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Posted: 11 May 09, 11:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Do you have any guilty pleasure favourites?



I have one big guilty pleasure favourite band: Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi was one of the first bands that I ever liked because I loved the big choruses and the irresistible hooks in their songs. Since then my musical tastes have changed and most of the music I listen to is very far from Bon Jovi (I'm probably the only person in the world who likes both Radiohead and BJ), but this band has kind of stuck with me. I'm not a huge Bon Jovi fan and I don't like any of their new stuff at all, but I still like their albums from the late 1980s and 1990s. The problem is, it's hardly fashionable to like this band and they have never exactly been the critic's choice if you know what I mean. We know the deal with this band: they are an extremely slick and commercial band that makes bland, middle of the road songs and making money has always been more important to them than making music. Their lyrics are not very deep (to put it nicely), they always do the same songs over and over again, they love to pose in photographs and show their unnaturally white teeth. The band's image is terrible and their audience mostly consists of 40-year-old women ("soccer moms") who stare at Jon Bon Jovi's butt while their husband is at work. I can't watch live bootlegs of this band because I can't stand the sight of this guy making huge smiles and wiggling his ass to the women. This is all bad stuff and it's not hard to understand why they have never had any respect from critics and fellow musicians. And all this makes it very hard for me to accept that I still like (some of) their music. I'm often on the verge of taking all of their albums to a second-hand music shop but then I put in the stereo some old song of theirs that I always liked, like "I Believe", "Someday I'll Be Saturday Night" or "Something For The Pain", and I realise that I still honestly like those songs. Yeah, Bon Jovi music is clichéd and shallow, but at their best times their songs were inspired and genuine to them, and "Bad Medicine" is still a fun, brainless rock song and some songs like "Bitter Wine" or "These Days" are surprisingly beautiful. So I say fuck 'em all. I mean, I'd be a real coward if I rejected some band that I like simply because I "shouldn't" like them, and decided my music favourites solely based on what critics and other music fans like, right? So Bon Jovi continues to be my secret love... I'll never admit in public that I like them, but once or twice a year I listen to an old Jovi album to get that guilty pleasure.



Do you have a similar situation with any band?



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Posted: 11 May 09, 12:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Do you have any guilty pleasure favourites?



 



I have one big guilty pleasure favourite band: Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi was one of the first bands that I ever liked because I loved the big choruses and the irresistible hooks in their songs. Since then my musical tastes have changed and most of the music I listen to is very far from Bon Jovi (I'm probably the only person in the world who likes both Radiohead and BJ), but this band has kind of stuck with me. I'm not a huge Bon Jovi fan and I don't like any of their new stuff at all, but I still like their albums from the late 1980s and 1990s. The problem is, it's hardly fashionable to like this band and they have never exactly been the critic's choice if you know what I mean. We know the deal with this band: they are an extremely slick and commercial band that makes bland, middle of the road songs and making money has always been more important to them than making music. Their lyrics are not very deep (to put it nicely), they always do the same songs over and over again, they love to pose in photographs and show their unnaturally white teeth. The band's image is terrible and their audience mostly consists of 40-year-old women ("soccer moms") who stare at Jon Bon Jovi's butt while their husband is at work. I can't watch live bootlegs of this band because I can't stand the sight of this guy making huge smiles and wiggling his ass to the women. This is all bad stuff and it's not hard to understand why they have never had any respect from critics and fellow musicians. And all this makes it very hard for me to accept that I still like (some of) their music. I'm often on the verge of taking all of their albums to a second-hand music shop but then I put in the stereo some old song of theirs that I always liked, like "I Believe", "Someday I'll Be Saturday Night" or "Something For The Pain", and I realise that I still honestly like those songs. Yeah, Bon Jovi music is clichéd and shallow, but at their best times their songs were inspired and genuine to them, and "Bad Medicine" is still a fun, brainless rock song and some songs like "Bitter Wine" or "These Days" are surprisingly beautiful. So I say fuck 'em all. I mean, I'd be a real coward if I rejected some band that I like simply because I "shouldn't" like them, and decided my music favourites solely based on what critics and other music fans like, right? So Bon Jovi continues to be my secret love... I'll never admit in public that I like them, but once or twice a year I listen to an old Jovi album to get that guilty pleasure.



 



Do you have a similar situation with any band?



 


Hi, aion! How are you? I hope you're doing fine.

Ah, I love this topic. :-)) Thanks for opening the thread. It's happened to me so many times, and it still happens. I have a similar situation with a lot of bands, some of which it would be really embarrassing to mention. I have lost count of how many lonely nights I spent as a teenager listening to Bon Jovi's "In These Arms" on the discman while letting myself fall into a deep, platonic and romantic sleep. :))) 

"Baby I want yooou, like the roses want the rain". 

There's one by Mick Jagger I listen to up until today: the song is so ridiculously catchy and the lyrics are so absolutely and deliciously lame that I couldn't avoid being hooked on it: it's called "Throwaway". 

Lo and behold! It's more embarrassing than Bon Jovi could ever get - it's all so lame and deliciously ridiculous. And catchy! The lyrics are priceless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUhn-vUT5Po 

It's worth listening. :)

"I used to play the Casanova, faster than a roller coster..." Hahaha. 

Hug,

Yara
  








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Posted: 11 May 09, 20:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Guilty pleasures:
Joan Jett & The Black Hearts, Dio, Quiet Riot, Poison, and Whitesnake



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why would dio be a guilty pleasure? he's considered one of the best metal singers ever and for a good reason. who else can say he (or she) made 3 classic albums with 3 differents bands like dio did with rainbow (rising), sabbath (heaven and hell) and his band dio (holy diver). no one should put dio in the guilty pleasure music, he's nothing like bon jovi (i like some songs), ratt, poison, cinderella or other shit hair metal bands



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Posted: 12 May 09, 19:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't have any 'guilty pleasure' music. If I like something, I like it. No need to feel guilty about it.



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Dan Corson V: December Boy wrote:

I don't have any 'guilty pleasure' music. If I like something, I like it. No need to feel guilty about it.






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why would dio be a guilty pleasure? he's considered one of the best metal singers ever and for a good reason. who else can say he (or she) made 3 classic albums with 3 differents bands like dio did with rainbow (rising), sabbath (heaven and hell) and his band dio (holy diver). no one should put dio in the guilty pleasure music, he's nothing like bon jovi (i like some songs), ratt, poison, cinderella or other shit hair metal bands

True! Dio is a fucking legend...and don't group Bon Jovi with the hair metal bands... it's an insult to them. :P



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Posted: 13 May 09, 12:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, I like Dio, but not many around my area seem to. However, they don't even like my non-guilty pleasure music so I guess you guys have good points.Ah, fuckin' mainstream music these days. At school I have to hear "blame it on the al-al-al-co-hol babay" at least ten times a day and it's enough to make me want to smash a bottle of al-al-al-co-hol over some ditzy bitch's purty fake tan and artifically blonde head.

And, for the record, Holy Diver is the one song I listen to to pump me up before going on a great trek. I love it.


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why would dio be a guilty pleasure? he's considered one of the best metal singers ever and for a good reason. who else can say he (or she) made 3 classic albums with 3 differents bands like dio did with rainbow (rising), sabbath (heaven and hell) and his band dio (holy diver). no one should put dio in the guilty pleasure music, he's nothing like bon jovi (i like some songs), ratt, poison, cinderella or other shit hair metal bands


Indeed Dio is not a guilty pleasure at all. I saw the guy on his Holy Diver tour all those years ago. He was superb then as he is now.


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Dan Corson V: December Boy wrote:



I don't have any 'guilty pleasure' music. If I like something, I like it. No need to feel guilty about it.



 



 



 



That's like me.




And the same with me. My mates used to find it funny how I could go from ABBA to Queen to Toyah to Bing Crosby to The Nolans and Thin Lizzy usually one after the other. Its simple really. I like what I like and I couldnt care less what anybody else thinks about that.






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You guys have pretty much said all I wanted to say. I love 80's rock and metal bands like Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, Dokken etc, but I don't feel guilty about it. I do however also have a small liking for Catherdal choir music which I'm not so fond of letting everyone know I like.




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You guys have pretty much said all I wanted to say. I love 80's rock and metal bands like Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, Dokken etc, but I don't feel guilty about it. I do however also have a small liking for Catherdal choir music which I'm not so fond of letting everyone know I like.





Ohhhhhh! I see you like Yngwie Malmsteen?! Yay. :D




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Yeah I do. Among my favourite genres of music, shred guitar is definitely up there! Even though he's mostly known for his blinding speed, I think people should give his more ballad-type stuff a listen - there's some really good songs there. :P


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Yara wrote:

Hi, aion! How are you? I hope you're doing fine.

Ah, I love this topic. :-)) Thanks for opening the thread. It's happened to me so many times, and it still happens. I have a similar situation with a lot of bands, some of which it would be really embarrassing to mention. I have lost count of how many lonely nights I spent as a teenager listening to Bon Jovi's "In These Arms" on the discman while letting myself fall into a deep, platonic and romantic sleep. :))) 

"Baby I want yooou, like the roses want the rain". 

There's one by Mick Jagger I listen to up until today: the song is so ridiculously catchy and the lyrics are so absolutely and deliciously lame that I couldn't avoid being hooked on it: it's called "Throwaway". 

Lo and behold! It's more embarrassing than Bon Jovi could ever get - it's all so lame and deliciously ridiculous. And catchy! The lyrics are priceless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUhn-vUT5Po 

It's worth listening. :)

"I used to play the Casanova, faster than a roller coster..." Hahaha. 

Hug,

Yara




Oh man, that Mick Jagger song is terrible! :)







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Dan Corson V: December Boy wrote:

I don't have any 'guilty pleasure' music. If I like something, I like it. No need to feel guilty about it.



I wish it was that simple. I always feel that I'm not a "real" music fan because I like Bon Jovi. It's even more embarrassing because I'm a guy and this band has all those sappy, syrupy power ballads which men shouldn't like at all. Bon Jovi is my dark secret.









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why would dio be a guilty pleasure? he's considered one of the best metal singers ever and for a good reason. who else can say he (or she) made 3 classic albums with 3 differents bands like dio did with rainbow (rising), sabbath (heaven and hell) and his band dio (holy diver). no one should put dio in the guilty pleasure music, he's nothing like bon jovi (i like some songs), ratt, poison, cinderella or other shit hair metal bands


True! Dio is a fucking legend...and don't group Bon Jovi with the hair metal bands... it's an insult to them. :P


Insult to Bon Jovi or insult to hair metal bands?



And yeah, I also don't think Dio is guilty pleasure.



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Posted: 18 May 09, 11:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

People should be on their knees wishing they were half as great as Dio....

Bon Jovi on the other hand, would better serve mankind if he were sent to Pluto forever.

Lost Highway?  Do us a favour and stay lost, Mister Jovi...


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People should be on their knees wishing they were half as great as Dio....

Bon Jovi on the other hand, would better serve mankind if he were sent to Pluto forever.



Lost Highway?  Do us a favour and stay lost, Mister Jovi...




I don't have that album as I can't stand any recent BJ albums, but I've heard the song Lost Highway and it's one of the worst songs ever made by anyone... it's so bad it isn't even funny anymore, it's just utterly unlistenable garbage. Of course most people would say that about all Bon Jovi songs, but I still like the old ones.







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Indeed; to be entirely truthful I really don't know any of his old stuff.  I know that hearing Lost Highway too many times at my favourite restaurant has made me not want to really know any of his catalogue at all...

Not that one stick in the mud like me would make a difference!


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