: 24 May 08, 09:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Marknow, you miss my point completely.

My point is about making exceptions in the law for ourselves, the law is the law. It's not something like 'the law works for QZ, but doesn't for QC', can you please understand that? Or it's too POINTLESS for you? Reproduction is prohibited. Period. No matter if you have access to the magazines from 1978 or not, no matter if A Human's Body is out of print or not - it's not allowed to be uploaded anywhere.

Can you please also understand that people who makes these exceptions in the law for themselves are judging L-R-Tiger here? And this issue is not about moral background? No, Sir Marknow, this is about moral background - you've contributed a few clippings to QC and now you judge L-R-Tiger for contributing to someone's e-mail scans of Freddie's book? You both made exceptions from the general, not only QZ's, law 'reproduction is prohibited'. And by the way L-R haven't post links to the scans on QZ, as I remember the deleted thread. So, please, Marknow, let someone more saint than you are to judge L-R-Tiger. Change the judges with the-breaking-the-same-laws-on-other-sites past.

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Posted: 24 May 08, 10:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My point is very straightforward: law.

Here, it's not prohibited to access Queenzone and download free unofficial concerts. It's not. It's prohibited to make copy or share official material, though, like in most countries. It's also matter of debate whether recording a concert you attended to is illegal or not - some argue that the guy who paid a huge sum to go to the concert (they are expensive) has the right of recording the concert and sharing it for free with other uses, because he'll never be reproducing the actual concert, just a faint and pale reflection of it. It's what many lawyers argue, and it's been accepted here in many cases, so, no problem.

It's jut just a question of trying to abide by the law.

I guess is not so complicated.

So, don't share official material or make copies of it to share, whether it's books or cds, and we're ok.

I really don't know why all this debate!?

Queenzone has a clear policy of not allowing official material to be shared. Official material was shared, it was excluded.

Queenzone rules.

That's it. Hahaha.

I mean, didn't get what's the issue.


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Posted: 24 May 08, 10:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Saint Marknow thats good, think ill add it to my signature.

Where have a claimed to be a saint? I must be joined atleast 15 torrent related sites and this is the only one that does not host illegal files. Nobody here is judging or attacking anybody, although he could have toned it down a bit. But then again im no saint am I?

All the years that you have been here and you condone someone posting links to an official book?

Sure,lets have a free for all and start posting Demonoid links to official Albums.

All i gave was my opinion, as asked to in the 3rd post above. In my response i mention im no expert, which im not. He asked for my opinion and he got it.


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Posted: 24 May 08, 10:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Haven't I already wrote three or four times in this thread that what he did is not allowed, out of the law, etc.? Why do you magically turn my point into 'share everything, kids, uncle Serry blessed it!'?

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Posted: 24 May 08, 10:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Serry... wrote:

Haven't I already wrote three or four times in this thread that what he did is not allowed, out of the law, etc.? Why do you magically turn my point into 'share everything, kids, uncle Serry blessed it!'?


Alright that was a bit off. But in fairness it looks like your defending him for doing something you agree was wrong.

Sure were all two faced liars when it comes to the material we get off the net. If that was posted on Demonoid in english i would maybe download it. But thats the way the internet goes.


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Posted: 24 May 08, 10:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Marknow wrote:

Serry... wrote:

Haven't I already wrote three or four times in this thread that what he did is not allowed, out of the law, etc.? Why do you magically turn my point into 'share everything, kids, uncle Serry blessed it!'?


Alright that was a bit off. But in fairness it looks like your defending him for doing something you agree was wrong.

Sure were all two faced liars when it comes to the material we get off the net. If that was posted on Demonoid in english i would maybe download it. But thats the way the internet goes.


Really sorry, but I think you could tone down it a bit here too. lol "Sure we ALL", I'd like to exclude myself from it and make it very clear, because I don't use the internet to commit any illegal acts, any. If I did, I'd be expelled from School/College, so, just to make clear, you know. Hahaha. Nothing personal.
The info I get from Queen and that I post here is from Wiki and Queen's official website. Ok, it's bad info (hahaha), but it's the info I get.

Best regards,

Yara.




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