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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 00:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I ask this because of some of the lyrics or his earlier songs that he wrote ex: Mad the Swine (contents of the lyrics), Lily of the Valley etc.



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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 00:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 02:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He was not a christian, but he sure was opened to the concep of that religion, maybe he believed on jesus, at least, he believe on christmas, and on the book of Jim, he said that he prayed for him when he noticed that freddie was dead, that makes me think that maybe they have already done something like that when freddie was seriously ill... well, anyways, I hope he is in heaven, if such place exist, because I intend to go there to talk to him, and maybe we can sing something together... jajaja... and, if he is in hell like he said he will be, i´ll try to go visit...


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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 05:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He wasn't a very good one!



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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 05:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was a christian at some point of his life


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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 06:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



RETROLOVE wrote:

I ask this because of some of the lyrics or his earlier songs that he wrote ex: Mad the Swine (contents of the lyrics), Lily of the Valley etc.



You dont have to be religious to write songs concerning stuff related to religion.






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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 06:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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You dont have to be religious to write songs concerning stuff related to religion.


Exactly.  Religious texts are about as useful as toilet paper as far as facts are concerned, but there's good storytelling in all of them.  If you look hard enough, that is.  There's usually a lot of misogyny (probably spelled that wrong) in there that you have to sift through.








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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 07:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Zebonka12 wrote:







Mr Mercury wrote:




You dont have to be religious to write songs concerning stuff related to religion.



Exactly.  Religious texts are about as useful as toilet paper as far as facts are concerned, but there's good storytelling in all of them.  If you look hard enough, that is.  There's usually a lot of misogyny (probably spelled that wrong) in there that you have to sift through.


Violence, genocide, rape, you name it. Have a look at Leviticus in the Old Testament; and then there are these far-right freaks who say the Quran is a violent book...



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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 12:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



RETROLOVE wrote:

I ask this because of some of the lyrics or his earlier songs that he wrote ex: Mad the Swine (contents of the lyrics), Lily of the Valley etc.

i've pasted the lyrics here - so that you can try explain:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"I am forever searching high and low But why does everybody tell me no
Neptune of the seas Have you an answer for me please
And the lily of the valley doesnt know

I lie in wait with open eyes I carry on through stormy skies
I follow every course My kingdom for a horse
But each time I grow old
Serpent of the nile Relieve me for a while
And cast me from your spell and let me go

Messenger from seven seas has flown To tell the king of rhye hes lost his throne
Wars will never cease Is there time enough for peace
But the lily of the valley doesnt know"
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

ok. now i see some mythology, some Shakespeare and even some ancient Egypt...but lo and behold NO CHRISTIANITY...can someone please tell me what i missed








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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 17:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



brENsKi wrote:



 



RETROLOVE wrote:



I ask this because of some of the lyrics or his earlier songs that he wrote ex: Mad the Swine (contents of the lyrics), Lily of the Valley etc.


i've pasted the lyrics here - so that you can try explain:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"I am forever searching high and low But why does everybody tell me no
Neptune of the seas Have you an answer for me please
And the lily of the valley doesnt know

I lie in wait with open eyes I carry on through stormy skies
I follow every course My kingdom for a horse
But each time I grow old
Serpent of the nile Relieve me for a while
And cast me from your spell and let me go

Messenger from seven seas has flown To tell the king of rhye hes lost his throne
Wars will never cease Is there time enough for peace
But the lily of the valley doesnt know"
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

ok. now i see some mythology, some Shakespeare and even some ancient Egypt...but lo and behold NO CHRISTIANITY...can someone please tell me what i missed






I don't see it either in that song.  But what about Jesus and Liar...

Jim did say that freddie used to pray before going to sleep, and I think Peter said that as well...  And Freddie did mention God in many lyrics.

Like someone said, you don't necessarily have to be a Christian to write about religion, but it seems likely...
In any case, I didn't say "God" when I was an atheist...





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Posted: 12 Feb 09, 22:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



RETROLOVE wrote:

I ask this because of some of the lyrics or his earlier songs that he wrote ex: Mad the Swine (contents of the lyrics), Lily of the Valley etc.

I think it's possible that he might have come around to the concept of accepting and believing in Christ. But will we ever really know? Not until our time comes...

And as a final note...FUCK HUMANISTS.








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RETROLOVE wrote:



I ask this because of some of the lyrics or his earlier songs that he wrote ex: Mad the Swine (contents of the lyrics), Lily of the Valley etc.


I think it's possible that he might have come around to the concept of accepting and believing in Christ. But will we ever really know? Not until our time comes...

And as a final note...FUCK HUMANISTS.






That's right! Fuck the ones that are more religious than most Christians or Muslims I know and don't know how to keep their fucking mouths shut and their beliefs to themselves.








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Posted: 13 Feb 09, 02:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Organized religion is for weakminded and stupid people.


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Treasure Moment wrote:

Organized religion is for weakminded and stupid people.

Am I to understand from this that you've converted? To Christianity, or Islam, or what?



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Posted: 13 Feb 09, 07:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



redspecialusa wrote:







RETROLOVE wrote:



I ask this because of some of the lyrics or his earlier songs that he wrote ex: Mad the Swine (contents of the lyrics), Lily of the Valley etc.


I think it's possible that he might have come around to the concept of accepting and believing in Christ. But will we ever really know? Not until our time comes...

And as a final note...FUCK HUMANISTS.



Oh great, a deranged fanatic.



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ThomasQuinn wrote:



 



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Organized religion is for weakminded and stupid people.


Am I to understand from this that you've converted? To Christianity, or Islam, or what?


no but that fits you so wouldnt be surprised if you are a christian or muslim







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Posted: 13 Feb 09, 13:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Treasure Moment wrote:

Organized religion is for weakminded and stupid people.





So is making blanket statements that judge millions of individuals.  I've no personal love for organized religion, but come ON, man. 



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LozIan wrote:



 



Treasure Moment wrote:



Organized religion is for weakminded and stupid people.






So is making blanket statements that judge millions of individuals.  I've no personal love for organized religion, but come ON, man. 





well you have to be somewhat stupid to believe in MAN MADE fairy tales as "gods" words. Its literally like a childrens story book which doesnt make any sense at all.





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ThomasQuinn wrote:







redspecialusa wrote:



















RETROLOVE wrote:







I ask this because of some of the lyrics or his earlier songs that he wrote ex: Mad the Swine (contents of the lyrics), Lily of the Valley etc.






I think it's possible that he might have come around to the concept of accepting and believing in Christ. But will we ever really know? Not until our time comes...

And as a final note...FUCK HUMANISTS.



Oh great, a deranged fanatic.

I'm afraid you're mistaken. I'm neither deranged, or a fanatic. Nice try though.








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Posted: 14 Feb 09, 23:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Secular humanism ftw.



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