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Posted: 09 Oct 08, 07:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

After countless plays of the new album, and thinking that Pauls voice sounds great on tracks like I Believe, Surfs Up.... and more, Does anyone think it sounds terrible on the chorus of Thru the Night and parts of Time to Shine? I hate being critical cos i think there's too many people knocking him, but sometimes its painful

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Posted: 10 Oct 08, 10:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, I agree. The first two choruses in TTS do sound off key compared with the third chorus which sounds spot on. I don't know why this is. Incidentally, the TTN chorus is the only part of the album that really makes me cringe (naff lyrics also). Shame that, because the verse is really quite good.

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Posted: 10 Oct 08, 11:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But sounds like SHIT on Queen songs!!!.


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Posted: 10 Oct 08, 14:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Something that disappointed me about the album was that his voice was only put to good use on two songs, and those were ones we had before the album was even out.  I find that he has good moments throughout the album, but the only consistently good effort (at least, to my mind) is during Say It's Not True and C-Lebrity.  I'm not crazy about the songs themselves but that's where I think the best performances can be heard on the album.


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Posted: 10 Oct 08, 15:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It has been said over and over, Paul is a good singer, but can never create something that will Roger and Brian will bring back close to the original. Paul is a blues singer, meaning that he uses only a restricted range of his voice. Also the reason why he is acting at this level for so long. For Queen other singers like George Michael or Mika or Robbie Williams were no option, because then it would have been GM + Queen, Mika + Queen, RW + Queen. And our guyse are, perfectly right by the way, not made to play second violin.... And the album is a disaster. If you're in the bussiness for more than 40 years, you do have to come up with something better. Any 18-year old could have done a better job, over all.

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Posted: 10 Oct 08, 16:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Paul`s voice is great! I like it.

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Posted: 11 Oct 08, 06:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

After going to the Nottingham gig last night, i hate to say it but, Paul really isn't suited to Queen. Numerous forgetting of words, no interaction, apart from when singing his own songs, i just find it so frustrating

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Posted: 11 Oct 08, 06:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

At first I thought he did too much out of his voice, because he wasn't Freddie. But he's growing on me, but can't say he's just great... Yeah yeah yeah... I'm hung over and I'm on work on a Saturday......


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Posted: 11 Oct 08, 08:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I tried to photo the words on the autocue - only there during Queen songs and The Cosmos Rocks. It didn't come out, sadly. Of course on one or two songs WE sand the QUEEN way and he sang his way and it was a bit of a mess. :-(


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Posted: 16 Nov 08, 11:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think that he's not like freddy to a certian point that it sounds not like he's copying him, but trying to be original,and sing old queen songs.



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Posted: 16 Nov 08, 14:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Now don't think me rude but...
The queen fan above is writing on a Queen forum and writes the wrong spelling of Mr Mercury's first name!!!
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Posted: 16 Nov 08, 19:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



The Rik wrote:

It has been said over and over, Paul is a good singer, but can never create something that will Roger and Brian will bring back close to the original. Paul is a blues singer, meaning that he uses only a restricted range of his voice. Also the reason why he is acting at this level for so long. For Queen other singers like George Michael or Mika or Robbie Williams were no option, because then it would have been GM + Queen, Mika + Queen, RW + Queen. And our guyse are, perfectly right by the way, not made to play second violin.... And the album is a disaster. If you're in the bussiness for more than 40 years, you do have to come up with something better. Any 18-year old could have done a better job, over all.  

For God's sake BM & RT were not looking for "another FM" or get close to the original, that era is gone, dead & buried, why can't people just accept that!
RT is quoted as saying if nobody likes the new album,then sod it he does, and quite right too! He doesn't need an official stamp of approval from so called fans. He's too old and too long in the tooth to give a toss, plus another thing a series of sell out shows, proves his point
A whole new fanbase is discovering a new Queen, a band with a whole new dynamic, free to try new things, but not free I fear of the burden of the Mercury baggage.







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Posted: 16 Nov 08, 20:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



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.... And the album is a disaster. If you're in the bussiness for more than 40 years, you do have to come up with something better. Any 18-year old could have done a better job, over all.  



 



Whoa...I'd like to see "any" 18-year-old even try to record, produce, mix, perform, and promote (there was a little promotion!) an album within the same class as The Cosmos Rocks.








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Posted: 17 Nov 08, 17:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Getting back onto the subject....... the autocue thing really bothers me as well.  After touring with the band for god knows how long last time around, Paul still needs an autocue for well known songs  that even a ten year old would know? Like i've said before, i hate moaning cos seeing Brian and Roger live is a dream come true, its just so bloody frustrating sometimes

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Posted: 17 Nov 08, 18:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Paul's voice is ok, but let's face it, if Roger and Brian could have robots of the band made (including Freddie) they would do that
Then they would send the robots out on tour

And people would fool themselves into thinking that they had seen Queen live

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Posted: 18 Nov 08, 01:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



yogi wrote:

Paul's voice is ok, but let's face it, if Roger and Brian could have robots of the band made (including Freddie) they would do that
Then they would send the robots out on tour

And people would fool themselves into thinking that they had seen Queen live

pauls voice is great,  but not ideal for queen.  I think people underate how many styles freddie sang, even live.  George Michael would have done good for songs like 'somebody to love' and 'killer Queen' but no way would he be good at hard rockers. Paul rodgers is good at the rockers, but can't sing the freddie songs, he even admitted he couldn't pull off  'I'm going slightly mad'  Freddie did both, he could sing hard rockers and songs like killer queen and somebody to love.   Then fickle fans like 'sir' and other wannabes wonder why he had so many off nights, and need to bring up every bad night he had. 






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Posted: 18 Nov 08, 14:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i kind of like 'Thru The Night' (TTN) for giving the Queen-Project a whole new dimension and recovering what 'Mustapha' should have been, for thus the implementation of oriental tone-scapes (maybe i'm complete wrong with that and paul isn't capable of hitting the correct notes... :-D )the same for 'voodoo' (...ähm... V)...paul surely shows them how to sing the blues (and gives a hint what 'lost opportunity' could have been)...


otherwise the variation of his voice isn't quite expandable as freddies for sure. that brings boring output as time to shine, simply for two worlds colliding...

what annoys me more is the fact that some of the tracks leak of their trademarkable depth (best example is 'we believe' which could have been a wonderful song but is somewhat boring...)
all in all they should have used more of their multi-layer choirs... but it's easy to nag... :-D

let's not forget that this is a debut-lp. a quite good one.


i'm not sure if an album with different guest-singers would have been better for the fan-base... otherwise paul obviously is a good song-writer and gives a lot of input...
let's face it: we are bound to hear PR, like it or not, if we want to follow the careers of the brilliant BM & RT...
i get used to it.



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Posted: 18 Nov 08, 18:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



scottmax wrote:

Getting back onto the subject....... the autocue thing really bothers me as well.  After touring with the band for god knows how long last time around, Paul still needs an autocue for well known songs  that even a ten year old would know? Like i've said before, i hate moaning cos seeing Brian and Roger live is a dream come true, its just so bloody frustrating sometimes



Ok, let me see if I have this right.

Scottmax, a ten year old, can sing songs at Karoake night WITHOUT looking at the lyrics.  Bravo.



Paul Rodgers is a Platinum selling Singer, Songwriter & Self-taught Multi-instrumentalist, has Written, Recorded, Produced and Released 28 albums since 1968, has sold over 90 million records, has formed and led 3 bands to worldwide success: Free, Bad Company, & The Firm, has a Grammy Nominated Solo Career, Has Recorded/Performed with Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Brain May, David Gilmour, Buddy Guy, Joe Walsh, Slash, Nils Lofgren, Charlie Watts, Bryan Adams, Motown's Sam Moore & The Four Tops and others.


Somehow, I'd rather have Paul Rodgers singing the "Ivory" part of Ebony and Ivory with me at Snuffer's this Thursday night during happy hour.



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Posted: 19 Nov 08, 04:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



Micrówave wrote:



 



 



 



 



scottmax wrote:



 



Getting back onto the subject....... the autocue thing really bothers me as well.  After touring with the band for god knows how long last time around, Paul still needs an autocue for well known songs  that even a ten year old would know? Like i've said before, i hate moaning cos seeing Brian and Roger live is a dream come true, its just so bloody frustrating sometimes



 



 



 



 



Ok, let me see if I have this right.

Scottmax, a ten year old, can sing songs at Karoake night WITHOUT looking at the lyrics.  Bravo.



 



 



 



Paul Rodgers is a Platinum selling Singer, Songwriter & Self-taught Multi-instrumentalist, has Written, Recorded, Produced and Released 28 albums since 1968, has sold over 90 million records, has formed and led 3 bands to worldwide success: Free, Bad Company, & The Firm, has a Grammy Nominated Solo Career, Has Recorded/Performed with Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Brain May, David Gilmour, Buddy Guy, Joe Walsh, Slash, Nils Lofgren, Charlie Watts, Bryan Adams, Motown's Sam Moore & The Four Tops and others.


Somehow, I'd rather have Paul Rodgers singing the "Ivory" part of Ebony and Ivory with me at Snuffer's this Thursday night during happy hour.



 



 



 



I think most of the paul haters are very young kids who have plenty to learn.  It's hard to argue with 15 year olds about music,  Paul rodgers is not an all time favorite of mine, but I have to say he's in the top 15 of the best male rock singers ever.






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Posted: 19 Nov 08, 14:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm 16 and PR is in my top 5!!! 4th if you want to be exact...