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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 10:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi to everybody. This concert was share here a few days ago, but it was in mp3. I have converted to wav, but i can't convert to flac. In every case, its sound is good, and I hope you listen to it louder.

MP3-> Wav

In this torrent, I have added the mp3 show.

The track listing is:

01. Ogre Battle
02. Sweet Lady
3- White Queen (As It Began)
4- Flick Of the Wrist
5- Bohemian Rhapsody
6- Killer Queen
7- The March Of The Black Queen
8- Bohemian Rhapsody (reprise)
9- Bring Back That Leroy Brown
10- Son And Daughter
11- Guitar Solo
12- Son And Daughter (reprise)
13- The Prophet's Song (cut)
14- Doing All Right
15- Keep Yourself Alive
16- Liar
17- In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited
18- Now I'm Here
19- Hey Big Spender
20- Jailhouse Rock
21- God Save The Queen

Total time: 79:01

Good bye.

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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 10:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hmm... Well... I'll be the first to tell you that, because you should be called names...
When you convert mp3 to wav, it doesn't improve quality at all. If you want, to explain it clearly, the mp3 cuts some of the quality off the music, some frequencies are dropped. But making them Wav after a mp3 compression doesn't add these frequencies, so it just makes the files bigger... When the original files are mp3, it's too late, quality is lost forever, so we have to chase a version that was not converted to mp3.
Flac is a way to "compress" files without that loss of quality, that's why there is a cruisade here about mp3 and Flac.

Hope you get what I say, I don't know if I was quite clear, not always sure about my english level !


Regards,

Olivier,
France.


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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 10:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well in any case mp3 to FLAC is useless to convert.


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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 10:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If this is MP3->WAV it´s totally useless.

You have 1.7GB of crap that is the same as the MP3 (the sound was ruined when it was converted to MP3 in the first place)

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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 11:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Any chance of getting it in morse code via crapidshare?


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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 11:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well it's nice that you want to share something but what you've done is a VERY bad idea.

MP3s are a lossy format, once you encode a lossless file into mp3, you loose a lot of sound data, mainly above 16kHz. This change or damage to be more precise can not be undone.
So if you convert an mp3 to a wav file, you get a file which contains the same audio information as the original mp3 file, only it's much much bigger

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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 12:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Look on the bright side... at least he admitted he's passing off lossy as lossless. This way nobody needed to take the time to check!



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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 12:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All this paranoia about mp3 is quite weird !
If mp3 was so bad, it would not be so popular.

Good quality mp3 (eg 192/44 or above) is similar to FM radio quality, and that's good enough for
99% of humans. Of course, if you're a dog .....

Ever heard of the emperor's new clothes ?
The main thing is the quality of the original
recording. Then, the digitised format - high bitrate mp3 will be OK for radio shows / bootlegs.

Thanks for this Coventry show and please ignore these audio extremists ......


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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 12:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

peckery wrote:

All this paranoia about mp3 is quite weird !
If mp3 was so bad, it would not be so popular.


Popular doesn't necessarily mean good on all levels.



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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 12:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

peckery wrote:

All this paranoia about mp3 is quite weird !
If mp3 was so bad, it would not be so popular.

Good quality mp3 (eg 192/44 or above) is similar to FM radio quality, and that's good enough for
99% of humans. Of course, if you're a dog .....

Ever heard of the emperor's new clothes ?
The main thing is the quality of the original
recording. Then, the digitised format - high bitrate mp3 will be OK for radio shows / bootlegs.

Thanks for this Coventry show and please ignore these audio extremists ......

You didn't get the point.
This is not another lossy / lossless discussion, this is simply that he encoded an mp3 to wav. The only thing is that the files are bigger

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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 13:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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...I don't want to beg for mercy...

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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 13:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Siento tener que escribir este texto en español, pero no sé expresarme correctamente en inglés.

En primer lugar, pensaba que al convertir mp3 a wav se ganaba calidad de audio, pero parece ser que no es así.

En segundo lugar: pensaba que compartir algo con gente que tiene los mismos gustos musicales que yo, sería una buena idea, pero parece ser que hay gente que desea tener los conciertos para ellos y nada más y aún encima criticar el compartir los conciertos que con tanto recelo tienen para ellos. Pues nada, seguid así.

En tercer lugar: aumenté el volumen del concierto, de tal forma que se escuchara un poco mejor.

En cuarto lugar: si alguien no quiere descargarlo porque considera que no merece la pena, que no lo haga. Creo que es mejor tener el concierto a no tener nada.

Un saludo.

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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 13:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

queenespaña wrote:

Siento tener que escribir este texto en español, pero no sé expresarme correctamente en inglés.

En primer lugar, pensaba que al convertir mp3 a wav se ganaba calidad de audio, pero parece ser que no es así.

En segundo lugar: pensaba que compartir algo con gente que tiene los mismos gustos musicales que yo, sería una buena idea, pero parece ser que hay gente que desea tener los conciertos para ellos y nada más y aún encima criticar el compartir los conciertos que con tanto recelo tienen para ellos. Pues nada, seguid así.

En tercer lugar: aumenté el volumen del concierto, de tal forma que se escuchara un poco mejor.

En cuarto lugar: si alguien no quiere descargarlo porque considera que no merece la pena, que no lo haga. Creo que es mejor tener el concierto a no tener nada.

Un saludo.

I am typing this text in Spanish, but not expressed correctly in English.

Firstly, I thought that when you convert MP3 to WAV earned audio quality, but it seems that this is not the case.

Secondly, I thought to share something with people who have the same taste in music that I would be a good idea, but it seems that there are people who want to have concerts for them and nothing more than criticize and even sharing that with the concerts both have to distrust them. Well, nothing, keep well.

Thirdly, to increase the volume of the concert, so as to hear a little better.

Fourthly, if someone does not want to download it because it believes that not worth it, you do so. I think it is better to have the concert to have nothing.

A greeting.

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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 13:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I only want to share this show. I thought it will be nice, and the sound quality will increase, but no. I'm sorry for this.

Me gusta que la gente comparta sus conciertos, no critico que no lo hagan, pero sí me gustaría escuchar las canciones de la mítica banda Queen en directo y sobre todo al legendario y a nuestro queridísimo Freddie.

Al convertir las canciones, utilicé una velocidad de 96.000 Mhz y una profundidad de bits de 16 (CD y DAT) y en estéreo.

Quizá alguien quiera escribir una información técnica más concreta.

Thank you all.

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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 14:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Estas perdonado Queenespaña.

No es necesario que discutamos acerca de como convertiste los MP3 a WAV ni demos datos tecnicos acerca del proceso. El punto es que no se mejora la calidad de un archivo de sonido convirtiendolo de MP3 a WAV.



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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 14:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi,

Your willing to share is not the problem here, we are all happy when someone wants to share its beloved music with us. That's not the point, you're welcome if you want to share something.
The thing is you probably had the wrong information, so don't take it as criticism but as an help to help you understand, in that case, why a mp3 converted to Wav or Flac is not a good idea. If you need more technical information, as there is unfortunately no part in this forum dedicated to that technical issues, just ask, we'll be happy to help you, without criticism. Just drop me a PM if you prefer and want some help, I'll be happy to help you.

Regards,

Olivier,
France.




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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 14:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Gracias Alex. Llevas razón, pensaba que sí se mejoraba la calidad. Tengo 3 conciertos en mp3 y pensaba hacer lo mismo, pero si no gana calidad, pues los grabo directamente y ya está. No quiero discutir y menos por compartir algo, espero que le guste a la gente y que escuchen el concierto, creo que merece la pena oírlo.

Gracias Alex.

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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 14:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Alex Solan. wrote:

Estas perdonado Queenespaña.

No es necesario que discutamos acerca de como convertiste los MP3 a WAV ni demos datos tecnicos acerca del proceso. El punto es que no se mejora la calidad de un archivo de sonido convirtiendolo de MP3 a WAV.



Alex, no sabía que hablabas Español! :)
de dónde eres?

Queenespaña:

no te ofendas; yo, como muchos, apreciamos el hecho de que compartas este concierto y el esfuerzo que has hecho en "mejorar" su escucha, aumentando el volumen, etc etc; otra cosa es esta polémica FLAC / mp3 que existe en QZ desde hace tiempo; en ningún momento creo que nadie te haya faltado al respeto, simplemente se lamentaban o te informaban de lo que desconocías: que pasarlo de mp3 a WAV es algo que no lleva a nada en términos de mejora de la calidad.

Yo mismo trato de evitar mis descargas de Queen en mp3 a toda costa, porque quiero la máxima calidad de audio posible. FLAC forever, macho. Ahora bien, si cualquiera, como en este caso tú, cuelga un concierto que yo no tengo, no dudaré en bajarlo, esté en mp3 o en el formato que sea.

Y como éste es el caso y este concierto en concreto no lo tenía .. pues entonces:

GRACIAS :)

*** I´m sorry for those not understanding spanish, but I felt that was the better way to communicate my thougthts to Queenespaña

cheers everybody



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Posted: 19 Jun 08, 14:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How did this end up on the QZ front page, but the Sapporo 82 upgrade didn't?



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