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Posted: 05 Nov 08, 11:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For the guitarists mostly but others too... what's the hardest Queen song to play in your opinion (up to Innuendo, please)?


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Posted: 05 Nov 08, 12:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Vultan's Theme.



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Posted: 05 Nov 08, 12:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Gnahaha... I'll try answer properly now.

I dunno.  Dead on Time is deceptively simple, and sounds great once you get it up to speed.  There's no real complex playing in Bijou but I'd go so far as to say that's the most difficult one to get sounding 'good', because you tread the line of having to emulate someone else at the same time as having to put feeling into it.
I actually can't say what I think is their hardest.  I'd lean towards some of his playing on The Miracle and a good deal of his 70's stuff.
Thing about Brian, as I said before, is that it's not necessarily technical difficulty that set him apart.  As I can't properly describe what it IS that made him different, I'll back off now and let someone else have a shot.  Haha.



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Posted: 05 Nov 08, 13:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Almost every guitarist has this kind of "template" (of technique and sound/tone), and once you figure it and practice, you can play nearly all their songs easily, even these fast shredders. Dead on time seems a bit complicated, but it's just fast (although I can't play it). I think its drum parts are actually harder than the guitars, but I'm not a drummer so I can't really tell. The live solo (the Brighton Rock part) is just how you set the delays... very very simple.


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Posted: 05 Nov 08, 14:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Theres one bit in "friends will be friends" which i just cant get, im playing the right note, im just not getting the feeling right, i can play lots of other bands songs, but queen is always tricky for me, i always play along with the song first, then if its too complicated, i get the tab, but i like to feel the music first, anyone else apply the same technique? Some queen songs just flow others take forever, but i love the challenge of learning, and being a queen fan makes it even better.



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Posted: 06 Nov 08, 05:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Invisible Man gets my vote!

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Posted: 06 Nov 08, 06:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe Brighton Rock. Not the solo, but the breaks (e.g. the one at the end).



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Theres one bit in "friends will be friends" which i just cant get, im playing the right note, im just not getting the feeling right, i can play lots of other bands songs, but queen is always tricky for me






























































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































And there, my friends, is the answer to the question.

Capturing the feeling is the greatest challenge of playing Queen songs.  As was stated above, the most technically challenging bits are probably on The Miracle, but faster is rarely better in the grand scheme of things.

My best suggestion is for the keen musician to work on the well-known solos (BoRhap, Killer Queen, It's A Hard Life, Play The Game, The Show Must Go On, etc.) and focus purely on the feeling after getting the notes figured out.  Even if you buy all the Brian May gear, the tone that comes from your fingers is the other half of the equation.

If you want play fast stuff, then start lifting Yngwie's music.




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Posted: 06 Nov 08, 13:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Check that... (it won't let me edit the post)...

If you want to play fast stuff, then start lifting Yngwie's music.  And if you want to learn other technical stuff, dabble into jazz/fusion.




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Posted: 06 Nov 08, 14:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Sir GH wrote:

Check that... (it won't let me edit the post)...

If you want to play fast stuff, then start lifting Yngwie's music.  And if you want to learn other technical stuff, dabble into jazz/fusion.


Many jazz musicians are deceptively non-technical, though. Others are. For instance, John Coltrane was quite technical (apart from not using vibrato), while Miles Davis usually played instinctively rather than well thought-out.








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Posted: 07 Nov 08, 00:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote







ThomasQuinn wrote:



















Sir GH wrote:







Check that... (it won't let me edit the post)...

If you want to play fast stuff, then start lifting Yngwie's music.  And if you want to learn other technical stuff, dabble into jazz/fusion.






Many jazz musicians are deceptively non-technical, though. Others are. For instance, John Coltrane was quite technical (apart from not using vibrato), while Miles Davis usually played instinctively rather than well thought-out.

Right, of course... while jazz can be very technical, I realize it isn't always that way.

I knew someone would call me on that !!




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Posted: 07 Nov 08, 07:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Dead on time ... that takes a while to get to grips with I can tell you!


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Posted: 08 Nov 08, 10:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I picked out the ballad part of Bohemian Rhapsody by ear.

I win.


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