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Posted: 17 Sep 08, 16:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Has anyone ever thought about which songs on the new album could have sung by Freddie? As much as i'm liking it, it just doesn't seem to be Queen. Just a thought...........

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Posted: 17 Sep 08, 18:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not sure the poster above me answered the question did he/she? Anyway this argument is quite old on here and even dare I say a little boring but nice to here that Queen had such a positive effect on you. I feel the same way about them, Queen music was a very important part of my early years and Freddies death was devestating to me.

Now to answer the question, yes I have thought about which ones I could visualise Freddie singing.I could imagine him with Cosmos Rocking, Time To Shine, We believe and C-lebrity not so much with bluesy numbers like Voodoo and Through the night. However the point is that these songs were not written with Freds voice in mind, but yes you can't help wondering.

To be honest I reckon Queen would be long finished by now had Freedie not died. There is no way Freddie would still be putting himself through this at 62 years old. Did he not say something along those lines in an interview once? something about "Well, because it would be ridiculous"

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Posted: 17 Sep 08, 19:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

longtimequeenfan wrote:

Please guys - it's your job to preserve the Queen legacy.
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My rant is over! Other Queen fans' opinions are of course welcome to comment on this (though please listen to this 'new album' first if you think you disagree!)


Ok, I am a year younger than you and I think we both became fans of the band around 1992. Still, we have very different views on this matter. We are both Queen fans but we think differently and this applies to every other poster in this forum.

If you take the time to read the forum you will see that many people think the same as you, as well as many people think like I do. We have all read everybody's opinions and some of us simply agree to disagree... others, not so much.

My only comment regarding your post is something I borrowed from another forum member.

"Queen fans ranting about the band's legacy being ruined are like little kids complaining that their parents are expending their inheritance."

Nothing will ruin Queen's legacy. Everybody can go to a store and buy ANATO or Queen II and listen to it. Future Boxed Sets (yeah, right) and DVD compilations of the original Queen with Freddie will be released for you to enjoy.

Brian and Roger formed a band with Freddie and John. The miss Freddie dearly. They lost their best friend SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO!

They have right to use the Queen name and they were "considerate" enough with the fans to have this project called Queen + Paul Rodgers and not making Paul a permanent member.

The moved on. That's what people do.

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Posted: 17 Sep 08, 20:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For lords sake if you don't like it don't listen I for one do, Freddie is gone & I actually think he'll be sat there in heaven thinking "I could do it better than Paul", the track Cosmos Rocking for example.

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Posted: 17 Sep 08, 20:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Who cares what Freddie Mecury could have sung on this latest studio l.p.? Worried about the music somehow being different? Oh the horror! Worked for Fleetwood Mac didn't it?

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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 04:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't have an opinion on which songs Freddie could've sung except possibly that he could've sung them all - only DIFFERENTLY.

What I do know is that people who turn their backs on QPR are missing some fantastic Brian May guitar, some great Paul Rodgers singing and some really good Roger Taylor drumming. Now, *I* wouldn't miss THOSE if I could possibly help it. :-)


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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 04:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Isn't ironic that it all started with Brian and Roger in the late 60's and now it will end with just the two of them.

They've worked damned hard to make the Queen name a household name in virtually every country in the world (and a few other countries i've no doubt never heard of!), so why should they not use the Queen name now? They do have the decency to have the "+ Paul Rodgers" tag. After all, they will get more publicity and more sales of both album and concerts by using the name they spent their lives building up than if they went by "Brian may & Roger Taylor of Queen" (Or even "Smile" for that!).
Also, respect to Paul for insisting to Brian & Roger back in 2005 that more Queen songs were played on tour than his own.

I missed out on seeing "Queen" live - at the very last minute my Mum decided not to let her 15 year old son get on that coach to Knebworth in '86, "Don't worry son, you can go and see them on their next tour". Yeah, thanks Ma.

Since Freddie's death and the Hollywood remasters of the Queen albums came out where I heard instruments I'd never heard before, I've learned to tune out the vocals and focus listening to the instruments as much as possible.

Frequency extraction software that is available on some "sound software" for the computer has also allowed me to remove or dumb down vocals and lead guitar a lot so I can now listen to the backing instrumentation and backing vocals of all the Queen back catalogue including the new album.
As basic as the new album sounds, there IS actually a lot going on underneath Pauls voice and Brian's guitar that you don't normally hear!

Anyway, my point is this: I wasn't impressd with Paul as choice for lead singer in 2005 (why not Jeff Scott Soto, who can actually sing the songs properly?), so i focused on the music and do you know what? I was listening to Queen. Not Brian & Roger together, but Queen. You put Brian May & Roger Taylor together and instead of two solo artists you get the guitar sound and the Drum sound from Queen. Let me say that again. You get the sound. of. Queen.

So. For those of you dislike Paul's vocals. Go see a concert anyway and just focus on the music.
You aren't going to get to hear Brian & Roger play live together any other way, and if you've never heard them play live together you don't know what you're missing. They are STILL the best damn live band out there regardless of Freddie & John not being around anymore.

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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 05:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

damn straight, be happy for what one has when one has it.

like a lot of ppl i was born to late to see them with freddie. (thank god for live at wembley), but i would give anything to see them as they are now, but i doubt they would come to australia..

any way thats my 2 cents


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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 06:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Still nobody seems to be answering what songs they can imagine Freddie singing. This thread is turning into another should they be Queen things? Partly my fault but I'd be interested to hear peoples thoughts on the original question. Which songs from the new album can you imagine Freddie singing.

And I for one am greatful for this version of Queen as I was robbed of the original when Freddie died too soon.

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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 06:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great album!! I do miss the Mercury songs though.. they always stood out.


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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 07:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

well. i can see him singing through the night and we believe. maybe cosmos rockin


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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 08:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I saw them 4 times with Freddie.. 1980, 1982, 1984 and 1986. I saw them in Hyde Park in 1985 with Paul (and REALLY enjoyed Imagine and Say It's Not True) and I'm really looking forward to seeing them in Nottingham (now the ticket's arrived).


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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 09:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Martin Packer wrote:

I saw them 4 times with Freddie.. 1980, 1982, 1984 and 1986. I saw them in Hyde Park in 1985 with Paul (and REALLY enjoyed Imagine and Say It's Not True) and I'm really looking forward to seeing them in Nottingham (now the ticket's arrived).


Something tells me we were at the smae concerts!! see you in London I guess!


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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 18:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ultimate comparison list (or they sound great together):

1. Cosmos Rockin'
2. Rock It (Prime Jive)
3. Time To Shine
4. A Kind of Magic
5. Still Burnin'
6. Was it all Worth it
7. Small
8. Under Pressure
9. Warboys
10. I Want it all
11. We Believe
12. Teo Torriate (Let us Cling Together Now)
13. Call Me
14. Don't Stop me Now
15. Voodoo
16. My Baby Does Me
17. Some Thing That Glitter
18. These are the Days of Our Lives
19. C-lebrity
20. Death on Two Legs
21. Through the Night
22. A Winter's Tale
23. Say It's not True
24. Too Much Love will Kill You
25. Surf's up... School's out
26. Now I'm Here
27. Small Reprise
28. It's a Beautiful Day (Reprise)

Can somebody think of a better?


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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 18:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think that people are missing my original point. I think that We Believe and Call Me would have been ideal songs for Freds voice. I too am grateful for this new enitity which is QPR and having not seen the original line up live, the closest i've got is Brian at Whitley Bay Ice rink and Newcastle City Hall and Roger at the Riverside, i'm so happy that i, and thousands of others can see and hear the music live again

p.s My girlfriend thinks Call Me sounds like the Woolpackers Hill Billy Rock (Hill Billy Roll) What does she know, she likes ABBA

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Posted: 18 Sep 08, 23:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

brians wig wrote:

Isn't ironic that it all started with Brian and Roger in the late 60's and now it will end with just the two of them.


Ah, but the two of them did NOT start out as Queen in the late 60's. They started out as Smile, and this is clearly not called Smile is it?

Or if you want to go further than that, isn't it ironic that they started out playing all by themselves, and Brian kicks the bucket Roger will undoubtably continue on as Queen... That is how the band started you know!


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They do have the decency to have the "+ Paul Rodgers" tag. After all, they will get more publicity and more sales of both album and concerts by using the name they spent their lives building up than if they went by "Brian may & Roger Taylor of Queen" (Or even "Smile" for that!).


There's no decency in using the "+Paul Rodgers" label. It's a practical decision the two of them ha have made after performing as "Queen" with a plethora of disposable artists in the past decade.

The "+Paul Rodgers" monicker is NOT a problem, as it's extremely descriptive. Just like Queen & David Bowie was the perfect name for 1981.

What IS the problem is half of the band using the full band's name, and like you say, making a commercial profit out of it. Artistically they are gaining NOTHING from it.

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Posted: 19 Sep 08, 04:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe they should call themselves "Que?" :-)


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Posted: 24 Sep 08, 18:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

scottmax wrote:

Has anyone ever thought about which songs on the new album could have sung by Freddie? As much as i'm liking it, it just doesn't seem to be Queen. Just a thought...........


I also thought about it.
After about 6-7 times of hearing through the album I can't really find one single typical Freddie-song...


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Posted: 25 Sep 08, 05:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There are Queen like songs on the album, a lot could be classed as solo material as has already been discussed on here. I just don't think Pauls voice will ever sound right while he's under the 'Queen' name