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Posted: 28 Jan 09, 17:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ok heres something ive wanted to do for a while just havent had the cahnce out of these two albums dark side of the moon (pink floyd) <1973> and a night at the opera (queen) <1975> which would you consider being the best sound wise and look wise with cover concept ect ect i love queen but everyone say dark side of the moon has had a better inpact on the music industry then a night the opera but what do you guys think?


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Posted: 28 Jan 09, 20:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it's more fair to compare 'DSotM' with 'Queen II', since they're chronologically closer and have a more similar formula.



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Posted: 28 Jan 09, 20:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Either way Dark Side of the Moon probably had more of an impact.


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Posted: 28 Jan 09, 21:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I shouldn't be saying this on a Queen forum but I feel Pink Floyd made better 'albums', as complete pieces of art anyway.  With an album like ANATO or Queen II, I find that while I like all of the songs, it's not the same as a concept album where there's an actual theme.



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Posted: 28 Jan 09, 22:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Dark Side of the Moon is better than A Night At The Opera and had a greater impact because it sold much more. I think Queen II is better than DSotM but then again, I think it's better than a lot of things. :P Some say Queen II is a concept album but that's up for debate(I personally don't think so).



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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 04:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Zebonka12 wrote:

I shouldn't be saying this on a Queen forum but I feel Pink Floyd made better 'albums', as complete pieces of art anyway.  With an album like ANATO or Queen II, I find that while I like all of the songs, it's not the same as a concept album where there's an actual theme.




most would say pink floyd made better albums than Queen, but I'm not sure if I agree.  Albums like SHA, ADATR and opera are pretty awsome,  Though floyd might have been more consistent.  Even Queen's best albums usually had one dud.




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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 06:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Oh... if only Queen had followed that brilliant idea and had released ANATO and ADATR as a double album...


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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 06:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


I agree with Zebonka, Queen albuns have always been a sum of songs and not concept albuns. The nearest concept we have on the Queen catalogue is Queen II's B side.

As for Pink Floyd (and Roger Waters solo), they mostly aimed for the conceptual format.
As an album, a whole piece, I can't remember a better album than "The Wall". Ever.


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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 11:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen II was of greater artistic merit than Dark Side Of The Moon, IMHO, but DSOTM was better produced and had a much greater impact.



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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 12:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else.


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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 12:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Like with Bob Dylan, I disagree with you.



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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 12:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think DSOTM is more cohesive album. I would almost describe it as a soundscape.
I prefer listening to ANATO from start to finish.


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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 12:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pink Floyd made better albums than Queen (I mean, how you say, more cohesive like an entire entity). But Queen made better songs. Both things are important, but the music still beeing the songs. I think that.



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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 14:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

concept albums??? cohesive albums??? double concept??' What that fuck???

I imagine Freddie´s face being requested about such a thing!!

Go playing some rock and roll, you fuckers!!

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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 14:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Marcelo_argentina wrote:

concept albums??? cohesive albums??? double concept??' What that fuck???

I imagine Freddie´s face being requested about such a thing!!

Go playing some rock and roll, you fuckers!!

So much for your musical credibility.



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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 15:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Holly2003 wrote:

I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else.

I'll agree with the Bob Dylan part, but to say that about Pink Floyd, you should be basically shot for saying that about them.

VERY few people can play David Gilmour's solos like him.

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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 15:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



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Holly2003 wrote:



 



I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else.



 


I'll agree with the Bob Dylan part, but to say that about Pink Floyd, you should be basically shot for saying that about them.

VERY few people can play David Gilmour's solos like him.


So what?  I didn't say they were sh*t, only that I can't get into them. I enjoyed The Foo Fighters' cover version of Have a Cigar rather than the original. Fire away...

ps I saw Dave Gilmore live at the Mandella hall in Belfast about 20 years ago, and it wasn't very memorable at all





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Posted: 29 Jan 09, 16:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen and Pink Floyd are my two equal favorite bands, because they're completely different but both the best at what they do.  Queen is more melody-driven and technically brilliant, while Pink Floyd is pure emotion/multimedia.  It's hard to compare them since it's apples/oranges.

ANATO/DSOTM are both supposed to be two completely different things.  I do think the DSOTM album cover may be the best album cover ever though, it perfectly defines what's on the record and becomes part of the package.

You could make the argument however, that each album is the best each band put out, therefore they'd be about equal.  (Personally I don't believe those are each bands' best albums, but many do.)  DSOTM has definitely had more of a cultural impact though, so that may give it a huge leg up.

One interesting similarity both bands do have is how they were pushing lights and visuals in live shows....


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Posted: 30 Jan 09, 00:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote







Holly2003 wrote:



















 















inu-liger wrote:















 



























 















 















 















Holly2003 wrote:















 















I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else.















 














I'll agree with the Bob Dylan part, but to say that about Pink Floyd, you should be basically shot for saying that about them.

VERY few people can play David Gilmour's solos like him.


So what?  I didn't say they were sh*t, only that I can't get into them. I enjoyed The Foo Fighters' cover version of Have a Cigar rather than the original. Fire away...

ps I saw Dave Gilmore live at the Mandella hall in Belfast about 20 years ago, and it wasn't very memorable at all



Bad comparison. "Have a Cigar" was a crappy song to begin with.
My brother went to see Roger Waters live in Mumbai barely 2-3 years ago and he said it was fantastic.

That said, I'll concede that Pink Floyd can be extremely boring sometimes and you have to be stoned to enjoy some of their music.







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Posted: 30 Jan 09, 01:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Saif wrote:















Holly2003 wrote:











































 































inu-liger wrote:































 



























































 































 































 































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I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else.































 






























I'll agree with the Bob Dylan part, but to say that about Pink Floyd, you should be basically shot for saying that about them.

VERY few people can play David Gilmour's solos like him.


So what?  I didn't say they were sh*t, only that I can't get into them. I enjoyed The Foo Fighters' cover version of Have a Cigar rather than the original. Fire away...

ps I saw Dave Gilmore live at the Mandella hall in Belfast about 20 years ago, and it wasn't very memorable at all



Bad comparison. "Have a Cigar" was a crappy song to begin with.
My brother went to see Roger Waters live in Mumbai barely 2-3 years ago and he said it was fantastic.


I also saw Roger Waters live (in first row!) in 2007. Agreed, it was a  fantastic show :-D
(I also recorded it, in case anyone is interested in a copy!)

That said, I'll concede that Pink Floyd can be extremely boring sometimes and you have to be stoned to enjoy some of their music.


I don't think it's boring really. But for some people, might be an acquired taste.

However that said, not much music will put me to sleep as easily when I'm *really* tired, so I can kind of see what people mean when they say PF's music puts them to sleep :-P