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Posted: 15 Jun 09, 14:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Once upon a time

In a far far away land , a land of Plenty,
there was a rumour that somebody had taken the  stereo line out feeds ,that feed certain Powered monitors..
and in those powered monitors, there Lay an old and frail recording tape machine whose only aim in life was
to capture pure Rawness in music..
Myth or Fact???  whats your story how did YOU get your recordings[img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img]


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Posted: 15 Jun 09, 15:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sneak recording gear into the venue, set the levels, press record and there you go.

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Posted: 15 Jun 09, 16:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ditto to Ducksoup.....and then trade your recording to someone who had a different recording so that you all had more recordings.


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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 05:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Was carrying tape recorders to concerts allowed in the 70s/80s? or was the security just lax?

I have seen a Queen concert video in which a guy is very close to the stage and is holding a tape recorder high up. I mean he was making no attempt to hide it. Can't recall which concert, though. But I remember this question crossing my mind then too.

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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 06:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

At the time security was more concerned with drugs and alcohol.  I was stopped a few times in the 100 or so that I brought equipment in.  I didn't walk in with it out in the open, but certainly would be found in the frisks that they do today, which weren't done back then.  If I was stopped, I would give them my batteries so I wouldn't have to give up my recorder.....and then break out the extra batteries that I had in my socks. (but I rarely had to do that).  The toughest thing in my mind, was enjoying the show while trying to pay attention to the time to try to get a smooth, fast tape flip in order to not lose too much show.


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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 07:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Great topic.

In my younger days I never taped my concerts but bought a few from the usual disreputable sources and then swapped, swapped, swapped. It's a pity Noel (younger people will know him from Deal or no Deal fame) Edmonds didn't allow bootleg trading on Swap Shop.

I knew a guy who whenever a rock band was playing the Glasgow Apollo would tape the concert - he couldn't afford tickets for all the groups- from the alley outside. He used to get brilliant recordings but it was a bummer for him when somebody passed by or nipped in for a piss.

Nowadays the trend for taping snippets on mobile phones and posting on you tube is very prevalent. Quite like this as it gives an indication of what the concert was like but I rarely (confession time, only two or three times, honest your honour) do this as I prefer watching the gig without worrying about having a shoddy shaky video shot.

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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 07:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've taped one show in my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jygN2EOe00


The conditions for entry to the gig were pretty clear: basic cameras were allowed, but no professional equipment. Considering the video I took was with a $300 camera, I can understand their reasons for not letting in the expensive stuff.


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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 08:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Tried to record the Milton keynes gig on my old tape recorder - it was so big I had to buy a ticket for it. Unfortunately I ran out of coal halfway through NOW I¨M HERE.


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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 09:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Zebonka12 wrote:

I've taped one show in my life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jygN2EOe00


The conditions for entry to the gig were pretty clear: basic cameras were allowed, but no professional equipment. Considering the video I took was with a $300 camera, I can understand their reasons for not letting in the expensive stuff.



And it's not even Queen related.
Shame on you Zebonka!

Hey. Are you the scray guy with the long hair?
He looks like a 60's rock star!





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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 11:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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I knew a guy who whenever a rock band was playing the Glasgow Apollo would tape the concert - he couldn't afford tickets for all the groups- from the alley outside. He used to get brilliant recordings but it was a bummer for him when somebody passed by or nipped in for a piss.



Was that in the seventies? I know a rockband who played great shows at the Apollo :-)







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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 13:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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Tried to record the Milton keynes gig on my old tape recorder - it was so big I had to buy a ticket for it. Unfortunately I ran out of coal halfway through NOW I¨M HERE.


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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 13:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

zebonka.how did you manage to get a 45min,video on youtube.thought the limit was 10 mins.

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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 13:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



david (galashiels) wrote:

zebonka.how did you manage to get a 45min,video on youtube.thought the limit was 10 mins.






I was lucky!


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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 13:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



rschoorl wrote:

At the time security was more concerned with drugs and alcohol.  I was stopped a few times in the 100 or so that I brought equipment in.  I didn't walk in with it out in the open, but certainly would be found in the frisks that they do today, which weren't done back then.  If I was stopped, I would give them my batteries so I wouldn't have to give up my recorder.....and then break out the extra batteries that I had in my socks. (but I rarely had to do that).  The toughest thing in my mind, was enjoying the show while trying to pay attention to the time to try to get a smooth, fast tape flip in order to not lose too much show.

I heard similar stories about taping in the 70's and 80's. Contrary to what some people tend to believe  security wasn't that tight on taping in the 70's and 80's.

If you know what you're doing, these days bringing in the equipment still really isn't a problem. Just be creative. :-)
To Rob: nice to read you taped so many shows..!  







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Posted: 16 Jun 09, 13:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Zebonka12 wrote:

I've taped one show in my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jygN2EOe00


The conditions for entry to the gig were pretty clear: basic cameras were allowed, but no professional equipment. Considering the video I took was with a $300 camera, I can understand their reasons for not letting in the expensive stuff.





Not bad at all for a first video...!
My first one was a lot worse...


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Posted: 17 Jun 09, 01:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ha!  Truth be told it wasn't intended as a bootleg, but as a memento for the 4 of us who went to the show.  I expected that the sound would be totally distorted and useless but it was actually kind of decent.  Makes me wish I'd gotten the whole thing (I got ~80 minutes, like the first 10 songs and then bits of the rest).


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Posted: 17 Jun 09, 05:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote







david (galashiels) wrote:



zebonka.how did you manage to get a 45min,video on youtube.thought the limit was 10 mins.



Hiya David.

The upload limit on youtube is 1 Gigabyte per file at the moment. That LOML video I uploaded last week was 996mb, pretty big for 6 minutes of video. Took nearly 2 hours to upload it.

The playing time of the file is irrelevant as long as it is under 1gig in size.



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Posted: 17 Jun 09, 06:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



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Was that in the seventies? I know a rockband who played great shows at the Apollo :-)



AC/DC













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Posted: 17 Jun 09, 06:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

These days it's easy.

Mic & battery pack in pocket with keys (feels like more keys if frisked).

Recorder down front of trousers (very unlikely to be frisked there, especially when one aims at female security).

Go to toilet, clip mic to shirt, move recorder to pocket, connect up, return to venue, press record once ready.

This does remind me of a frisking story though (!) - as a youth I used to carry a swiss army knife.  One never knew when a passing horse may have a stone in it's hoof, or something - I don't know.  Anyway, I was going into a nightclub I think, and was frisked by a female security person, who felt said knife in my pocket and said "I don't want to know what THAT is!" before letting me through.

This seemed odd, as surely it was exactly what she was supposed to be taking off people?  Unless she thought that my cock was the size of a lipstick, rock solid, and originated closer to my hip than my testicles....



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Posted: 19 Jun 09, 18:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I remember the first show I taped was in Antwerpen on the last tour. I spent a bloody long time finding the arena as the signs on the road in Belgium are not the best ones... Searching for the exit 6 on the motorway, just to find that it jumped from 5 to 7, had to make the whole tour of the city because I took the motorway in the wrong way, things like that... Got a little irritated as I needed time to install my equipment.
I had modified my shirt at home during the previous weeks, basically I sewed pockets in it, on the inside. one on each side so I could connect the recorder and the battery, one in each side. The new pockets were exactly on the same place than the original ones on the outside, so it was impossible to see that. And I was able to control the equipment anytime.
Then I packed all the equipment (recorder, battery, external mics, every cable need) in plastic, added an adhesive on every packet, and went to pee before the show in the cafe just in front. I remember that I took some good 10 minutes to install all that in my pants, and went out of the loos feeling quite powerful, you know, the real man !!! I took a breath, tried to walk without people thinking that I forgot to drop out the pants and that I crapped myself... I got out of the loos, trying not to walk like a duck, finding that quite uncomfortable, while a long queue of hard drinkers looked at me clearly saying with their eyes that they were there for a long time...
Then I walked into the hall, very simply, not a single look to my pants, which I took quite large, trying to find a good place, quite hidden in the audience. I installed myself, ask my wife to get closer to me, put the hands in my pants and showed her my equipment... Then I opened my shirt (don't get that hot, this is not an adult forum !), installed the equipment and wires, with the two mikes clipped on the collar. I pressed "record", just some few minutes or seconds before the show actually began.
When the show stopped, the security was nowhere, as I said before, you could have brought your caravan in without any problem !

In Paris, the second show I taped, my wife could not come with me, but I met our dear Daffy who came with me to the show. In the cafe, before the show, same story again, but I was worry because the security seemed tighter. I was right, but they saw nothing and I entered the hall just like in Antwerpen. We found a place nearer to the stage (just in front of a security guy); then I went behind Daffy's back and once again searched through my pants (not an adult forum once again !). Hopefully, Daffy was aware of what was happening !! He didn't move so I could install all correctly.
Then a guy next to me, who seemed quite noisy and excited compared to the rest of the (very calm) audience saw me installing the mikes, and showed me to his friend and said to him :"Bootleggers !!". I felt relieved when I heard afterwards that his friend was called Jeroen... I knew he had done the same before me and knew that it was finally good news !!! I spent a part of the concert somewhat hidden behind Daffy, especially when the security caught a videotaper just five meters from us on the right.
After that, I went to my hotel, listened to my recordings, and thought that finally it was worth it !! I just had regrets that all that had not taken place 25 years before...


Regards,

Olivier,
Belgium.




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