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Posted: 12 May 09, 08:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi everyone !

As this one was just previously shared in the gigantic torrent for year 1984, but with unknown lineage and some Sector Boundaries Errors (SBE), here is my copy, directly from the silvers : no SBE's + a clear lineage, direct from the silvers, that should replace the version shared previously.


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NOT FADE AWAY
From The Silvers.
 
Lineage : Not Fade Away (silvers) > WAV (EAC) > Flac level 8 (Traders' Little Helper)
 

Comments : it's a recording of the London show on 4th September 1984, the best copy available of that show. check out www.queenlive.ca for some interesting information about a second source in existence !



Tracklisting :

CD1 :
01. Machines (intro)
02. Tear It Up
03. Tie Your Mother Down
04. Under Pressure
05. somebody To Love - Killer Queen - Seven Seas Of Rhye - Keep Yourself Alive - Liar
06. Improvisation
07. It's A Hard Life
08. Staying Power
09. Dragon Attack
10. Now I'm Here
11. Is This The World We Created
12. Love Of My Life

CD2 :
01. Stone Cold Crazy
02. Great King Rat
03. Machines (keyboard improvisation)
04. Guitar solo - Brighton Rock (ending)
05. Hammer To Fall
06. Another One Bites The Dust
07. Not Fade Away
08. Crazy Little Thing Called Love
09. Bohemian Rhapsody
10. Radio Ga Ga
11. I Want To Break Free
12. Jailhouse Rock
13. We Will Rock You
14. We Are The Champions
15. God Save The Queen
 

Artwork and various logs included.

Links are here :

Artwork, info.txt and freq analysis :
http://rapidshare.com/files/232062187/NOT_FADE_AWAY_-_artwork__info_and_freq_analysis.rar

CD1 :
http://rapidshare.com/files/231462538/NOT_FADE_AWAY_-_CD1.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/231669768/NOT_FADE_AWAY_-_CD1.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/231890598/NOT_FADE_AWAY_-_CD1.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/231896179/NOT_FADE_AWAY_-_CD1.part4.rar

CD2 :
http://rapidshare.com/files/231995415/NOT_FADE_AWAY_-_CD2.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/232018480/NOT_FADE_AWAY_-_CD2.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/232049544/NOT_FADE_AWAY_-_CD2.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/232057865/NOT_FADE_AWAY_-_CD2.part4.rar



Regards,

Olivier,
Belgium.





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Thanks a lot.
I have re-uploaded the recent version a few times, so it's nice to see a better one (I hope).
Just made the links clickable[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img]








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Posted: 12 May 09, 10:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for sharing this one :)
It's nice to see some better versions here on queenzone.

greetings


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Posted: 12 May 09, 13:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much!!

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Posted: 12 May 09, 13:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img]  Nice one.



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Posted: 12 May 09, 13:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you.

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Posted: 12 May 09, 14:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

you beat me to it dear Olivier! haha

thanks for saving me the time from uploading this myself =P


cheers, mate!


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Posted: 12 May 09, 14:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



ruth.olivier wrote:

Hi everyone !

As this one was just previously shared in the gigantic torrent for year 1984, but with unknown lineage and some Sector Boundaries Errors (SBE), here is my copy, directly from the silvers : no SBE's + a clear lineage, direct from the silvers, that should replace the version shared previously.



Olivier, is there any chance you could post the ffp's from this version? I already have a version of (supposedly) Not Fade Away so it would be great to double-check. Thanks!




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Posted: 12 May 09, 15:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks!

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Posted: 12 May 09, 15:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Sure ! But note I never shared my own silvers (don't know if it changes the ffp's if it comes from another silver or if the files are renamed for example).

Here are ffp's for CD1 :


01. Machines (intro).flac:64de1c72ad8050a8aa54cb11762af810
02. Tear It Up.flac:861fa6d195de7fcd0acd653ec96abb60
03. Tie Your Mother Down.flac:2cbe04c16a9de71000139ec047443d11
04. Under Pressure.flac:a4bb5ad84c2ee5d57b03da1fc4c88778
05. Somebody To Love - Killer Queen - Seven Seas Of Rhye - Keep Yourself Alive - Liar.flac:b4b64bf4f1f4e068cd4d8aedba9ded00
06. Improvisation.flac:62d6bd039ece96ccd7955a946bdf722e
07. It's A Hard Life.flac:3fd7a0a705e5a7725542e3d263b4245c
08. Staying Power.flac:282a004e1dc9ad190141b66370110ad9
09. Dragon Attack.flac:a430cfcf153564b81ef2f9dee9cdcc90
10. Now I'm Here.flac:6a9e0d4079f4fc50f244da003664bb8f
11. Is This The World We Created.flac:deb50bc8f7d10c2772709536f4363777
12. Love Of My Life.flac:a243d0c223bb87601c5de98f9803028b
No errors occured.


And for CD2 :

01. Stone Cold Crazy.flac:26d9ad51fe5e33a3d319babaad67691c
02. Great King Rat.flac:163d1436b794ff469f128fcc8f72bacc
03. Machines (keyboard improvisation).flac:7f21ab3dd22e077ef18e4e75308ddf29
04. Guitar solo - Brighton Rock (ending).flac:7610d8094a428e747495e83690a8420a
05. Hammer To Fall.flac:6d363220a20a603951e8e05c4a698c60
06. Another One Bites The Dust.flac:67a9372a572ab8ec3e83d6d893cb164f
07. Not Fade Away.flac:614a1fb1e03508078ce370d6c68db521
08. Crazy Little Thing Called Love.flac:323818b3b90450259ad570ceda19241c
09. Bohemian Rhapsody.flac:1ad5147b3904383d5318da9b8e61178e
10. Radio Ga Ga.flac:7f87f8cd855b52fa635ac42453d4bbe6
11. I Want To Break Free.flac:fd8f409e5bc257372b37ecfd5756ca8a
12. Jailhouse Rock.flac:989c47693bc41b33cff437ddde1d0c79
13. We Will Rock You.flac:ca094878a50ea9f8ac90e8468abf53f9
14. We Are The Champions.flac:ea34ce800ab85b2cc6b2bac925c4c3a7
15. God Save The Queen.flac:725fa45f51df25d018f4ec6085f4b2a9
No errors occured.


Please note that I don't really understand what really are those ffp and md5 things. I know why it is used for (to compare two files, to cut short), but I don't know that much, so don't create ffp or md5 usually.
Is there a kind soul who can explain a little further that thing ? If files are renamed, does it change the md5 files and so on... ? Always good to have some more technical knowledge !


Regards,

Olivier,
Belgium.




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Posted: 12 May 09, 16:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Merci beaucoup Olivier!

The fact of renaming files don't change the ffp (flac fingerprint) as it is still the same file. Like you; you can change your name to avoid paying taxation e.g. your fingerprint will always be the same.


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Posted: 12 May 09, 17:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for this, Olivier!  This has got to be better than the one I've had hanging around for years :)

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Posted: 12 May 09, 18:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote







ruth.olivier wrote:





Sure ! But note I never shared my own silvers (don't know if it changes the ffp's if it comes from another silver or if the files are renamed for example).

Please note that I don't really understand what really are those ffp and md5 things. I know why it is used for (to compare two files, to cut short), but I don't know that much, so don't create ffp or md5 usually.
Is there a kind soul who can explain a little further that thing ? If files are renamed, does it change the md5 files and so on... ? Always good to have some more technical knowledge !



Sure. MD5 is an algorithm which takes an arbitrary set of data and produces an (almost) unique code to represent that data. It used to be thought that it was impossible for two different sets of data to produce the same code but it was recently proved that it can happen in extremely rare circumstances.

However it's good enough for our purposes! For us what it means is that we can take a flac file and create an MD5 checksum for that file. If I share the file with you and give you my MD5 checksum, you can then generate your own checksum and if it matches then you know the file did not get corrupted. You can also use it to identify unknown recordings, which is nice, because two rips of the same CD or rips of two identical CDs *should* generate identical MD5s.

Now it gets more complicated with FFP (flac fingerprints). A flac file consists of two parts - the first part is the header and this contains all the metadata about the file - basically info about the file - the second part contains all the audio data. Now whereas an MD5 fingerprint relates to the whole file, the FFP just relates to the audio data. So you could have two completely different files with different file tags but as long as they contain exactly the same audio data they will produce identical FFPs... at least that's the theory! And that's really useful because if I share a file with you and give you the MD5 checksum, if you then go and tag the file with the artist, track name etc, it will then produce a different MD5 but the FFP will stay the same because the audio data didn't change. And after all, that's all we really care about.

Anyway - your ffps are different from mine so that means that somebody fiddled with the copy of Not Fade Away that mine came from. Good to know because now I'll download yours and get an exact copy of the silvers.

Thanks!






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Posted: 12 May 09, 21:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you Olivier to have satisfied this request, you're very kind.

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Posted: 12 May 09, 22:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes..!! Thank You Very Very Much for this one Olivier !!


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Posted: 13 May 09, 02:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks Tim and Daffy, useful and clear information... Now I know I can start adding ffp files to all my shares... Now I know what it is used for and why it can be important ! For some concerts we got so many versions circulating that it becomes hard to understand, which one comes from which version, is it a different version from mine, and so on...
So now we know that the version shared before was different. And as this was not caused by SBE errors on the silvers being corrected (that would change the ffp, right ?), it means that someone played with the sound somewhere along the line, or grabbed it with 2 seconds gap between tracks and that was corrected later, or changed the track length, or made it lossy, lost some data along the way... Maybe tried to remaster it, should worth a comparison maybe, can sound better, who knows !


Regards,

Olivier,
Belgium.



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Posted: 29 May 09, 10:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you very much!


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Posted: 30 May 09, 14:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is Great King Rat the full song or a snippet?


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Posted: 30 May 09, 17:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's not the full song. It's like the other concert in 1984 (about one minute long).