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Posted: 21 Sep 08, 13:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have not heard the Cosmos Rocks cd, but I youtubed and saw the various clips of the concert in Kharkov. The stage lighting and background visuals are a trillion percent more impressive than Return Of The Champions (I saw ROTC live in St. Paul.) I think the crowds during this most ambitious tour are going to have a great time. I don't think I have ever heard anyone else sing Paul Rodgers' past songs. When he is singing his own songs, he is the absolute best with that low voice singing those bouncy tunes! How do you think Freddie would have sounded doing PR's songs? I can't imagine it. It's an odd thing, but it seems that whatever artist comes out first with a song, no one singing it later sounds as good. Why is that?


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Posted: 21 Sep 08, 14:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe because people get used to the original style and appropriate it as their favourite.

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Posted: 21 Sep 08, 22:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well if Freddie was singing Paul's songs in concert, all the hardcore extremist Paul Rodgers fans would come sceaming things like, "Freddie sounds nothing like Paul", "Freddie should go to hell", "Freddie Sucks!" and so on and so forth.

It'd be vice versa of what we have here.


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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 02:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not True. I think Freddie can outdo the original.

For example, Freddie's Jail House Rock in Montreal was superior to Elvis's version. It was a masterful display of Freddie's Dazzling talent.

Freddie's "Imagine" was also more interesting than John Lennon's.

Freddie was a great vocalist. He would outdo Paul Roger's original versions. I'm sure of it.

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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 04:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Not True. I think Freddie can outdo the original.

For example, Freddie's Jail House Rock in Montreal was superior to Elvis's version. It was a masterful display of Freddie's Dazzling talent.

Freddie's "Imagine" was also more interesting than John Lennon's.

Freddie was a great vocalist. He would outdo Paul Roger's original versions. I'm sure of it.


I've not heard Freddie singing imagine,but i find it dificult to "imagine" anyone outdoing Lennon in that one and Freddies Jailhouse Rock was NOT better than Elvis. We all love Freddie on here but lets not let bias take all objectivity from our judgement of the performace of various songs. To say Freddie did a better Jailhouse rock than Elvis is in my opinion similar to saying McFly did a better Don't stop me now than Queen. This is the sort of thing that you would here from a tiny bopper McFly fan, surely Queen fans have more class and respect for other legendary artists than that.

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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 15:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Not True. I think Freddie can outdo the original.

For example, Freddie's Jail House Rock in Montreal was superior to Elvis's version. It was a masterful display of Freddie's Dazzling talent.

Freddie's "Imagine" was also more interesting than John Lennon's.

Freddie was a great vocalist. He would outdo Paul Roger's original versions. I'm sure of it.


Freddie`s Imagine was different, and John Lennon`s Imagine is the original genuine Imagine, which can be sung perfectly and movingly only by John Lennon.
Whereas Freddie`s songs are best sung only by Freddie. There isn`t a single song which was better performed by another singer. Do you agree with me?

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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 15:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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SomebodyWhoLoves wrote:

Not True. I think Freddie can outdo the original.

For example, Freddie's Jail House Rock in Montreal was superior to Elvis's version. It was a masterful display of Freddie's Dazzling talent.

Freddie's "Imagine" was also more interesting than John Lennon's.

Freddie was a great vocalist. He would outdo Paul Roger's original versions. I'm sure of it.


Freddie`s Imagine was different, and John Lennon`s Imagine is the original genuine Imagine, which can be sung perfectly and movingly only by John Lennon.
Whereas Freddie`s songs are best sung only by Freddie. There isn`t a single song which was better performed by another singer. Do you agree with me?


One of my mates who is also a queen fan but not a compulsive sad one like me thinks George Michaels Somebody to Love was better than Freddies version either studio or the live versions he's heard. I disagree but then again I would because I'm such a fan. My point is that someone who isn't necessarily fanatical might be in a better position to judge who sings songs better if you know what I mean. I think Freddies is better but I'm not necessarily right am I? Beauty is in the eye(or in this case ear) of the beholder

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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, I`ve also heard about George Michael`s singing some songs better than the authors themselves. I can only remember the Beatles` The Long And Winding Road, mentioned in this respect. Actually I listened to his singing and I didn`t like it at all. Maybe it is because i don`t like George Michael though I tried hard to listen to his albums, but NO. Maybe his fans impose this point of view?
But the interesting thing is that it is George M. who is given as an example, don`t you think so?

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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 15:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

George has a very good voice indeed and his version of Somebody to love I have to admit was faultless if you've not heard it check it out. I'm sure its on you tube from the FM Tribute concert. I remember there was speculation in the press about Queen going out on the road with Georgr fronting themquite a few years ago, long before the Paul Rodgers project. I reckon George would do a good job with a lot of the back catalogue but not some o the heavier numbers. I couldn't imagine hime singing tie your mother down or one vision foe example. He also did a decent 39 if memory serves and days of our lives.

Put I'm happier with Paul Rodgers, he's less of a household name if you know what I mean and his fame doesn't overshadow Brian and Rogers as George Michaels may have

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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 16:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

carboengine wrote:

I have not heard the Cosmos Rocks cd, but I youtubed and saw the various clips of the concert in Kharkov. The stage lighting and background visuals are a trillion percent more impressive than Return Of The Champions (I saw ROTC live in St. Paul.) I think the crowds during this most ambitious tour are going to have a great time. I don't think I have ever heard anyone else sing Paul Rodgers' past songs. When he is singing his own songs, he is the absolute best with that low voice singing those bouncy tunes! How do you think Freddie would have sounded doing PR's songs? I can't imagine it. It's an odd thing, but it seems that whatever artist comes out first with a song, no one singing it later sounds as good. Why is that?


When PR left Bad Company in the nineties, they replaced him with a singer - I believe his name was Brian Howe. Anyway, he sounded OK singing the Bad Company stuff, just not as bluesy. Paul really has a wonderful tone that is very unique (like Freddie, of course).

I honestly think that Freddie would have a hard time with Paul's stuff due to the bluesy aspect of it. The few times that Freddie sang blues (middle part of All Gods People, See What A Fool I've Been) I don't think it came off very well. But on the other hand, could Paul sing Exercises in Free Love? That would be hilarious!

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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 21:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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SomebodyWhoLoves wrote:

Not True. I think Freddie can outdo the original.

For example, Freddie's Jail House Rock in Montreal was superior to Elvis's version. It was a masterful display of Freddie's Dazzling talent.

Freddie's "Imagine" was also more interesting than John Lennon's.

Freddie was a great vocalist. He would outdo Paul Roger's original versions. I'm sure of it.


I've not heard Freddie singing imagine,but i find it dificult to "imagine" anyone outdoing Lennon in that one and Freddies Jailhouse Rock was NOT better than Elvis. We all love Freddie on here but lets not let bias take all objectivity from our judgement of the performace of various songs. To say Freddie did a better Jailhouse rock than Elvis is in my opinion similar to saying McFly did a better Don't stop me now than Queen. This is the sort of thing that you would here from a tiny bopper McFly fan, surely Queen fans have more class and respect for other legendary artists than that.



John Lennon's "Imagine" is very overrated. I don't get the entire "Beatles" Mystique. They simply weren't that good. They are like Madonna. She's marginally talented, can't really sing, but boy, a lot of people like her.

The Beatles are the same way.

Paul McCartney can't sing. Neither can John Lennon. Yet many people (mostly Britons) think they are Gods. They're not.

This is going to upset a lot of people, but Queen is vastly superior to the Beatles in every way. Singing? Queen rules. Composing? Queen rules. Live performance? Queen rules. Sorry, I don't understand all the hoopla about the Beatles.


Freddie Mercury's "Jailhouse Rock" in the Montreal 81 was masterful. You have to be a musical noob to not understand that Freddie's version was way better than Elvis Presley.



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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 21:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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There isn`t a single song which was better performed by another singer. Do you agree with me?


No, I do not agree with you. You're telling me that Whitney Houston's "I wil always love you" is inferior to the original Dolly Parton version?

Sorry but Freddie could have sung the entire Beatles Catelogue and do a better version of all the songs. All. the. Songs.

Neither Paul McCartney or John Lennon should be mentioned in the same breath with Freddie Mercury as both Vocalists and Composers.

You're going to tell me that "Imagine" is superior artisitcally and technically than "Bohemian Rhapsody"? Yeah right.

Beatles Songs mostly were simple, and boring.

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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 22:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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April wrote:

There isn`t a single song which was better performed by another singer. Do you agree with me?


No, I do not agree with you. You're telling me that Whitney Houston's "I wil always love you" is inferior to the original Dolly Parton version?

Sorry but Freddie could have sung the entire Beatles Catelogue and do a better version of all the songs. All. the. Songs.

Neither Paul McCartney or John Lennon should be mentioned in the same breath with Freddie Mercury as both Vocalists and Composers.

You're going to tell me that "Imagine" is superior artisitcally and technically than "Bohemian Rhapsody"? Yeah right.

Beatles Songs mostly were simple, and boring.


Another one bites the idiocy.

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Posted: 22 Sep 08, 23:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote:

April wrote:

There isn`t a single song which was better performed by another singer. Do you agree with me?


No, I do not agree with you. You're telling me that Whitney Houston's "I wil always love you" is inferior to the original Dolly Parton version?

Sorry but Freddie could have sung the entire Beatles Catelogue and do a better version of all the songs. All. the. Songs.

Neither Paul McCartney or John Lennon should be mentioned in the same breath with Freddie Mercury as both Vocalists and Composers.

You're going to tell me that "Imagine" is superior artisitcally and technically than "Bohemian Rhapsody"? Yeah right.

Beatles Songs mostly were simple, and boring.


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SomebodyWhoLoves wrote:

April wrote:

There isn`t a single song which was better performed by another singer. Do you agree with me?


No, I do not agree with you. You're telling me that Whitney Houston's "I wil always love you" is inferior to the original Dolly Parton version?

Sorry but Freddie could have sung the entire Beatles Catelogue and do a better version of all the songs. All. the. Songs.

Neither Paul McCartney or John Lennon should be mentioned in the same breath with Freddie Mercury as both Vocalists and Composers.

You're going to tell me that "Imagine" is superior artisitcally and technically than "Bohemian Rhapsody"? Yeah right.

Beatles Songs mostly were simple, and boring.


THE BEATLES ARE GREATER THAN QUEEN, FACT



Gotta agree with you.

The Beatles were better than Queen at producing Mediocre Pop songs.

I'm so glad we agree.

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I don't really like the Beatles either....
Honestly speaking, I don't see the hype in them either. Sure, I did like them in 2nd grade (used to listen to some of their greatest hits on one of my sister's cds) but I didn't think much of them.
I think they are overhyped because they were overhyped during part of the 60s that was the musical revolution era. To me, lots of their songs sound similar or don't really appeal to me. I really don't see anything special about their music. I respect the fact that they have contributed (well I don't think they contributed much..) to the revolution, but I don't really see anything in them... Disagree with me all you want. I won't change my opinion (I hate the fact that people try to make you think like them!). I personally prefer Queen because to me they seem more diverse and I just personally like the way they sound.
But, I wish Creedence Clearwater Revival were as famous as The Beatles in the 60s. There was a time they were really famous in Europe and the U.S. but it didn't last. They have so many gems!!!! True classics, not boring at all! Eh, oh well, not many people recognize them.

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Posted: 23 Sep 08, 06:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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SomebodyWhoLoves wrote:

Not True. I think Freddie can outdo the original.

For example, Freddie's Jail House Rock in Montreal was superior to Elvis's version. It was a masterful display of Freddie's Dazzling talent.

Freddie's "Imagine" was also more interesting than John Lennon's.

Freddie was a great vocalist. He would outdo Paul Roger's original versions. I'm sure of it.


I've not heard Freddie singing imagine,but i find it dificult to "imagine" anyone outdoing Lennon in that one and Freddies Jailhouse Rock was NOT better than Elvis. We all love Freddie on here but lets not let bias take all objectivity from our judgement of the performace of various songs. To say Freddie did a better Jailhouse rock than Elvis is in my opinion similar to saying McFly did a better Don't stop me now than Queen. This is the sort of thing that you would here from a tiny bopper McFly fan, surely Queen fans have more class and respect for other legendary artists than that.



John Lennon's "Imagine" is very overrated. I don't get the entire "Beatles" Mystique. They simply weren't that good. They are like Madonna. She's marginally talented, can't really sing, but boy, a lot of people like her.

The Beatles are the same way.

Paul McCartney can't sing. Neither can John Lennon. Yet many people (mostly Britons) think they are Gods. They're not.

This is going to upset a lot of people, but Queen is vastly superior to the Beatles in every way. Singing? Queen rules. Composing? Queen rules. Live performance? Queen rules. Sorry, I don't understand all the hoopla about the Beatles.


Freddie Mercury's "Jailhouse Rock" in the Montreal 81 was masterful. You have to be a musical noob to not understand that Freddie's version was way better than Elvis Presley.



Firstly, to be honest I don't get the whole Bealtles thing either. But do get the whole Elvis thing and I don't think Freddies version of Jailhouse Rock was better.

Secondly, I don't know what a "noob" is but it doesn't sound complementary. So can I suggest that since we don't actually know each other that perhaps you refrain from name calling whilst we are trying to have an intersting conversation about music (yes just music, not the be all and end all of life on earth or anything). I for my part will try and do the same, not that I had started anyway.

Where can I hear Freddies "Imagine"? As I mentioned before I havn't heard this.

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Posted: 23 Sep 08, 07:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He didnt have bad taste so he never sang in that way


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Posted: 23 Sep 08, 07:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

new one wrote:



Where can I hear Freddies "Imagine"? As I mentioned before I havn't heard this.


Right here

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h8kAeMr1tkE

As for John Lennon as a vocalist, its a well known fact that he hated his singing voice and on nearly every recording he double tracked his singing to help boost it.


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Posted: 23 Sep 08, 07:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for that Mr Mercury.

Very nice indeed, I love hearing Freddie singing other artists songs. Thats not me saying its better or anything but it was nice.