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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 04:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You can criticize it's lyrics, that fact that it's not Freddie and not Queen and not highly original

but

....just sit back relax and listen to first class musicians making excellent music.

That's the deal ... and they are not going to be with us for ever just enjoy !!!!

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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 04:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Time To Shine and Say It's Not True are great, C-Lebrity and Time To Shine have good things about them, but Warboys, Cosmos rocks and Call Me are just so NOT-QUEEN that it's easy to feel a let down, and personally I find it less interesting than Free or Bad Company even.

School's Out/Surf's Up has that Red Special juice to it and it alone gives me hope, but I just cannot fathom how solo Taylor and May clearly tops this album. At least the tour will follow, and man oh man can PR tour with Queen in a way totally fantastic, even if it's not to be parrallel with a good album.

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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 05:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I honestly think the musicianship is excellent (although not very original) and that is enough for me.

On a playing basis it doesn't get much better than these people.


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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 05:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Say it's not true remains my fav but I like a lot also Cosmos rocking (probably Brian's), Still Burning (definitely Brian's), Small (probably Roger's), We Believe and Some Things That Glitter (they have a lot of Elton's style), Time to shine...
The start of We Believe when the acoustic guitar enters reminds me the start of On My Way Up...

Yes, some songs are a little crappy, like Call Me, but they are fillers, there were also in the old albums... but in the album as a whole there is no song I really dislike.

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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 05:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fist class musicians + Paul Rodgers. Making... crappy music.


It lets me down. A lot.



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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 07:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ummm..... I just heard the whole thing start to finish and would like to rotate in a 180 degree direction and say that album samplers and incomplete low quality tracks can really, really hide the goodies and make something great sound terrible.

THIS ALBUM FREAKING ROCKS!

I apologize for my misguided comments because I was totally wrong.

Hooray for Brian, Roger and Paul.

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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 07:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't need good quality to tell good songwriting from bad songwriting. If a song works, you can play it on a single acoustic guitar and you'll get the idea. It has always worked this way.

Telling from what I've heard so far, these songs are the most boring uninspired songs I've ever heard from May and Taylor.

Dull, dusty and lame. So sad to say it like that.

Queen is over for good now. They used to be miles ahead from the rest, but now they're just a sad copy of a 3rd class rockband having nothing to say or to prove.

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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 12:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

LucTonnerre wrote:

I don't need good quality to tell good songwriting from bad songwriting. If a song works, you can play it on a single acoustic guitar and you'll get the idea. It has always worked this way.

Telling from what I've heard so far, these songs are the most boring uninspired songs I've ever heard from May and Taylor.

Dull, dusty and lame. So sad to say it like that.

Queen is over for good now. They used to be miles ahead from the rest, but now they're just a sad copy of a 3rd class rockband having nothing to say or to prove.



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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 14:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

again
im dutch
so forgive my spelling
but this album is great
brought some tears to my eyes
this is queen 2008
only thing thats wrong....its to short
think its great
and like freddie would say...
sod ya if ya dont like it...
queen is still much alive

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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 14:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I very much hope the album is good! It`s Queen, guys, it`s still Queen, the legendary Queen, I hope they`ve succeeded!

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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 20:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

erik41 wrote:



and like freddie would say...
sod ya if ya dont like it...



is that in dutch?


She was my lover

It was a shame that she died

But the constitution´s right on my side

Cos I cought my lover in my neighbours bed

I got retribution, filled´em full of lead
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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 20:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

April wrote:

It`s Queen, guys, it`s still Queen, the legendary Queen,


mhahhahahhaha
post of the year
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She was my lover

It was a shame that she died

But the constitution´s right on my side

Cos I cought my lover in my neighbours bed

I got retribution, filled´em full of lead
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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 20:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

s.m. wrote:

April wrote:

It`s Queen, guys, it`s still Queen, the legendary Queen,


mhahhahahhaha
post of the year
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...yeah, I had a good laugh at that one too.


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Posted: 12 Sep 08, 23:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AWESOME album, I really enjoyed listening to this album!
Forget about Queen, this is a new creature!
Enjoy the music folks!
Cheers!!!


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Posted: 13 Sep 08, 03:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, it's Queen+Paul Rodgers...I've been supporting them getting together since I first heard about it...

I've been a Queen fan since I was 3...maybe younger, I don't really remember...

I admit it, I'm guilty of downloading...but I live in the US, and I think it's crap we have to wait until the 28th of October, whereas the rest of the world gets it on the 15th...don't get me wrong, I'm happy for everybody else out there...but why do we get the shaft...

I'm going to say this, and I know alot of people will hate out on me for it...yes there's a few good songs...maybe the rest will grow on me in some way, but I was not impressed. Even as Brian May being one of my biggest musical heroes and inspirations for ME being a musician, I was really let down. The album as a whole does seem weak. This band is very much capable of more than what they just put out. Quite honestly, it sounds and feels very much like product. No offense to the band, they are beyond phenomenal. As a fan, I'll be at the shows. But buying it when it comes out in October...not really sure at this point...


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Posted: 13 Sep 08, 23:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How can you not like Cosmos Rocks?

Are you kidding? It's a very lacklustre effort.

"Warboys" has to be one of the most misguided songs I've heard for years. Christ, it's not the soldiers fault, blame the people sending them into those stupid wars.

The album is soooo out of touch it's embarassing. Nevermind the playing is underwhelming considering who it is.

Freddie or not, this is a poor effort.

Shame

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Posted: 13 Sep 08, 23:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bambams-paradise wrote:

I admit it, I'm guilty of downloading...but I live in the US, and I think it's crap we have to wait until the 28th of October, whereas the rest of the world gets it on the 15th...don't get me wrong, I'm happy for everybody else out there...but why do we get the shaft...


You could have bought it from HMV Japan and downloaded it legally.

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Posted: 14 Sep 08, 04:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great album, well done. To me it doesnt sound very different to what Id expect a Queen-album with Freddie of today to sound like. Sure theres a strong Paul Rodgers-feel, but for Gods sake hes on the album. Hes a great musician so it isnt a bad thing in my book anyway.

Seems to me people have the wrong expectations. They think it will be certain sound, when they havent really done the operatic sound for 30 years anyway. And because of the level of the hitsongs they are most famous for people also expect this to be some kind of Greatest Hits 4, shockfull with surefire hitsingles, when very few of their old albums comes even close to that.

To say this is AOR rock or something really only shows that you arent familiar with the music of Paul Rodgers and the blues and soulbases of it, which is far from FM-rock. Sure Paul was huge in that market, but that doesnt change the fact that there is much meaning and roots in the music he made than what the genre is known for. Queen to a large part shares the same roots, after all they came from the same place. So this record really isnt about escaping their past but rather of going back to their original roots.

At heart they were always a heavy/rock band though, and that is what shines through on this album combined with the blues which was always there aswell but hidden. That is what Paul brings and that is why this is such an interesting meeting that brings out aspects of Queen that werent really obvious before.

Queen were always about change, so if it sounds slightly different its nothing new. Their albums were always varied and they changed their sound from almost every record.

If you dont like it, fine. I dont like all the old Queen-albums anyway. Peoples tastes vary it is the way we work, but please respect us who do like it instead of throwing insults at people, the album or the bandmembers.

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Posted: 14 Sep 08, 04:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, my Father may like it. It's more his pace.

And for the pretentious amongst us (see above) you don't have to understand Queen/Paul Rodgers and or where they're coming from at all to tell when something is a mediocre effort.

Why not make a skiffle album then with this nonsense argument about going back to their roots?

Despite what we were told, the Cosmos "Rocks" about as hard as Phil Collins.

...and you know, oddly, considering they've been around so long, you'd think they'd realise there would only be one guy who could've gotten away with a line about "Loving a butterfly", but sadly he's no longer with us.

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Posted: 14 Sep 08, 04:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bgordon88 wrote:

How can you not like Cosmos Rocks ?


It's pretty easy actually.

All it requires is for the band to make unmemorable and unimpressive songs, and me to listen to them and realise how little they have to offer.

From the perspective of a general music fan there aren't any hooks or choruses to entice me.

From the perspective of a Queen fan the album offers me nothing more than repeats of previous solo songs.


So yes, it might have technically proficient musicians, but the material itself doesn't "do it" for me... That's how I can not like Cosmos Rocks.