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Posted: 08 Sep 08, 16:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Cosmos Rocks album has been reviewed by the BBC's Chris Jones. A very lukewarm review which you would have to say would probably equate to 2 stars out of 5.

Review is at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/release/m4n8/


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Posted: 08 Sep 08, 16:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why am I not surprised?

The press continues to hate. What's new.

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Posted: 08 Sep 08, 17:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think thats quite a decent review.

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Posted: 08 Sep 08, 17:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What will Brian say? :P


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Posted: 08 Sep 08, 19:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"A very lukewarm review which you would have to say would probably equate to 2 stars out of 5."

That's your editorializing. Having read it for myself, the review seems well on the "warm" side. Far from "scalding", but well past "lukewarm". Again, your bias, sir or madam. Struck me as more of a 4 stars out of 5. Far from revolutionary but a damn good time.


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Posted: 09 Sep 08, 00:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thats not a two star review... Its better than that.
Not sure what you expect from the reviews but I think that is fairly positive.

3 star review if you ask me.
At least the guy has listened to it, half the time I swear they don't.

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Posted: 09 Sep 08, 03:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Who the hell called this a 2 star review?
It sounds more than fair, judging by what I've heard of the album so far.


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Posted: 09 Sep 08, 03:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Don't get me wrong, I'm gonna get the album and I'm going to a few gigs - I think what I've heard so far of the album is great and can't wait to get it. I want it to be a 5 star review everywhere.

I've read many reviews in my time and sorry folks, I would say that this just ain't a great review. The Mojo review was very good and that only made 3 stars and I sense a 4 star review coming up from Classic Rock (watch this space). Unfortunately reviews are just the views of one person you've got to remember that.

Don't shoot the messenger! Maybe on hindsight this could perhaps slip into a 3 star review which in most cases would make it 'good' but you can sense this reviewer is perhaps warm to the fact that the lads still want to give it a go, but doesn't really take to the album.


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Posted: 09 Sep 08, 12:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"pop genius John Deacon"?

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Posted: 09 Sep 08, 14:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Your not the messenger though Soul Brother... you're the one saying it's "lukewarm" and "2-star"... you're title is what drove my curiosity to reading this review! I think it's quite a fair and in parts flattering review. For the first time, I may actually be looking forward to hearing The CRs.

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Posted: 09 Sep 08, 15:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This review is very fair and balanced and hits the nail on the head in many ways. In fact: who wants to begrudge Brian, Roger, Paul Rodgers and the fans a little fun. This sentence makes a lot of people who get all wound up over the QPR project look bitter. It's just a bloody record :)

I had to smile about the "pop genius", too.


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Posted: 10 Sep 08, 03:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The reviewer thinks "Time To Shine" is outstanding.
Take no heed. He doesn't know what he's talking about!

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Posted: 10 Sep 08, 03:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Strong three stars if you ask me.

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Posted: 10 Sep 08, 05:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

2 stars would have a negative review, in my opinion. This review is certainly not negative. Easy 3 stars.

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Posted: 10 Sep 08, 05:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well the review in the Uncut is very very clear and not what many fans want to read

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Posted: 10 Sep 08, 11:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just read the Uncut review on line, not pretty. The US music website Idolator called the idea of Q+PR one of the worst ideas in music history, so it's apparent that they're going to get roasted. If they do get roasted from critics, this will be why. From the BBC review:

"Rodgers' lyrics always relied on the more hoary old cliches in rock's thesaurus."

Very true. The always witty and usually sensible Microwave commented on another thread about rather hearing a Bad Company album with PR singing than hearing an album with Brian and Roger singing. Agreed, from a pure vocal perspective. But if Paul Rodgers, the writer, is involved? Cliche City, here we come.

"In fact too often songs start like the mid-paced Bad Company country rockers (Some Things That Gliitter) and lack Freddie Mercury's baroque flourishes that would have stretched the band beyond mere efficiency."

Many people here, including the aforementioned Microwave, and Sir GH, who should know better, defend Paul Rodgers' totally awesome vocal prowess when defending the use of the Queen name and the new project. However, it was Freddie as a singer and writer who provided the opportunity to move into musical directions because of his versatility, that Q+PR can't go in. To many, that versatility was what set Queen apart from everyone. There will be no arguing that the singing and playing will be first rate on the new album, but I sense the writing and styles of writing are going to be pretty weak. IMHO.





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Posted: 10 Sep 08, 12:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rodgers is versatile, no doubt about it.Probably one of the few singers who along with Freddie can handle many styles equally good.

As a writer he has been very consistent through the years and always delivered. If you think it sounds clichéed I honestly think its because you havent listened enough, like the reviewers in most of these magazines. (They dislike Freddie even more if thats the point youre trying to make.) Im a regular reader so I know how these reviews generally look like. Just watch out for the zero stars in Rolling Stone in a week or something.

Paul knows his style, he knows what he wants to do and hes great at it. I actually think what upsets most people is that he doesnt sound like Freddie.

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Posted: 10 Sep 08, 13:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No,

as someone who thinks Paul Rodgers is a great singer I can tell you that I think the LEAST of his problems is that he doesn't sound like Freddie.

I just gave 'Still Burnin' a listen so I could comment on whether or not the slide solo sucked,
and I was only listening for a short while before Rodgers lets loose a big, fat, sleazy "OHH YEAAAAH". Virtually the same "OOOOHHH YEAAAAAH" I saw him do during 'C-Lebrity' on the Al Murry Show.

That's not got anything to do with Freddie - it's a stylistic thing. Not everyone likes unimaginative "OH YEAAAAAHS" in their music, which is obviously something Paul Rodgers is bringing to the table.

I'm going to give the album a few listens when it's out, it's the least I can do... I don't think people should be so surprised if the songs get poked at for being clichéd, because clichéd is what they are. At least when it comes to the lyrical content I've seen.


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Posted: 10 Sep 08, 13:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wasnt really referring to you, as I think you seem like very resonable guy.But some of the critiscism seem to be aiming at his difference from Freddie and how different it sounds from the old Queen, something that I find strange.

Of course, people are not going to like this for good reasons. I agree with you on the lyrics, with their experience as songwriters Id think you could expect more. But generally if you dont like classic rock, blues or are more into Queens pop-songs I do not think youd enjoy this at all. I do, and I actually find it really good. Some of it is as good music as any of thems ever done, some tracks Im not all that crazy about.

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Posted: 10 Sep 08, 15:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Not everyone likes unimaginative "OH YEAAAAAHS" in their music, which is obviously something Paul Rodgers is bringing to the table"

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Basically blind em and deaf em in the first 10 minutes, and while they are recovering from that put in the less good songs