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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 12:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Are there any Queen songs without the RS? Of course songs that have any guitar parts...


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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 13:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is This The World We Created?
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I guess Roger songs like Sheer Heart Attack and Fight From The Inside?

Probably more...


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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 13:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Seaside Rendezvous is one I think


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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 13:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Long Away does feature the RS I think, on the guitar orchestrations.

Dear Friends?


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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 14:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

crazy little thing called love


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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 14:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The solo part of Mother Love.

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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 15:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> Long Away

It does have the RS, during the break.

> I guess Roger songs like Sheer Heart Attack and Fight From The Inside?

I think they both have Bri on RS; Roger does play guitars there, but not all guitars.

> Seaside Rendezvous is one I think

Quoting the original post, 'Of course songs that have any guitar parts...'

> Dear Friends?

Quoting the original post, 'Of course songs that have any guitar parts...'

> The solo part of Mother Love.

Of course, but not all the song. For that matter, we could mention the Bo Rhap intro, or the first seconds of Save Me, etc.

Now, songs without the Red Special, in the studio (off those featuring Brian on guitar):

- Drowse: Although not credited for it, I think there's a strong chance that the slide used for the song isn't the RS.
- Crazy Little Thing Called Love
- Man on the Prowl

There are some pix showing Brian playing a Bison during the Opera era, but I don't know if that could make it to final cuts. If so, maybe I'm in Love With My Car's another one without a strong RS sound (compare studio and live versions).

And then again, there are several songs without guitar (e.g. Dear Friends), and songs where the guitar's not played by Brian (e.g. Execution of Flash).



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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 16:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Sebastian wrote:



There are some pix showing Brian playing a Bison during the Opera era,





Are you  sure it wasn't a buffalo?



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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 16:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

- Crazy Little Thing Called Love


Just the Tele, all the time (but the accoustic, of course)? I have to pay attention to that again. At first this made me a bit confused but I was thinking about the live version.

Staying Power? Can't remember if it has a RS solo or something or even if there's an audible guitar at all. Back Chat has a lot of other guitar(s) but the solo is the RS.


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Posted: 24 Nov 08, 17:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Last song on Made in heaven....


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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 04:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What did they use on Man on the prowl? the tele again?


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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 09:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



 



Sebastian wrote:




There are some pix showing Brian playing a Bison during the Opera era,








Wasn't it the Double-Six used on Long Away? I am also convinced that the rhythm clean guitar on I'm In Love With My Car was also this Double-Six....






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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 10:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Princes Of The Universe doesnt have the Red Special

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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 10:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



There is quite a difference between an electric (RS, tele) and an acoustic (12 string, spanish) guitar.
Looking at all of them in the original post, there are quite a few songs i can imagine.


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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 11:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



heafo18 wrote:

Princes Of The Universe doesnt have the Red Special


In the video yes but in the recording...






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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 11:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Play The Game doesnt have the Red Special


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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 11:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



Lester Burnham wrote:



Play The Game doesnt have the Red Special





I think it does. The video has a sunburst strat, but that's just for visual effect. The RS was played on the record itself.





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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 13:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> Are you  sure it wasn't a buffalo?

Positive. It wasn't an auroch either.

> Just the Tele, all the time (but the accoustic, of course)? I have to pay attention to that again. At first this made me a bit confused but I was thinking about the live version.

Live (1979-1982) it was Freddie on Ovation Pacemaker, Brian on Ovation, then Tele, then RS. Live (1984-1986) had Fred on Tele rather than Ovation. But in the studio it was Freddie on Martin D-18, Brian on Roger's Tele, and that was it. No RS, no Ovation, no black or cream Tele.


> Staying Power? Can't remember if it has a RS solo or something or even if there's an audible guitar at all.

It's actually got two guitars: Bri's RS doubling the synth here and there, and John's Tele doing double-stops.

> Back Chat has a lot of other guitar(s) but the solo is the RS.

And there's a rhythm RS as well, doing power chords.

> What did they use on Man on the prowl? the tele again?

Probably *a* Tele, but not necessarily the same as in CLTCL.

> Wasn't it the Double-Six used on Long Away?

Brian had a green Double-Six, but that's not the one I'm talking about. I mean a white six-stringed Burns Bison he'd also got during that era.

> There is quite a difference between an electric (RS, tele) and an acoustic (12 string, spanish) guitar.

Actually Queen never used twelve-string Spanish guitars. They did use twelve-string acoustic (folk) guitars, but whenever they played Spanish guitars (Who Needs You) they were six-stringed.

> Princes Of The Universe doesnt have the Red Special

Princes of the Universe, Play the Game, We Will Rock You, Spread Your Wings, Flash's Theme and Radio Ga Ga don't feature the RS in the videos, but they all have it on the record.



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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 13:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

WWRY and SYW videos do feature the Red Special -- or at least a copy of the RS. It's an odd colour, but maybe that's due to the setting (or rising!)  sun and the bright lights used for the shoot. I'm assuming the topic starter means a completely different brand like a Gibson or Strat?


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Posted: 25 Nov 08, 14:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's A Hard Life doesnt have the Red Special