Pim Derks wrote:
I wonder why John S. Stuart kept insisting that Celebration was on a Strange Frontier acetate then...?
Good spot Barbara.
I just downloaded the 'Moss Cross album', and for me too, this creates more questions than answers, but here is all the information I have at hand. I would be very interested in reading any other thoughts or opinions. (Are you there Clayton?). First
: Here is the track listing from “Strange Frontier
” acetates purchased around 1986.
(That’s two years before
the debut 1986 Cross album – and two years after
the 1984 release of “Strange Frontier
Although the tracks below are conveniently listed in the same running order as the official LP, the actual banding (track order) is different, (I will have to play the disc to recall the acetate running order) and while some tracks are identical to the released version, other tracks like - “Strange Frontier”
have alternative mixes – which I have not found elsewhere.
Roger Taylor: Strange Frontier
(From the released LP sleeve notes) Abandon Fire
composed by Roger Taylor & David Richards It's An Illusion
composed by Roger Taylor & Rick Parfitt Racing In The Streets
composed by Bruce Springsteen Masters Of War
composed by Bob Dylan
John Deacon & Rick Parfitt on It's An Illusion
Freddie Mercury on Killing Time Strange Frontier
Acetate Studio Master 4:07 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc Beautiful Dreams
Acetate Studio Master 4:16 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc Man On Fire
(Edited by JSS: NOT
on acetate) Racing In The Street
Acetate Studio Master 4:17 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc Masters Of War
Acetate Studio Master 3:40 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc Killing Time
(Edited by JSS: NOT
on acetate) Abandon Fire
(Edited by JSS: NOT
on acetate) Young Love
Acetate Studio Master 3:16 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc It's An Illusion
Acetate Studio Master 4:00 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc I Cry For You
Acetate Studio Master 4:06 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc Two Sharp Pencils
Acetate Studio Master 3:19 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc
Acetate Studio Master Fast 2:52 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc Keep On Running
Acetate Studio Master 2:58 Unreleased: Home Mini Disc I Want To Take You Higher
Acetate Studio Master 3:19 Unreleased: Home Mini Disc Celebration
Acetate Studio Master 5:11 Unreleased: Home Mini Disc I Can't Get You Out Of My Head
Acetate Studio Master 3:36 Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
I Can Take You Higher
Acetate Studio Master (“40 End Edit) Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
We know two tracks on the album were cover versions: Bruce Springsteen's "Racing In The Streets"
, and Bob Dylan's "Masters of War
", while another cover, Spencer Davis' "Keep On Running"
was also recorded, but not released.
Why then, is it unlikely that further cover/collaborative material could have been worked on?
I honestly do not know who wrote "I Can’t Get You Out Of My Head"
, “I Can Take You Higher”
therefore, I have never argued that they were original Roger Taylor compositions. All I have argued is that versions exist from the 1984 “Strange Frontier”
sessions, and we all have the (demo) evidence to support this.
The fact in itself that they were not
written by Roger (as we have already seen) does not
demonstrate versions of these tracks were not kicking around earlier – or that they were not ‘conceived’ during the time of the "Strange Frontier
So for me the real question is not who
- but when
they were originally recorded? Second
: After listening to the ‘demo’ version against the ‘downloaded', version – they do sound like two different takes – if not completely different tracks. So, which came first?
Are these downloads 'genuine' Cross demos – as ‘covered’ by Roger Taylor – or are these downloads ‘modern Moss remixes’ (or remakes) even if based on original tapes?
Certainly the Roger Taylor versions sound more ‘demoish’, and the downloads more contemporary, but this may be due to to the download's better/higher sound quality - rather than age. The truth is - I do not know.
Perhaps “I Can’t Get You Out Of My Head
” is one of those crossover songs. (i.e: late Roger Taylor – but early Cross). The same can be said of “Killing Time”
, and “Heaven For Everyone”
which (as we all know were Roger Taylor/Queen crossovers).
Nevertheless, The fact remains, a version of this track was available a full two years before any release - and that is as much a mystery to me as it is to everyone else. Finally
: This is the first time I have heard a studio (rather than live) version of "Let's Get Drunk',
and I think the first non-Roger vocals of "Penetration Guru".
They are nice to compare against the released versions - but are we sure these are genuine demos - rather than Clayton Moss covers or make-overs?
"Listen to them. Children of the night. What music they make."