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Posted: 15 Dec 08, 18:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know I've already passed comment on the execution of this concept. But I'm afraid I have to add something now that I've actually seen it in it's cardboard glory and (yes Greg) "held it" in my hands.

It's a f...in disgrace. Even worse than I imagined. 

My initial thought was "how is Freddie's original artwork (the Queen word logo) allowed to be used in such a tasteless naff manner? White reversed out of purple!!!! like some 14 year old design students embarassing mistake. Next to a stamp type idea informing us it is part 1. Why not give it some class and, if you're aiming it at the general public, base the design around Queen 2 which has the added bonus of being associated with Bohemian Rhapsody? 

No bugger, except Queen fans from the 70's, will recognise the covers. Queen fans want ALL the remixes etc. It has NO aesthetic value - it's like a giant fag packet from somewhere in Eastern Europe. WHO THE HELL IS IT AIMED AT???

In HMV, where I had the misfortune to bump into it, it is in the racks next to GH1. GH1 has all the hits and more for £5 if bought with another album for a £5. This stinking turd costs £39.95. EIGHT TIMES THE COST and the hassle of changing the f...ing CD every couple of songs.

It is OF ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR THE QUEEN ENTHUSIAST except for a couple of tracks that are, to be honest, forgettable (why they were B sides in the first place).

So, before the Stepfords start, here are a few answers to your questions.

I'm posting because I love the original Queen and detest what QPL have done with their legacy.
I find it hatful that Brian and Roger ever even contemplated getting Jer's (Freddie's Mum) blessing for their sick money making schemes (We Will Rock You), never mind publicising her "blessings".
I am well aware that I am not "forced" to buy anything. My point is that, QPL (which includes Brian and Roger) know full well that their ardent fans will buy what is released because that want to have a complete collection of released material. They therefore have a moral duty to release worthwhile material that is not just another re-release with one or two un-released tracks that make the full-on fans feel obliged to complete their collections.
I will continue to make my comments because they represent the views of a lot of Queen fans who feel nothing but despair at what has transpired since Freddie died.



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Posted: 15 Dec 08, 21:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree.  It just seems like a complete waste of cash.


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Posted: 15 Dec 08, 22:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Who gives a flying fuck... why start TWO topics with the same boring message. The singles box set is shite...we get it! Don't buy it... probably nobody else will either.


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 03:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Speaking about the poor job they did with graphics...

Big companies (like QP is) have graphics standards. The logo of a company is held in high regard because it is the face of the company. Things like the color, font, size, and the color that can be behind it are extremely important. It would seem to me that this would be something they would care about at QP. Perhaps not anymore.


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 11:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I haven't seen the singles box set in person, but I'm not buying it.  And I usuall buy the stuff they put out.  I made a decision after the Stone Cold Classics relase to not buy QPL products unless they were actually worthwhile.  The single box set is fucking trash.  I can't believe they're peddilng this crap out.  What purpose it is going to serve?  That and the fact that the graphics are shit and they used some of the worst covers for the singles (Bo Rhap, FBG, etc.).


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 11:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Hadrian wrote:

I haven't seen the singles box set in person, but I'm not buying it.  And I usuall buy the stuff they put out.  I made a decision after the Stone Cold Classics relase to not buy QPL products unless they were actually worthwhile.  The single box set is fucking trash.  I can't believe they're peddilng this crap out.  What purpose it is going to serve?  That and the fact that the graphics are shit and they used some of the worst covers for the singles (Bo Rhap, FBG, etc.).


Good decision!
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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 11:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For someone who doesn't own some of the B-Side single versions (White Queen, for example), is it worth it? I'll be getting it as a Christmas present anyways....


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 11:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote




This stinking turd costs £39.95. EIGHT TIMES THE COST and the hassle of changing the f...ing CD every couple of songs.


1.  39.95?  That's not so bad.  I guess we'll never have to worry about you delivering the line - "I used to think $800,000 rent was expensive, now it's a day's pay."  Maybe you should drop your negativity about everything and change your outlook on life.



2.  Multiple CD players (like 5 disc, or 12 disc cartridges) have been around for many, many years.  Perhaps you need to spend more than 39.95 on your CD player.  It's pretty amazing what you can get when you spend a little money.  It's hard to earn good money when you're wasting your time buying (or looking at) items you trash and then wasting the time to return it (or put it back on the shelf after delivering a 5 minute diatribe to any customer withing your range of your mindless rants)

3.  Ripping CDs is quite a lot of fun for your average 11 year old.  You put all your music (let's use Queen in this example) onto your computer and then make your own compilation CDs.  It's fun. You can even use a few colored sharpee pens and make your own design.

Perhaps you don't realize that you're like Track 13...  You just keep going on and on about the same old points.  We get it.  You're cheap, you don't like anything Freddie doesn't sing on, and you think a band should cater to their biggest fan... you.  Great.  Thanks for your opinion. 



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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 11:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Clear you have no idea or concept as to what you are talking about.    They have no moral duty to do anything.   Hell they probably have more moral duty to NOT do anything according to some people.     For the one hundred THOUSANDTH time they are just using the dying format of compact discs to sell their singles.    Get a phuckin grip people.    At some point when you all's pants have to be surgically removed from you all from being all in a bunch for too long the things you all are talking about WILL BE RELEASED just not now...

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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 11:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Micrówave wrote:










This stinking turd costs £39.95. EIGHT TIMES THE COST and the hassle of changing the f...ing CD every couple of songs.


1.  39.95?  That's not so bad.  I guess we'll never have to worry about you delivering the line - "I used to think $800,000 rent was expensive, now it's a day's pay."  Maybe you should drop your negativity about everything and change your outlook on life.




For what it's worth, £39.95 is about $80 US. I'm sure you knew that, but what the hey.


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 12:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



Lester Burnham wrote:



For what it's worth, £39.95 is about $80 US. I'm sure you knew that, but what the hey.


Actually, the exchange has improved recently.  It's about $1.50 to the pound.  Yay!  I'm just not bothered either way about this whole singles box thing.  I wasn't expecting much from it, so...eh....whatever.  Maybe I'll be a complete Stepford and buy it eventually, or maybe not.




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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 12:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just to put a spanner in the works on this topic.....I think it's a great little box. And when all four are released will look great together as a set featuring every single to of made the top 40 around the world.....and NOT just in the UK either.
This project was what the band and management wanted, as opposed to the 10 or 12 CD Singles box set that was originally planned.
The use of the original 7" covers, used for these CDs, from around the world.....and not just the usual use of the UK covers, was to make the sets more interesting to fans as well as casual buyers and to give the singles a more international feel.....and not just use the UK covers again.
All the single cuts are as they should be, based on the original 7" releases, which as most fans will know were different mixes to that on the albums.
Most groups have released a singles collection box, and not just the big guns either....so it was about time that Queen were added to this list.

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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 12:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

^^ Heh, I think we've found an employee of QPL here ;)


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 13:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's not only about the useless need of having all those songs again. It's about the total cluelessness surrounding QPL's masterminds. The lack of a nice informative booklet, the waste of plastic for only two songs each disc (I wonder what Brian "Save The Planet" May might be thinking about this) and the missing opportunities: why use some obscure hungarian cover for FBG when they could use the cult-classic bycicle girl cover? (damn it, the could even finally erase the thong - it's not 1978 anymore!). Why not use the original Bo Rhap cover with the band's photo instead of that purple boring one?

Why do QPL still think "let's see what do fans really want to do the exact opposite"?
 


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 15:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



@ Lester



$800,000 was a day's pay for Gordon Gecko.  But actually, your point is well taken given today's times. 








Ok, so the box set sucks.  It's got purple on it.  There's not enough songs on each CD.  Hangman Studio Version is not included.  Wahhhhhh.



But what else is out there in the holiday box set theme?  Who can soak you for the most money?  Where's the biggest bang for the buck?  Keep in mind, this box set, roughly US prices, is about $90.00.



Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue: 50th Anniversary Collector’s Edition  $109.99
 
Often ranked as the greatest jazz album of all time- and, by some, the greatest album ever, “Kind Of Blue” hasn’t lacked for special editions and remastering.

But for completists, this is the one.  With an LP on heavyweight (180 gram) blue vinyl, a DVD, outtakes, glossy photographs, and a book about the recording.

 
Hank Williams – The Unreleased Recordings   $39.99
 
Hank Williams IS country music.  “The Unreleased Recording” collects 54 cuts recorded in a studio by Williams for the Mother’s Best Flour Company, capturing him at his crackling best—with all the joy of a man at the height of his power.

 
Genesis: 1970-1975  $139.98
 
This box collects the group’s five early ‘70s albums, including “Selling England By The Pound” and “The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway” and contains rarities, videos, and lots of extras.

 
Led Zeppelin: The Definitive Collection  $199.99
 
The protean hard rock band recorded 10 albums during it’s 1969-1979 run, and they’re all here: their covers miniaturized to CD size.

 
Roy Orbison: The Soul of Rock & Roll  $ 59.99
 
The drama Roy Orbison could wring out of a song could put an opera singer to shame.  All the hits are here- “Crying”, “Running Scared”, Oh, Pretty Woman” – but so are his forgotten cuts from the ‘60’s and ‘70’s as well as bits from his late 80’s comeback.  Listen and shiver.

 
Nina Simone: To Be Free  $ 49.98
 
This box collects the works of the Black American songstress, a woman never afraid of being forthright with her beliefs.  (“Who else could put out a song called Mississippi Goddam”)
It also contains a 1970 documentary, never before released, showing her as blunt as ever.

 
So the idea that the box set sucks isn't putting it down on my priority list.  I just would rather have the Miles Davis and the Roy Orbison sets first. 



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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 19:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Micrówave wrote:











3.  Ripping CDs is quite a lot of fun for your average 11 year old.  You put all your music (let's use Queen in this example) onto your computer and then make your own compilation CDs.  It's fun. You can even use a few colored sharpee pens and make your own design.


Ripping is fun indeed. It is also useful for helping keep expensive import CDs in better condition, as you would only need to put it inside your drive once, use an accurate ripping program like EAC to copy it to HD and then FLAC it, and put the CD away for safekeeping (unless you also scan the booklets and case as well before doing that).


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 21:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What I don't get is the title "collectors edition". The real collectors items are the originals, since when is a re-release a collectors edition, it's just essentially a copy of the original..

It reminds me of when a movie is released and it's titled "special collectors edition", with extras and crap. Thing is, that's usually the ONLY edition of the film. How is it special then?

Pointless rant but it's funny pointing out the way things are titled. Kinda like when something's released and is instantly on sale, and you just know the sale price was likely the original price :p


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 22:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



shoemanbundy wrote:

What I don't get is the title "collectors edition". The real collectors items are the originals, since when is a re-release a collectors edition, it's just essentially a copy of the original..

It reminds me of when a movie is released and it's titled "special collectors edition", with extras and crap. Thing is, that's usually the ONLY edition of the film. How is it special then?

Pointless rant but it's funny pointing out the way things are titled. Kinda like when something's released and is instantly on sale, and you just know the sale price was likely the original price :p

It's unfortunately the way the market works these days. I'm beginning to think people don't even notice "Special Edition", "Collector's Edition" etc on the packaging for that reason you mention, because most everything only has a single edition anyways. And go figure, a lot of Nth anniversary releases down the line should normally MAKE for that type of special edition, but they a lot of times have even less bonus features than the initial editions.

In my eyes, the only country that *knows* how to properly market separate collectors editions for anything would be Japan. Their collector's packages are immaculate, of top-notch quality, and totally unrivaled by any "special edition" crap I buy from the US, Canada or Europe. The pictures I see for their products online really do not do them justice compared to having it *in your hands* :-)


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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 22:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Micrówave wrote:

Perhaps you don't realize that you're like Track 13...  You just keep going on and on about the same old points.  We get it.  You're cheap, you don't like anything Freddie doesn't sing on, and you think a band should cater to their biggest fan... you.  Great.  Thanks for your opinion. 



 


The best part about these endless anti-QPR/TCR topics is that the stepfords who reply provide an endless source of amusement.








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Posted: 16 Dec 08, 23:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Panchgani wrote:







Micrówave wrote:

Perhaps you don't realize that you're like Track 13...  You just keep going on and on about the same old points.  We get it.  You're cheap, you don't like anything Freddie doesn't sing on, and you think a band should cater to their biggest fan... you.  Great.  Thanks for your opinion. 







 






The best part about these endless anti-QPR/TCR topics is that the stepfords who reply provide an endless source of amusement.



The best part about the trolls is how immature they come across here, along with some of the 'stepfords' like myself :-)

Yet if this were a real life meeting, I'm sure people would not be so quick to throw insults and punches :-)


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