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Posted: 26 Apr 09, 14:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just listening to Sweet Lady live at Hyde Park: this song rocks.
 
That is all.




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Posted: 26 Apr 09, 15:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 26 Apr 09, 17:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I dont mind the song at all. Its not the best song by a long chalk, but its certainly not the worst. I think what puts some people off is its unusual time signature (at least for a rock song). If memory serves me correctly its in 6/8 time and not your standard 4/4. Its this that some people cant get to grips with.


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Posted: 26 Apr 09, 19:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The song is good. I stand in its defense fighting side by side with you. lol  

 




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Posted: 26 Apr 09, 20:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

6/8 isn't an unusual time signature (neither for rock nor for other genres). It's not 'the most usual' but it's not unusual at all. Is India an underpopulated country just because it's not the top one?

15/16 is an unusual time signature.
7/8, 7/4, 15/4... but not 6/8



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Posted: 26 Apr 09, 20:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sweet lady! Great song to play. Roger's rolling across the toms are joyful.

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Posted: 26 Apr 09, 22:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think what's a bit unusual is that it's a heavy riff based rock song in that time signature but it doesn't mean it's unique or special in any way. That doesn't save the song at all but IMO the worst thing about it are the lyrics.

"You call me sweet like I'm some kind of cheese waiting on the shelf" is on par with some of the worst lyrics in TCR. I cringe every time I hear it.

I kinda imagine Freddie waiting until the very last second before recording that vocal bit and asking Brian: "REALLY? Frickin' Cheese?". :D

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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 01:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the song is ok, but is my least favorite on a night at the opera.  The song has some weak lryics, but who gives a rats ass about that. Queen were never about writing the greatest lryics anyway.  I'm in love with my car anyone?....Also,  the chorus sounds a bit messy.  All in all, it's not a bad song.

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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 01:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's really not that great a song.  Fantastic performance by the band, but Freddie's overdubs are pretty sloppy.  Naturally, they sound better in context as overdubs.


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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 02:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The song is pretty cool. Always makes me want to go to the kitchen and 'cut some cheese' LoL!!! HA HA HA HA!!!

But really, the song isn't my favorite, but there's a lot of other Queen song's I enjoy less. I personally have no problem with the song, except that the lyrics are not catchy, nor are they sophisticated, and that is a problem for a lot of people.



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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 04:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not a huge fan of SL, but it does work very well live - much better than the studio version IMO.

Hmm - a song in 15/16 time - now that I'd like to hear.



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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 04:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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I dont mind the song at all. Its not the best song by a long chalk, but its certainly not the worst. I think what puts some people off is its unusual time signature (at least for a rock song). If memory serves me correctly its in 6/8 time and not your standard 4/4. Its this that some people cant get to grips with.


I'm In Love With My Car is in 6/8 and it's a great rock song. WATC and  Winter's Tale are also in 6/8. Obviously time signature alone doesn't explain why this song is not appreciated.


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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 04:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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I dont mind the song at all. Its not the best song by a long chalk, but its certainly not the worst. I think what puts some people off is its unusual time signature (at least for a rock song). If memory serves me correctly its in 6/8 time and not your standard 4/4. Its this that some people cant get to grips with.



I'm In Love With My Car is in 6/8 and it's a great rock song. WATC and  Winter's Tale are also in 6/8. Obviously time signature alone doesn't explain why this song is not appreciated.

Isnt WATC in 3/4?








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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 04:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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6/8 isn't an unusual time signature (neither for rock nor for other genres). It's not 'the most usual' but it's not unusual at all. Is India an underpopulated country just because it's not the top one?

15/16 is an unusual time signature.
7/8, 7/4, 15/4... but not 6/8


6/8 is about the 3rd most common time signature (after 4/4 and 8/8) in popular music, and probably the 4th most common in folk and jazz (after 2/4, 4/4 and 8/8). In fact, it's used more often than the ironically better known 3/4 (waltz time).






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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 11:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sweet Lady is in 3/4 (BM said so himself in the ANATO-making of).
Songs like We Are The Champions, I'm In Love With My Car and Somebody To Love (and others) are 6/8 timing.

I actually do like Sweet Lady, but the music more than the lyrics.


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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 11:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it all comes down to taste and personally i cant stand the song [its that cheese line] but then again i am listening and singing along to a LibertyX song at the mo so what do i know...
i shall now go back to my darkened corner of the room :-p


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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 12:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



 



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I dont mind the song at all. Its not the best song by a long chalk, but its certainly not the worst. I think what puts some people off is its unusual time signature (at least for a rock song). If memory serves me correctly its in 6/8 time and not your standard 4/4. Its this that some people cant get to grips with.



 



I'm In Love With My Car is in 6/8 and it's a great rock song. WATC and  Winter's Tale are also in 6/8. Obviously time signature alone doesn't explain why this song is not appreciated.




What I meant by the time signature quote is that its not a time signature that most rock audiences can dance to (if you can call headbanging a dance - lol) because there is "something not quite right". Dave Brubeck is a classic example of writing a song that doesnt fit normal dance signatures. His most famous song, Take Five, is in 5/4 time. He himself said something along the line of that song being one that traditional style dancers couldnt cope with because there was an extra beat in the bar. Its like it throws them out of step.

Maybe this explains at least one theory as to why SL isnt enjoyed as much by us Queen fans, although like I said I do like the song.





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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 12:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:

it all comes down to taste and personally i cant stand the song [its that cheese line] but then again i am listening and singing along to a LibertyX song at the mo so what do i know...
i shall now go back to my darkened corner of the room :-p





Joxer, werent you also listening to Baccara or the Nolans a couple of weeks back?




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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 13:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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I'm not a huge fan of SL, but it does work very well live - much better than the studio version IMO.

Hmm - a song in 15/16 time - now that I'd like to hear.



I'm sure there's a 15/16 song on Biffy Clyro's Puzzle album. And I've got a feeling it might actually be called 15. Been a while since I've listened mind you.





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Posted: 27 Apr 09, 16:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


The song is great as all Queen early songs are. I can`t imagine the album without this song.