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Posted: 17 Aug 08, 11:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

hello you all.

i was thinking why QP won?t release all the vhs
releases from the past.
confurting it to DVD or the newest blue ray.
flooting the market is not the case.
they cann also release what?s not released yet.
(hammersmith odeon 1979)
look at the u2 site you can read how much they
release.
a few months ago u2 had released U23D.
in september will red rocks see the market.
they will release old u2 stuff from 1983.
queen on the other hand won?t release old stuff
from 1974/75.
only releasing what is safe for sales.
but i think the old stuff will be sold as well
maybe not so much as wembley but enough.

these vhs releases are only on vhs and maybe laserdisk....
1.live in rio,1985
2.documentary<>the magic years,1987
3.live in budapest,1987
4.rare live,1989 this is not worthy for release.
5.the first half freddie mercury tribute,1992
6.live at the rainbow,1992
7.QUEENROCKS 1997
8.documentary<>champions of the world,1995
9.bejart a ballet for life,1998 (mozart and queen)
10.THE COLLECTION 1991/1999 GREATEST FLIX 3,1999
11.brian may live at the brixton academy,1994
12.roger taylor live at the caiberbarn,1998
13.sas band the show 2000
14.queen live at museumplein,2002

greetings




hello all you rock ’n’ rollers

it’s enourrrrrmous out here

it’s frightning i tell you

soooooooo beautiful.

queen live at KNEBWORTH PARK MAGIC ’86
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Posted: 17 Aug 08, 13:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

along with my betamax tapes as well.

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Posted: 17 Aug 08, 16:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

May I ask what Queen "Live At The Museumplein" is?

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Posted: 17 Aug 08, 16:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yes tat?s an open earia in holland amsterdam




hello all you rock ’n’ rollers

it’s enourrrrrmous out here

it’s frightning i tell you

soooooooo beautiful.

queen live at KNEBWORTH PARK MAGIC ’86
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Posted: 19 Aug 08, 19:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Other than Budapest what is the point of Converting standard def shot stuff to blu-ray when there wil be no pic quality gain?

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Posted: 20 Aug 08, 02:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Please, learn to write, your posts are incredibly hard to read.
There are things like capital letters,paragraphs, line breaks ...

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Posted: 20 Aug 08, 11:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

KevoM wrote:

Other than Budapest what is the point of Converting standard def shot stuff to blu-ray when there wil be no pic quality gain?


Agreed.

Though I wouldn't put it past QP to pull a Pony Canyon/Bandai Visual, and put out some releases upconverted, regardless (like "AIR", "Yukikaze", etc. - mind you, they had really good reviews for PQ despite the upconversion, as they still looked better than NTSC SD DVD's, and "AIR" also had a PCM 5.1 track, which is definitely an upgrade from any Dolby Digital 5.1 or PCM 2.0 audio tracks on DVD).

Personally, I wouldn't mind it if, say, they bundled some upconverted bonuses as a bonus on some potential high-def Blu-ray releases for some titles like "Return Of The Champions", Budapest, Rainbow, etc., if only for the added lossless surround sound audio :)

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Posted: 20 Aug 08, 12:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

breakthru1989 wrote:

hello you all.

i was thinking why QP won?t release all the vhs
releases from the past.
confurting it to DVD or the newest blue ray.


hello you there

Because Brian, Roger, and John know that we could go to Best Buy and buy a DVD recorder and do that ourselves.

"confurting" it will not give you a better picture or sound quality, that has to come from the source itself.

I got a Pioneer and have about 30 Queen DVDs now, in addition to the official ones. Had I paid $20 a pop for each DVD, that would have cost $600. Instead it cost $250 for the recorder and about ten bucks for the blank DVDs. And actually the sound track from an audio tape is not that bad. Someone mentioned Beta.

I have Live In Rio on Beta and it sounds markedly better than the VHS version. The tape is thicker, thus more detail in audio and video clarity is possible. Most would think that my Rio DVD is an original DVD. I only wish I could find some more Beta concerts (as long as my player keeps working!)

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Posted: 20 Aug 08, 14:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Microwave wrote:

breakthru1989 wrote:

hello you all.

i was thinking why QP won?t release all the vhs
releases from the past.
confurting it to DVD or the newest blue ray.


hello you there

Because Brian, Roger, and John know that we could go to Best Buy and buy a DVD recorder and do that ourselves.

"confurting" it will not give you a better picture or sound quality, that has to come from the source itself.


Exactly.
Considering anything between 1973-1991 would have either been shot on film or tape, it would not have any digital compression of sorts, and even if it's taken from tape, it would still be of considerably higher quality than digitally compressed NTSC MPEG-2 (DVD) standard quality, as DVD's are capped at 8Mbps maximum for video, as opposed to 40Mbps for Blu-ray (regardless of codec).

It also depends if the source is in good shape or not, depending how it's been stored and taken care of over the years.

I have Live In Rio on Beta and it sounds markedly better than the VHS version. The tape is thicker, thus more detail in audio and video clarity is possible. Most would think that my Rio DVD is an original DVD. I only wish I could find some more Beta concerts (as long as my player keeps working!)


Not sure how Beta compares to VHS, but I have Rio on Laserdisc, and it looks pretty good. Certainly better than VHS :)
But I have other titles on LD that look even better, like Pink Floyd's "Delicate Sound of Thunder" for instance.

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Posted: 20 Aug 08, 15:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yes that?s what i mean digatily compressed and not confurted because confurted is something else.
at the moment that i did write this i coudnt find the word.
nothing else.
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it’s frightning i tell you

soooooooo beautiful.

queen live at KNEBWORTH PARK MAGIC ’86
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Posted: 20 Aug 08, 19:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Am comfursed. What does confurted mean? :-)

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Posted: 20 Aug 08, 19:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The original sources either film or 70's video tape WILL be better than VHS.
Film cells and the 2 inch video tape used in the 70's are far higher resolution than 240 line VHS (half the broadcast quality you see when transmitted on TV)
A well authored DVD can be free from artifacts and noise and so there is no reason not to transfer the old VHS releases to DVD and you WILL see a quality improvement. The audio will also be improved due to DVD greater dynamuic range.
Can you not see the difference in the greatest hits VHS vs the DVD?

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Posted: 22 Aug 08, 09:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

TheAmazingEvent wrote:

Can you not see the difference in the greatest hits VHS vs the DVD?


Yes the VHS version is better as it's in the correct aspect ratio and hasn't been butchered like the DVD ;)


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Posted: 22 Aug 08, 09:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As for as HD conversion goes most professional outfits (i.e the BBC) wouldn't consider anything less than film shot on super 16mm as a source.

A whole load of 80s drama classics shot on standard 16mm
and even video tape (mainly in the US) due to cutting costs means we will never see their likes converted to HD.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

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Posted: 22 Aug 08, 12:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

inu-liger wrote:

What does confurted mean? :-)



There, there. Everything will be ok.

(You've just been confurted... Remember, I'm from Texas.)

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Posted: 22 Aug 08, 13:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Am comfursed. What does confurted mean? :-)
I belive it to be conVerted. Am I right? Please take note. I´m not picking about the spelling here. I, too have made quite a few in my days!


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Posted: 22 Aug 08, 15:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

henke1980 wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

Am comfursed. What does confurted mean? :-)
I belive it to be conVerted. Am I right? Please take note. I´m not picking about the spelling here. I, too have made quite a few in my days!


It was meant as a joke, my friend :-)
Hence my misspelling of confused ;-)

Yes, it was supposed to be 'converted'.

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Posted: 22 Aug 08, 18:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thankfully most 70's stuff was taped on the superior 2 inch tape before cost cutting introduced the 1 inch stuff. Notice how 70's video look crisper than 80's stuff?