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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 05:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I finally got Furia and I'm not happy.

It's the same fucking riff twenty times. As the album played I literally prayed the next track won't be the same riff, but guess what.

Oh, there are two tracks that aren't the riff, but they sound like French buskers begging for heroin. And they feature no Brian whatsoever.

And what the hell's with the squealing synth pads? They would fit a 1953 sci-fi feature, but a '99 film?

The only logical explanation is that Brian wanted to capture the general unease and pain of watching French cinematography, in which case he succeeded beautifully. But if the idea of not hurting his fans' ears had even remotely crossed his mind, he would have simply released a single "Dream of Thee (Theme from Furia)." Mind you, Dream of Thee is among Brian's best ballads - but not when you've heard the riff 19 times already.




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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 05:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks a lot for the french cinema ; at least they've got some ideas for good stories and they're not full of FX like hollywood crap blockbusters we've got all the time.

Anyway, as I'm french myself I've never heard of Furia outside the Queen community, and never heard the soundtrack itself.

I will be annoyed also if I buy some greatest hits 2 with 17 times slightly mad on it ... :-D

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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 08:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

and did you see the movie?



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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 09:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Me ? Unfortunately, no ...

But if I can find a copy, I sure will see it, just for Marion Cotillard !

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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 09:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This album feature a tango: Cuesta Abajo. Did Brian compose it?
I don't think so, but I'm not sure.



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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 09:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FLASH! A-AAAAA!


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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 10:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Did you ever listen to another actual soundtrack?
And I mean a proper soundtrack, a SCORE, not a soundtrack as in a collection of songs.

Pop any in and count the theme's (soundtracks have THEME's, no riffs!) or variations on that same theme.
It is very common for a score. As a score Furia realy is not that bad.  

But then again... you bash French cinema...
I bet you watch movies from Hollywood!

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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 10:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

pjg god i have been drinking
happy birthday zebonka

i mastubrate to furia


mmmmmmmmmmmmmm



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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 11:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Jjeroen wrote:

Did you ever listen to another actual soundtrack?
And I mean a proper soundtrack, a SCORE, not a soundtrack as in a collection of songs.

Pop any in and count the theme's (soundtracks have THEME's, no riffs!) or variations on that same theme.
It is very common for a score. As a score Furia realy is not that bad.  

But then again... you bash French cinema...
I bet you watch movies from Hollywood!

Incidentally, I listened to movie scores (say Morricone, Williams - even Queen's Flash) and they all feature some variety and development. Compare

If you bothered to learn the first thing about things you pretend to understand, you'd know that the riff is a short repeated musical phrase that fits into the theme. The Furia "theme" is just a short I-IV-V riff with a tonic in Am and dominant in E. 20 fucking times. It's worse than a Ramones CD. You'd really do well to shut up about music until you can at least play "Oh, Sussana."

And yes, French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks. It's either pseudointellectualism without substance or kitsch. The last French film I tried to watch was Amelie; I made it halfway through and then snapped the DVD in half for wasting my time. And why on Earth can't French actors talk and move at the same time?









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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 11:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote







P-Staker wrote:



















Jjeroen wrote:







Did you ever listen to another actual soundtrack?
And I mean a proper soundtrack, a SCORE, not a soundtrack as in a collection of songs.

Pop any in and count the theme's (soundtracks have THEME's, no riffs!) or variations on that same theme.
It is very common for a score. As a score Furia realy is not that bad.  

But then again... you bash French cinema...
I bet you watch movies from Hollywood!






Incidentally, I listened to movie scores (say Morricone, Williams - even Queen's Flash) and they all feature some variety and development. Compare

If you bothered to learn the first thing about things you pretend to understand, you'd know that the riff is a short repeated musical phrase that fits into the theme. The Furia "theme" is just a short I-IV-V riff with a tonic in Am and dominant in E. 20 fucking times. It's worse than a Ramones CD. You'd really do well to shut up about music until you can at least play "Oh, Sussana."

And yes, French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks. It's either pseudointellectualism without substance or kitsch. The last French film I tried to watch was Amelie; I made it halfway through and then snapped the DVD in half for wasting my time. And why on Earth can't French actors talk and move at the same time?
The last French film I've seen was "Irreversible". Yup, that was all I needed to know about French cinema. There are some great French directors like Luc Besson whose movie "Leon:The Professional" is one of my all-time favourites but I guess it doesn't count since it's in English. But French movies in general disinterest me. Some are very artistic(the arthouse ones) but the shitty ones get all the publicity.



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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 11:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


And yes, French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks. It's either pseudointellectualism without substance or kitsch. The last French film I tried to watch was Amelie; I made it halfway through and then snapped the DVD in half for wasting my time. And why on Earth can't French actors talk and move at the same time?



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French cheese is way better than their cinema and that's saying something.  I sat through God knows how much of "Nathalie" thinking I'd see Emanuelle Beart get her gear off and shake that ass, but she was only bumping and grinding for all of two minutes.  The rest of it was that absolute witch shemale MANTHING Fanny Ardant looking mopey because Gerard Dippadidoo wasn't interested in her anymore.  That's not arty, that's boring pedestrian crap.

Who the fuck wants to watch a couple of geriatric Frenchy's yap about their marital dysfunction when they can watch Emanuelle "I Take My Clothes Off and Fuck Dildos When The Mood Takes Me" Beart?



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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 12:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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And what the hell's with the squealing synth pads? They would fit a 1953 sci-fi feature, but a '99 film?


Disregarding for a moment that there were no synth pads in '53...

Anyway, this is soundtrack music. It usually works with a limited number of thematic ideas which, in various incarnations, appear and re-appear. This is not one of my favorite soundtracks, but it's not nearly as bad as you make it sound.








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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 13:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote







P-Staker wrote:



















Jjeroen wrote:







Did you ever listen to another actual soundtrack?
And I mean a proper soundtrack, a SCORE, not a soundtrack as in a collection of songs.

Pop any in and count the theme's (soundtracks have THEME's, no riffs!) or variations on that same theme.
It is very common for a score. As a score Furia realy is not that bad.  

But then again... you bash French cinema...
I bet you watch movies from Hollywood!






Incidentally, I listened to movie scores (say Morricone, Williams - even Queen's Flash) and they all feature some variety and development. Compare

If you bothered to learn the first thing about things you pretend to understand, you'd know that the riff is a short repeated musical phrase that fits into the theme. The Furia "theme" is just a short I-IV-V riff with a tonic in Am and dominant in E. 20 fucking times. It's worse than a Ramones CD. You'd really do well to shut up about music until you can at least play "Oh, Sussana."

And yes, French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks. It's either pseudointellectualism without substance or kitsch. The last French film I tried to watch was Amelie; I made it halfway through and then snapped the DVD in half for wasting my time. And why on Earth can't French actors talk and move at the same time?


I haven't read such an stupid reply for a long time, I hope it was supposed to be a joke.
Ramones have done probably the best music in the history of the USA and French movies are ART.  If you're used to watch garbage instead of art, it's your personal problem but don't forget a lot of people have different taste







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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 13:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, it's crap therefore it's art?

Is it like the theory that if something tastes foul, it must be healthy to eat?

Care to explain what's so artistic about the French cinema? Or you just talking about things you don't really understand like that Jj-dude?

And Ramones would have been a good band... if they learned more than two chords. Perhaps their songs would be possible to tell apart then?


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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 14:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks.


Greatness.

Give me Die Hard 2 over any French film.  Yes, I said Die Hard 2. 
They should have stopped after The Red Balloon and called it a day.

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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 16:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Got the movie, got the soundtrack. I don't like them very much, except for "Dream of thee" which I do like even if haven't heard it in about 5 years perhaps.

I saw the movie twice. When I rented it in my local Blockbuster about 8 years ago and then when I bought the DVD.

It is fairly easy to find it in local supermarkets here in Mexico. There is a company called "Quality Films" that releases movies that a big label wouldn't normally release. Obviously, the releases are very simple in packaging and no special features are included.

Actually, I think I saw both the VHS and the DVD for sale a couple of weeks ago in my local Walmart.

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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 16:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

On its own, Dream of Thee is a great track. It would have been a much stronger release as a single. I believe it would have been a hit, or at least a fan favorite.


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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 17:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Micrówave wrote:

French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks.


Greatness.

Give me Die Hard 2 over any French film.  Yes, I said Die Hard 2. 
They should have stopped after The Red Balloon and called it a day.





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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 18:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It´s just a Soundtrack...what did you expect?

Anyway..I like french movies..I like French cheese..and I love France!!!

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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 18:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The soundtrack is worth the money just for the Furia Theme and Dream of Thee. Some of Brian's best work is on the CD IMO.