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Posted: 18 May 09, 19:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Take Good care of what you´ve got Brians father said to him
isn´t it poetic that Paul plans to knob off with his band
Bad Company !!!!!!
there will be many a life long Queen fan in their thirties and forties saying
good riddance to bad rubbish
Sorry Paul, you may have been a smashing bloke (?) but good enough to replace the charisma, voice and artistic imput of Freddie ?????
Come on , you can´t be serious !!!!!
(or maybe no one ever was !!!!!)
whadyall think ?????



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Posted: 18 May 09, 19:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I won´t beg him to come back.


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Posted: 19 May 09, 00:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it's a shame we didn't get better music out of them.  I had faith that Brian might've rescued a 2nd album with a couple of good songs.

On the other hand, I'm glad he's gone.  Sick of his aimless blues trills and the way he pronounces 'through' the night.  When he says it it's more like threeeeuuuuuuuu....

Really shits me.

I stand by "Some Things That Glitter" though, there were Queen moments in there; you would cheat yourself by wishing to think otherwise.


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Posted: 19 May 09, 04:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it's really sad

the live shows were superb, and I thought the album was rock solid as well

I think a second album would have been a better product. Brian only writing 3 songs means he must have spent little time on QPR and much time on astronomy / t.r williams

also- name one major group whose debut album is their finest album?

had they stuck to it - I'm sure they would have produced some more great music.

and I love Paul. he did the songs his own way and managed to NOT sound like a second rate Freddie Mercury

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Posted: 19 May 09, 04:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree "some things that glitter" is a very good song, but the album as a whole was boring, and the second tour was also boring.  Time to move on,  Paul and queen wern't a good fit..... Surf's up....Queens out!

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Posted: 19 May 09, 06:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My own opinion:
What would we have had if Queen had not recruited PR , i loved the fact that i got to see Queen Live again after last seeing them in 86 at knebworth.
The MEN show was a highlight of my year , the DVD shared on here Live in Chile was awesome , seeing Las Palabras des amour Live was again awesome.
Live in Argentina again shared on here.
Okay i was not a PR fan and admit i have criticised but looking back now at what they achieved(now they have called it a day) i now realise how good it was.
IF the biggest Rapper in the USA can manage to listen to Queen +PR and use a sample (i must admit i downloaded it immediately yesterday when i found out !!) then thats good enough for me.
Thanks PR and i do hope we have not seen the last of you.
On that not i will go off and enjoy Super live in Japan 5.1 HD I recommend it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(+a nice cold Stella)






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Posted: 19 May 09, 12:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


On the other hand, I'm glad he's gone.  Sick of his aimless blues trills and the way he pronounces 'through' the night.  When he says it it's more like threeeeuuuuuuuu....

Really shits me.

Ha ha - spot on!!!



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Posted: 19 May 09, 14:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Zebonka12 wrote:

I think it's a shame we didn't get better music out of them.  I had faith that Brian might've rescued a 2nd album with a couple of good songs.

On the other hand, I'm glad he's gone.  Sick of his aimless blues trills and the way he pronounces 'through' the night.  When he says it it's more like threeeeuuuuuuuu....

Really shits me.

I stand by "Some Things That Glitter" though, there were Queen moments in there; you would cheat yourself by wishing to think otherwise.



I liked Some Things That Glitter, there are Queen-y bits, but it has to be noted that there is also a distinct nasal twang on some of the slow bits.  On the other hand... not as unpleasant as I would sing it, so maybe I should keep my mouth shut!
There were definate Queen moments on several songs, but Queen and blues don't go together.  But I'm still so sad that the chance of another tour is virtually nil, so I will probably never hear them, and i'd listen to far more nasal, twangy, bluesy trilling for the chance to hear them.



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Posted: 19 May 09, 15:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I liked every single song on the album (though I could live without Surf's Up...School's Out and Small reprise)

Paul Rodgers is a great live singer (better than most you'd probably find these days)

If they do get another singer, then I think they should get Gary Wright.  I love his vocals and his songwriting.  He's very underrated.  (if you are interested in hearing some Gary Wright, I suggest the song Who I Am)

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Posted: 19 May 09, 18:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Without the collaboration of Q+PR most of the younger (e.g. aged 35...30 and minus) fans would perhaps never had the chance to see BM + RT back live on stage together with that phenomenal Queen sound which we all just knew from the DVDs and Videos.

It was a business job which they have done - there was never the intension to replace FM or to re-new and re-form Queen in any way. It was a collaboration for the fun and joy for music. Somebody had to sing and for a certain time PR fitted the idea which BM + RT had + vise versa and I suppose it was at first to play live music (again).

That`s what they did - they played live and it was good.
They gave us memories and perhaps the only thing they can be blamed for was making the "if-thoughts" only more melancholy.
The "If Freddie might still be there...how would it have been? How could they have sounded with Freddie in 2005 or 2008?" thoughts and theories.

I was very p***** of many discussions made concerning Q+PR on the internet and on Queen forums around the world only because of using the name Queen.
I was very p***** that many fans went to the concerts, bought all the QPR stuff and finally s*** all over everything which came out in the end.

I don`t know how high the expections of many people were, but they must have been VERY high.

I was happy to see them live and everything else was a bonus - a different one, but a bonus.
Sounds naive for most of the hardcore fans, but that`s what it was - simple and easy to explain.

I was very aware that the ideal for which in my opinion FM and Queen stands for cannot be reached but I was suprised how much I enjoyed the live shows. The album is another thing. It is different and not Queen. It`s the result of the collaboration. It`s a fine album for that short term collaboration. We don`t know if Queen might still exist in these days if FM hadn`t died and if JD hadn`t gone on a long holiday. We don`t know how they would sound in 2009.

In the end - it`s over - nothing to say about that. Two business partners have split up.
I think the Queen fan base was hit heavily due to that collaboration and the different opinions about this project. The negative things stay - the positive things do hide behind, right?
This project was yet another chapter in the history of Queen and we shall leave it there.

New things might come up and new discussions can be made and hopefully the fans remind themselves of the reasons why the actually like Queen ;-).












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Posted: 19 May 09, 20:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Very nice try, and Paul is a great singer. But you can't front Queen and hope not to be compared to what they were. Queen were magic - Q+PR wasn't.

I wish Brian and Roger would try to do something without the Queen name. Weren't they going to do something with a couple of guys from Yes a long time ago? Anyway, the Queen name may result in a lot of money, but it also carries a massive responsibility and legacy.

If they had called themselves The Squids, would we feel differently? Maybe...

But trying to live up to Queen is as impossible as trying to live up to the Beatles - even with the same players, recreating the magic is a daunting task.

Best wishes to Paul - great singer and good frontman. A Bad Company reunion should do well in the States.


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Posted: 19 May 09, 22:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



So What Do We REALLY think about PR Leaving Queen?


I actually think this is a really good question!


The first thing I thought about was my first reactions when I'd heard the Cosmos Rocks album. And I thought it was fun to hear some new music from Brian May and Roger Taylor and it didn't mean anything who the vocalist was, as long as it wasn't Freddie. I don't like the album all that much because Freddie Mercury was a huge part of Queen, but at least it's fresh and it's got a couple of Queen elements.

I'm not going to complain if May & Taylor make some more music with another vocalist. I think...

PS! I'm going to bed now : )

PPS! I don't understand why May & Taylor didn't sing sang sung on the album. I think Drowse is one of Queen's best songs, and I really like '39 and Loser in the End. ...and Fight from the Inside... Good night!






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Posted: 20 May 09, 03:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What do I REALLY think about PR leaving Queen?

Is there REALLY anything to think about?






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Posted: 20 May 09, 09:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What I really think....


I think this officially kills any chance of Roger and Brian ever touring again; with or without any frontman. 






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Posted: 20 May 09, 10:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think its a shame they never got to develop their own sound but the odds were always against them. Some of Cosmos Rocks I really like but there is a lot of filler and some downright terrible songs on there too. Brian's Another World had more of the Queen sound than Cosmos Rocks but I still applaud them for trying something new. I just hope we don't return to the post Made In Heaven days of remixes of past hits and guest appearances by boy bands. Dark days indeed.

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Posted: 20 May 09, 11:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Perhaps you should look at it a different way.

Paul Rodgers sure looks to be in more "touring form" than Brian and Roger and the spares they put together in this recent band.

Brian still poses the same way he did back on the 82 tour.  The solo is the same delay-pedal madness that we're used to.  Roger continues to just add more gate to the snare drum.  We all love these guys and enjoy watching them play, but it's not something we haven't seen before.

If someone of 'Freddie's calibur' were to come along, I think he'd pass on the old guys and try something fresh.

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Posted: 20 May 09, 20:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Micrówave wrote:

Perhaps you should look at it a different way.

Paul Rodgers sure looks to be in more "touring form" than Brian and Roger and the spares they put together in this recent band.

Brian still poses the same way he did back on the 82 tour.  The solo is the same delay-pedal madness that we're used to.  Roger continues to just add more gate to the snare drum.  We all love these guys and enjoy watching them play, but it's not something we haven't seen before.

If someone of 'Freddie's calibur' were to come along, I think he'd pass on the old guys and try something fresh.

Damn - you're right.







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Posted: 24 May 09, 12:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree with that last statement in bucketloads. they are the old band, set up as a new band, doing the same old things.  As a result, imho of course, they seem to only play to the converted which must be very frustrating. Sebastian said that they should have renamed the band something else and i agree, it would have allowed them to be viewed as something else and been able to gain new fans and touch different people and also not have that huge wave of expectation on their shoulders.  The comos was always going to be reviewed badly once its stacked up with their own back catalogue.  Of course they wouldnt be able to play arenas which is probably the point. I mean, why would you want to slum it again. Now the new stuff is okay (depending on your opinion) but lets face it, live, everyone would rather hear we will rock you, bo rap and somebody to love.  Their greatest hits are so popular now it really doesnt even matter who sings or plays the songs anymore. I think they were in danger of becoming their own tribute band. Or maybe they did i dont know.  Even the songs that they chose to do on their tours seemed to be the most popular ones.But saying that, they both love to tour, they love the adulation and more importantly it keeps them happy which we all deserve so...............

Oh yeah the question.  i think its a good thing really.  

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Posted: 24 May 09, 19:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it´s sad in a way. Queen+Paul Rodgers has had their time i think, and that´s too bad, cause I kinda liked it. Well, better than nothing right? I wish Paul good luck with BC or whatever the hell he´s going to do. Anyone know if there is some grudges that might have passed us by? Was it really Paul leaving Queen and not the other way around?

Everyone seems so anxious about a new greatest hits, single box set or a 70´s dvd.

I WANT NEW MATERIAL!

Either solo stuff or as "Queen" but now I definitly think it´s time to leave the name Queen to rest. As in other threads, I´d hate to see Brian and Roger turn desperate and hire a new singer right away. I think they should focus on writing new and hopefully "harder" material and then see what happens...IF, they still want to of course. Otherwise I think they should call John and get together for a cup of tea and reminess about the good old days.


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Posted: 26 May 09, 20:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi,

So what do we really think about PR (Paul Rodgers) leaving Queen is the question....here's my answer.

Had there been a North American tour, Paul would've stuck around, plain and simple.

Blame the record company all you want for bad promotion but the fact is, the album (cd) "The Cosmos Rocks" did quite well with a: me, b:  I write that for although I lack PROOF, it's as if "Through The Night" was written with my song "All Through The Night" in mind, (another discussion for another time).

It's a shame, for I too think another QPR release (not just another live album) would've done well, remember Queen, the 1st release didn't do well either.


No matter who sings for Queen, with Queen, as a member or another Queen + (insert name here please) there'll always be "nobody better than Freddie" but then again, Queen + Paul Rodgers was an effort to be a relatively new band.

So what do I think?  The Bad Company reunion with Paul and the 10 dates they have in the USA could've been the QPR Cosmos Rocks tour in the states, plain and simple.


I think they should've hired QueenZone to do the marketing, seriously!


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