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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 09:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Were the fantastic four members of Queen really friends?? I mean were they friends or just work mates???

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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 09:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Just look at Brian and Roger faces at the beggining of that interview one week after Freddie´s passing... and you´ll get the answer.

John of course wasn´t there :P


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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 10:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The interview mentioned above:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in49hph_ZDg&feature=related


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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 10:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not a single succesfull band is a collection of friends (anymore).
A succesfull band is a business consisting of collegues and the members treat eachother accordingly.

Of course to the outside world you make believe that you are the greatest of friends. Friendly people sell more records. But as soon as a recordcompany comes into the picture it is goodbye friendship, welcome business.
A band that refuses to give that up will not stay succesfull for more then a year.

Which does not mean that collegues can NOT be or stay friends in a way.

And about Roger and Brian's faces... if you have been working with someone every day for the majority of your adult life - even if you don't specifically like the person - it has an impact.





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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 10:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote







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Not a single succesfull band is a collection of friends (anymore).
A succesfull band is a business consisting of collegues and the members treat eachother accordingly.

Of course to the outside world you make believe that you are the greatest of friends. Friendly people sell more records. But as soon as a recordcompany comes into the picture it is goodbye friendship, welcome business.
A band that refuses to give that up will not stay succesfull for more then a year.

Which does not mean that collegues can NOT be or stay friends in a way.

And about Roger and Brian's faces... if you have been working with someone every day for the majority of your adult life - even if you don't specifically like the person - it has an impact.





I agree, I think their "friendship" kinda dissolved after getting signed to their label. Before that, I think they were great friends, they went through a lot together as far as I know. I always loved hearing the stories of Freddie and Roger selling clothes on the mean streets of London. Reminded me a lot of Midnight Cowboy. But success divided them. They sure as hell got along in the studio but I remember reading somewhere that Freddie had little contact with "the boys" outside the studio(except John).

One more thing about the interview- I know I'll get a lot of flak from die-hards for this, but - they could've been faking it. Public relations, you know. Brian always seems like he's going to cry during interviews, so I don't know.

But it always cracks me up when some random QZ loony claims that Freddie and Brian were "like brothers". Haha...



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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 11:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



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IOne more thing about the interview- I know I'll get a lot of flak from die-hards for this, but - they could've been faking it. Public relations, you know. Brian always seems like he's going to cry during interviews, so I don't know.

But it always cracks me up when some random QZ loony claims that Freddie and Brian were "like brothers". Haha...




LOL - I see what you mean (and I am a die-hard myself by the way).
Brian is such a great actor. (NOT!)
On the BTTL tour he 'cried' every night during Too Much Love...
On the two QPR tours he 'cried' every night during LOML...

All part of the SHOW - the majority of the fans truly believe that they are seeing real tears...




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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 11:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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LOL - I see what you mean (and I am a die-hard myself by the way).

Brian is such a great actor. (NOT!)
On the BTTL tour he 'cried' every night during Too Much Love...
On the two QPR tours he 'cried' every night during LOML...

All part of the SHOW - the majority of the fans truly believe that they are seeing real tears...

He wants the Show To Go On and isn't averse to faking tears for it. Brian has probably faked as many tears in concert as he has faked orgasms with his first wife.



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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 14:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For what I've read, at least Freddie and Roger were close friends.  Not just before they got a contract - when it seems they went everywhere together.  Didn't they even live together?.  Jim Hutton does say in his book that they kept talking and giggling and that they were obiously close friends.


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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 15:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My opinion about Brian is... that he is a good business man... a great actor... I mean... he wrote The Show Must Go On... What a stupid idea... to let Freddie sing this hard words... in fact the he was going to die... (I´ll soon be turning... right the corner now...) Oh Dear... Look a Queen Rocks... Brian May songs... Money can´t buy happiness...

But John was Freddies best friend in my eyes... A close friend who does NOT need the stage to perform or the cameras to cry...

John is a great buddy... believe me!



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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 15:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jim Hutton actually said that Roger and Freddie were quite obviously soul mates!


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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 15:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie and Roger were friends well before Queen. There are all the stories popping up in Queen books about Roger selling Freddie's own coat a few times at their famous stall.

Now,  money and the stress of showbiz change people, so who can tell how they felt at which point of their lives. They certainly had arguments and periods of not working together. But then, I don't believe bands can survive if the members don't respect one another, money or no money. Take Pink Floyd for example - they split despite money and fame that staying together would have brought them.



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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 18:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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Jjeroen wrote



 



LOL - I see what you mean (and I am a die-hard myself by the way).



Brian is such a great actor. (NOT!)
On the BTTL tour he 'cried' every night during Too Much Love...
On the two QPR tours he 'cried' every night during LOML...

All part of the SHOW - the majority of the fans truly believe that they are seeing real tears...


He wants the Show To Go On and isn't averse to faking tears for it. Brian has probably faked as many tears in concert as he has faked orgasms with his first wife.


God.  Despite the fact that I've seen this attitude before in forums - so called fans saying extremely awful things
about people they supposedly like... - I still feel shocked to read something like that.  Why assume such intentions on the part of Brian and Roger?.  They've never done anything to support your opinions about them.
I mean, they lost someone they had known, worked closely with and were quite probably friends with... they saw him deteriorate for a long time... it is a very sad and draining thing... and to say that, just one week afterwards, they were faking their sadness, and that Brian fakes it now on stage... please.

I don't think he cried before playing that song here, by the way.  He even made a joke before.  In Spanish.  It was very moving, though.






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Posted: 06 Feb 09, 20:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They were bound to have heated discussions are bitter rows whilst writing, recording and producing albums but that doesn't mean they couldn't have been 'friends' away from it all.  Being friends doesn't mean that they had to be in each other's pockets.  As far as Freddie & Roger go, I believe their friendship was always strong - you only have to watch the way they looked at each other sometimes during performances to realise that (both early and late performances) I can't say about John & Brian.

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SamLouise wrote:

They were bound to have heated discussions are bitter rows whilst writing, recording and producing albums but that doesn't mean they couldn't have been 'friends' away from it all.  Being friends doesn't mean that they had to be in each other's pockets.  As far as Freddie & Roger go, I believe their friendship was always strong - you only have to watch the way they looked at each other sometimes during performances to realise that (both early and late performances) I can't say about John & Brian. 

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Posted: 07 Feb 09, 07:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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SamLouise wrote:



They were bound to have heated discussions are bitter rows whilst writing, recording and producing albums but that doesn't mean they couldn't have been 'friends' away from it all.  Being friends doesn't mean that they had to be in each other's pockets.  As far as Freddie & Roger go, I believe their friendship was always strong - you only have to watch the way they looked at each other sometimes during performances to realise that (both early and late performances) I can't say about John & Brian. 


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Posted: 07 Feb 09, 07:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Probably. But I doubt Brian and Freddie were close. John, even if he wasn't a close friend of Freddie's, at least respected, admired or idolized him a lot.



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Posted: 07 Feb 09, 08:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like to take the piss out of Brian as much as the next guy, but this thread sucks.  Accusing him of fake tears.... Jesus, have you seen how worked up he gets on his Soapbox? 
Some fucking people....



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I like to take the piss out of Brian as much as the next guy, but this thread sucks.  Accusing him of fake tears.... Jesus, have you seen how worked up he gets on his Soapbox? 
Some fucking people....


Some of the shit he gets worked up over- he has to be faking it.






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Posted: 07 Feb 09, 10:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One man's trash being another person's treasure, it's easy to see why an apathetic soul such as yourself would look at someone elses blog and say 'bah, why is he getting so emotionally invested in this crap!'.

Regardless, it borders on plain fuckin' retarded for some of the people in this thread to go 'oh, yeah, he's faking those tears'.  As if those twats would even know...



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Posted: 07 Feb 09, 11:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian has hidden a few onions in his accoustic guitar, that explains it.


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