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Posted: 05 Dec 08, 21:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What a f..kin' cheek!

A mixture of different countries covers. No attempt at giving the fan a complete collection. How much would it have cost to include every country's cover (where applicable)? Working in the print industry I'll tell you - about another 5p - 10p per box set based on the quantity being printed and the size of a CD cover.

The reason for all this shit is that Queen is dead. Freddie has passed away, John has put his head in the sand and Brian and Roger are money-grabbing paranoid old men desperate for former glories (and even more money).

Where's the rest of the Greatest Video Hits? Where's the rest of the Audio DVD's (was it ADATR next?)? Some of us bought these things believing we would build them into a complete set.
Where's a DVD of a gig that would be appreciated by proper fans (eg Earls Court) and not just another gig "from the stadium years".
When this utterly disappointing Box sells as much as a Gary Glitter comeback do you really think we'll see Boxes 2 and 3? Will we f..k.

The stock response from Greg, QPL etc is "No-one is forcing you to buy it".

No, they're not but long-time Queen fans want to collect everything. And business-head Jim Beach and Queen know this all too well.
These people have made a bloody good living out of Queen fans. They are not desperate artists scraping by. So, maybe, they could give a little back. A proper box set of all the stuff we want from the singles all in one place with all the notes. "oh no, it would cost too much for the ordinary fan in these credit crunch times".
Piss off. If it's 160 tracks, that could be, at the most, 16 cds. With a comprehensive booklet easily on the shelf for £60. FOR THE FANS. The regular punter would still only want and buy the Greatest Hits.

Don't buy this box my friends. Treasure your original Queen stuff and precious memories. Brian and Roger are not the Brian and Roger we knew many years ago.



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Posted: 05 Dec 08, 22:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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What a f..kin' cheek!

A mixture of different countries covers. No attempt at giving the fan a complete collection. How much would it have cost to include every country's cover (where applicable)? Working in the print industry I'll tell you - about another 5p - 10p per box set based on the quantity being printed and the size of a CD cover.

The reason for all this shit is that Queen is dead. Freddie has passed away, John has put his head in the sand and Brian and Roger are money-grabbing paranoid old men desperate for former glories (and even more money).

Where's the rest of the Greatest Video Hits? Where's the rest of the Audio DVD's (was it ADATR next?)? Some of us bought these things believing we would build them into a complete set.
Where's a DVD of a gig that would be appreciated by proper fans (eg Earls Court) and not just another gig "from the stadium years".
When this utterly disappointing Box sells as much as a Gary Glitter comeback do you really think we'll see Boxes 2 and 3? Will we f..k.

The stock response from Greg, QPL etc is "No-one is forcing you to buy it".

No, they're not but long-time Queen fans want to collect everything. And business-head Jim Beach and Queen know this all too well.
These people have made a bloody good living out of Queen fans. They are not desperate artists scraping by. So, maybe, they could give a little back. A proper box set of all the stuff we want from the singles all in one place with all the notes. "oh no, it would cost too much for the ordinary fan in these credit crunch times".
Piss off. If it's 160 tracks, that could be, at the most, 16 cds. With a comprehensive booklet easily on the shelf for £60. FOR THE FANS. The regular punter would still only want and buy the Greatest Hits.

Don't buy this box my friends. Treasure your original Queen stuff and precious memories. Brian and Roger are not the Brian and Roger we knew many years ago.



You are an idiot.  You are very selfish complaining that you don't get enough.  Brian and Roger are still performing because they care about their fans!!!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MONEY!

Queen is not dead and never will be dead.

You are just a jerk.  Brian and Roger try to do what they can for the fans but you don't appreciate it because you are a selfish, spoiled jerk. 





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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 01:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If money were the sole motivator, the band would have died with Freddie. The three surviving members of Queen have a good deal of money squirreled away (as evidenced by John Deacon's not really doing anything for the past fifteen years), and don't need to push box sets out to get by.

The box sets being released now are a step in the right direction, perhaps even a step towards the anthology we're all hoping to see someday. As to why Brian and Roger are still touring, I suspect it's because they enjoy it, they've finally found a musician they're comfortable with in Paul, and they more often than not enjoy each other's company. The checks are an added bonus--I don't think anyone associated with Q+PR was expecting Cosmos Rocks to be a Game-style worldwide smash.



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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 04:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



lalaalalaa wrote:

You are an idiot.  You are very selfish complaining that you don't get enough.  Brian and Roger are still performing because they care about their fans!!!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MONEY!

Queen is not dead and never will be dead.

You are just a jerk.  Brian and Roger try to do what they can for the fans but you don't appreciate it because you are a selfish, spoiled jerk. 





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Please tell me what the purpose of this release is if not to make money.  Do you imagine that it is being sold at a loss?

Also, please elaborate on the phrase "Brian & Roger try to do what they can for the fans" - I'm curious to see what examples you feel support this assertion.

Thanks in advance 






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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 08:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Do NOT return this boxset.

Be like me - and do NOT buy it in the first place!



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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 08:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



John S Stuart wrote:

Do NOT return this boxset.

Be like me - and do NOT buy it in the first place!


Here, here.  After being a 'must have it all for my collection' freak for over 20 years, I now find myself with complete antipathy (if not anger) towards the release of this product, and the tiny bit of me that wants it on the shelf is far outweighed by the sensible part that tells me it has been released with no thought (if not with actual distain) towards true fans.






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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 10:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree with most or almost all of what was said, except that I don't think Greg specifically is to be responsible. The main culprit? QPL. Brian and Roger (and John and Freddie's estate) are just getting a piece of the cake as if they had released a "big mega for hardcore fans only" pack or a box with Freddie's diapers, but at the same time they certainly have an important part in the decision of what is going to be released. If not the final word, at least some vetoing power they might (still) have.

They will continue to release these things anyway, because the brain washed completists will still buy them no matter what, and these are ready to be released, whenever the pile of money is lowering they can just throw it in the market, no need to spend money and time remastering stuff or looking for things in the vaults, let's just digitalize some of these old VHS and that's it. I just hope that if they still continue touring that one day I don't see an "exclusive offer for fans" of a package that lets you have access backstage - some bands did that, including KISS.


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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 10:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What else is in this boxset besides the 13 reprinted single covers and their accompanying CDs?


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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 10:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I see both sides.  The heads at Queen productions are sitting on who knows how much stuff we've never heard and may never hear.  To keep rehashing the same songs on compilation CDs that we all have and continue to buy just proves to them that we will keep buying the same songs with different CD booklets.  A proper box set, as we all know, would consist of the hits, b-sides, and unreleased stuff (properly completed or not).  But I don't think all this is in Brian and Roger's hands.  They do have an approval vote though.  It does fall on them to say "Hey, why don't we do this...."  I agree that Brian and Roger love playing music for the music and not to rape the wallets of the fans.  That has been left up to the ticket companies and that just isn't right.  Just as a side note, I have a Queen poster for a show in Indianapolis from 1980 and it states the ticket prices are $8.00 for all seats!!!!!  What the hell happened?  The musicians should stand up to this but as soon as they see the paycheck, they back down.  So where is the line drawn for the musicians to earn respectable money but do it for the fans?


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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 10:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



John S Stuart wrote:

Do NOT return this boxset.

Be like me - and do NOT buy it in the first place!

Excellent advice. As I wrote in a Queenpedia review of the collection:

"...spend your £40 on a band who truly deserves it, on a band who's up and coming, on a band who thrives on integrity. Go see a live show, take the missus out for dinner, or give your money to a charity."


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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 11:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was going to head into town and buy this today, not because i want it, just for the sake of getting it. Dont think i'll bother now.



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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 13:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi, this is off topic, but who created the "Queenpedia" website... I can't believe I've never been on it before. It really is a wonderful site. Is it deemed as an accurate source among fans for Queen info? It seems very informative... really enjoyed going through the album discography and finding out new facts and quotes.

As for this box set... I agree with John S... I'm 30 now... gone are the days I'll just buy a product just cos it says QUEEN on it I'm afraid.

Also really disappointed with the failure to develop more DVD-As... they were so promising.

I think we may see some more things over next couple of years... i really can't see Paul continuing with this venture. I think it's seen it's day and the guys may also realise this. They had a good run though. Impressive tours and a relatively good sounding album (to me anyway).

Sorry if I hijacked your thread a little.


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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 16:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Geez, for a moment I thought Queen had actually released THE boxsets and I had not even noticed it... Luckily this was not the case, afterall I should have known that all they ever release for the rest of eternity will be various repackagings of Greatests Hits. My official prediction for any rarities boxsets will be +10-20 years from the moment that last living original member of Queen has passed away. And that's me being highly optimistic!










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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 17:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Went along to my local independant record shop for my usual browse and out comes the owner who is a friend of mine and says to me that he has reserved the new singles box set for me personally, i tell him i am not interested much to his annoyance, but for curiosity reasons only i inspected it. What a load of bollocks and wheres the fucking booklet and the numerous foreign sleeves that were to be repoduced, mainly UK sleeves by the looks of it. By the way the credits on the back list Greg and Gary Taylor as co-compilers. They were paid to compile a list of previously released material and cobble them together for this set. Amazing.

Anybody who buys this and the remaining three volumes good luck to them, but i would have bought it if it came with a "detailed" booklet and maybe a fold out poster or something but this is not for me.

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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 18:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You'd have to wonder WHY they won't just release anything interesting. They're just too interested in repackaging the same old shit. I think it's fairly safe to say than no type of anthology set will ever be released...... why else have the QPL stooge (over on QOL) harp on about them being "bookend" releases and that once they're release Brian & Roger will stop playing?!?! (code for "do you want us to continue functioning as musicians or retire and release old rarities!) LOL What a load of fucking rubbish! They refuse to release a vaguely interesting singles boxset that requires little work, so the chances of any kind of release featuring totally unreleased material are slim to none. In the next 4 years, at best we're going to get parts 2-4 of this pointless singles boxset series and Live In Rio on DVD.

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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 21:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



lalaalalaa wrote:



 



clear wrote:



What a f..kin' cheek!

A mixture of different countries covers. No attempt at giving the fan a complete collection. How much would it have cost to include every country's cover (where applicable)? Working in the print industry I'll tell you - about another 5p - 10p per box set based on the quantity being printed and the size of a CD cover.

The reason for all this shit is that Queen is dead. Freddie has passed away, John has put his head in the sand and Brian and Roger are money-grabbing paranoid old men desperate for former glories (and even more money).

Where's the rest of the Greatest Video Hits? Where's the rest of the Audio DVD's (was it ADATR next?)? Some of us bought these things believing we would build them into a complete set.
Where's a DVD of a gig that would be appreciated by proper fans (eg Earls Court) and not just another gig "from the stadium years".
When this utterly disappointing Box sells as much as a Gary Glitter comeback do you really think we'll see Boxes 2 and 3? Will we f..k.

The stock response from Greg, QPL etc is "No-one is forcing you to buy it".

No, they're not but long-time Queen fans want to collect everything. And business-head Jim Beach and Queen know this all too well.
These people have made a bloody good living out of Queen fans. They are not desperate artists scraping by. So, maybe, they could give a little back. A proper box set of all the stuff we want from the singles all in one place with all the notes. "oh no, it would cost too much for the ordinary fan in these credit crunch times".
Piss off. If it's 160 tracks, that could be, at the most, 16 cds. With a comprehensive booklet easily on the shelf for £60. FOR THE FANS. The regular punter would still only want and buy the Greatest Hits.

Don't buy this box my friends. Treasure your original Queen stuff and precious memories. Brian and Roger are not the Brian and Roger we knew many years ago.




You are an idiot.  You are very selfish complaining that you don't get enough.  Brian and Roger are still performing because they care about their fans!!!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MONEY!

Queen is not dead and never will be dead.

You are just a jerk.  Brian and Roger try to do what they can for the fans but you don't appreciate it because you are a selfish, spoiled jerk. 




Nothing to do with money???? What planet are you on?

To quote Greg...
 " So you can be assured there was good sound sensible logic behind their brief to us for the revised package/s. It wasn't a 5 minute decision. It was a considered, thought-out practical response with various business considerations in the equation"

"Business considerations".  To spell it out for you - instead of releasing the comprehensive complete box set that we know the fans want at an affordable price, let's release it in 3 or 4 parts so the stupid twats will shell out £40 each time and still think we're doing them a favour. Oh, and hold back some of the more interesting stuff so we can add it to the next set of re-releases so they'll have to buy A Night At The Fuckin Opera for the 27th time.

Yes Greg, we're quite aware of what "business considerations" means. And, no Greg, it wouldn't be a lovely thing to hold - only a reminder of my own stupidity.

QPL and Jim Beach know quite a lot about "business considerations". In the UK our news-stands are infected with a disgusting populist rag, owned by Rupert Murcoch, called The Sun posing as a newspaper. The sort of paper that has young female models with their tits out in skimpy school uniforms on page 3 and then on page 5 takes the moral high ground about paedophiles. A paper that was viciously homophobic. A paper that OUR VERY OWN ROGER TAYLOR completely slagged off in his song "Dear Mr. Murddoch".
So how was "We Will Rock You" promoted when it started at The Dominion? By giving away a CD of 4 versions of the song FREE WITH "THE SUN".

Business considerations, eh Greg? Here's one for you - get a decent job.











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Posted: 06 Dec 08, 23:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've never seen a more selfish group of people.  Why can't you guys be happy with what you have already?  It's never enough with you people.  Just be happy with what you have and stop complaining that it's still not enough

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lalaalalaa wrote:







I've never seen a more selfish group of people.  Why can't you guys be happy with what you have already?  It's never enough with you people.  Just be happy with what you have and stop complaining that it's still not enough






Psst! I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

Don't tell anyone, okay?

This stays between you and me.

Ready?

.

..

...

Queen aren't perfect. This box set isn't perfect. It's a travesty. This will do more harm to Queen's reputation than a million Paul Rodgers ever could. And that's not hyperbole.


Here's another little secret.

.

..

...

We're allowed to criticize, especially against such a shitty product. We don't have to be happy with everything we get, and we certainly have the right to express our displeasure. Not everything is puppy dogs shitting rainbows, y'know. If we just bought it like mindless sheep instead of voicing our opinion, that gives off the impression to Queen Productions that they can continue to release subpar material and anybody will buy it. We don't want to give them that impression, now do we?


NOW REMEMBER, that's our little secret!!!


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Posted: 07 Dec 08, 00:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Lester Burnham wrote:



 



 



 



 



 



 



 



lalaalalaa wrote:



 



 



 



I've never seen a more selfish group of people.  Why can't you guys be happy with what you have already?  It's never enough with you people.  Just be happy with what you have and stop complaining that it's still not enough



 



 



 


Psst! I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

Don't tell anyone, okay?

This stays between you and me.

Ready?

.

..

...

Queen aren't perfect. This box set isn't perfect. It's a travesty. This will do more harm to Queen's reputation than a million Paul Rodgers ever could. And that's not hyperbole.


Here's another little secret.

.

..

...

We're allowed to criticize, especially against such a shitty product. We don't have to be happy with everything we get, and we certainly have the right to express our displeasure. Not everything is puppy dogs shitting rainbows, y'know. If we just bought it like mindless sheep instead of voicing our opinion, that gives off the impression to Queen Productions that they can continue to release subpar material and anybody will buy it. We don't want to give them that impression, now do we?


NOW REMEMBER, that's our little secret!!!


Maybe you all consider it a bad product but that is just your opinions.  Not everybody will think that bad of it.  I don't care if you "express your displeasure" but you could do it in a nicer way.  Nobody is making you buy it and no matter what products they release, they won't harm their reputation.






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Posted: 07 Dec 08, 05:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Dude, it's your own fault.

Detailed information about the box set has been available on QueenOnline.com for ages. If you bought it without knowing what was coming, it isn't the band's fault, it's your fault for not checking it out before spending your money.

When I first heard about the box set, I thought it'd be a good choice for Christmas, and all I had to do was check the press release on QOL. It doesn't hurt to get some information about a product before buying it.



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